Paulist Christians: Why do you believe Paul's doctrine?

Question

Christ gave many warnings about someone coming after him who would lead his Church astray and about the people in the future following a broad path to the Kingdom that will be false.

Paul did not replace Judas and he was a self-proclaimed apostle that all the Christ churches of his day rejected. He was a Roman citizen who pleaded to Cesar for his life and he was not a martyr. He preached against what Christ had taught and he told the gentiles they did not have to follow God's laws. He never knew Jesus, never met him, never saw/heard him; he simply claimed to have had a vision and was converted. Everything he did and said was not as Christ had taught; especially as Jesus respected all women as his Sisters and Mother and always had women with him and at every occasion when men were not present (even his resurrection) yet Paul said many things against women that are nothing like the way Christ regarded them. All in all there is so much to support that Paul was false and the original corrupter of the true Christian faith that Rome adopted as the State religion. You'll find tons of supporting evidence with Bible quotations online if you search for Paul being the false apostle.

So why do you support and believe Paulist Christianity, which was never endorsed by Christ in prophesy? I'd really like you to search your mind and heart and think why it is - could it simply be that it's because your church tells you to do so? Perhaps it is wrong to do so. Perhaps Paul was false and corrupted the faith? For your soul's sake please think about that - because there is nothing in the entire Bible to foretell his coming to lead the religion, or to change it in a good way; there is only prophesy that the original Christ faith would be led astray along with the majority of its followers. Please read your Bibles and you will see the truth.

Now please tell me why you follow the Paulist version of Christianity? Thank you.

Answer 1

Peter said of Paul "There are some things in them that are hard to understand, which the ignorant and unstable twist to their own destruction, as they do the other Scriptures."



The problem with much of Christianity is looks to Paul's writings as the basis for its faith WITHOUT understanding the BASICS of what YHWH wants from us! Yahushua, who many falsely call "Jesus," said "Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to correctly do them. For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. Therefore anyone who sets aside one of the least of these commands and teaches others accordingly will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven. For I tell you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the Pharisees and the teachers of the law, you will certainly not enter the kingdom of heaven. (Matthew 5:17-20"



He also said "Mathew 7:21 “Not everyone who says to Me, 'Master, Master,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father who is in heaven will enter. 22 Many will say to Me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name cast out demons, and in Your name perform many [n]miracles?’ 23 And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; DEPART FROM ME, YOU WHO PRACTICE LAWLESSNESS.’



Those are the BASICS. A new believer should be spending their time learning the TORAH of YHWH, and hold to the testimony of Yahushua. Instead, "Christianity" spends the bulk of its time explaining those "difficult" passages of Sha'ul (Paul's REAL name) and get mixed up to it OWN destruction!



Repent! Turn to the Messiah Yahushua, let his teaching be the basis for your action and beliefs as he points you to his father, YaHuWaH! Don't be one he turns away as a worker of LAWLESSNESS!!



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Answer 2

It is readily apparent that you have never read the Bible accounts nor any writings of Paul or the other disciples of Jesus. Had you done so, you would have seen complete agreement with the rest of the Bible books. Also the acceptance by all of the 1st century Christians, including those of the Governing Body in Jerusalem, of Paul as being chosen by Jesus himself.

Answer 3

Paul was approved by the other apostles, including St Peter, whom Jesus had given authority to lead the church upon earth [Matt 16:17-19]. I think that counts as a fairly good reason to accept Paul as a valid apostle.



See Galatians chapter 2.

Answer 4

Paul persecuted the Church horribly UNTIL he met Jesus on the road that day. I don't know where you get your information but it is VERY flawed!!! Paul DID hear the voice of Jesus and DID have a radical change in his heart and soul and his life! Paul preached the Gospel everywhere he went and it was in complete agreement with the Gospel and teachings of Jesus!!! Paul WAS a martyr. You need to stop listening to the morons on the internet and read what is in the Bible, study the teachings of Jesus and the teaching of Paul from the Bible and you will see that Paul was RIGHT ON! I believe what the Bible says and NOT the junk on the internet, the Bible is my source and that is where you need to get your facts, instead of the false teachings you obviously believe!

Answer 5

Your question is full of errors and misconceptions. Paul died as a maryr at Rome, he may well have met Christ in his lifetime (there is much speculation on this subject), and Paul strongly believed himself to be preaching the Gospel of Jesus Christ - moreover, the early Church clearly agreed with him.



But what annoys me most is the attempt by some to paint Paul as a sexually-repressed reactionary, while Jesus was some spaced-out hippie. No. Actually read Jesus' words. Many of them are harsh and even violent. He rejects his own family, including his mother. He refers to Gentiles as dogs. He tells his disciples to arm themselves with swords. Much of Jesus' reported speech is bitter and harsh, and full of an urgent sense that the things of the world are passing away.



Paul, by contrast, often comes across as a rather gentle mystic. It is not Jesus but Paul who extols the virtue of love in a highly poetic passage in 1 Corinthians: "If I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, but do not have love, I have become a noisy gong or a clanging cymbal" (1 Cor 13). This is not Paul the legalistic extoller of righteousness. This is Paul the visionary, whose message was one of mystical union with the Christ he worshipped.



Paul was the first and greatest Christian theologian - he assembled the confused accounts of Jesus' life and ministry into a coherent theological system. But it is probably not the case - as many assume - that he personally came up with everything written in the Pauline Epistles. On the contrary, Paul seems to be reflecting beliefs that were already widespread within the Christian community within a decade or two of the crucifixion.

Answer 6

Then why did the other apostles accept him and his teaching.

Why do you destroy the Deity of Christ when you figure that Christs blood on the cross was not sufficient enough for our sins ?

No man is capable of keeping the law. Heaven would be a lonely place if the only way was by works. But since Christ alone is the only way we all have hope

Answer 7

Paul was an apostle of Jesus personally called by the Lord. I see nothing that would indicate anything he wrote in any way contradicts anything else in the new testament.



I would like to say that it is satan who desires to discredit the writings of Paul. Why? He gave us much of the new testament. If I were you, I'd be very careful whose side I'm taking on this issue.

Answer 8

Peter considered Paul's writings to be inspired of God:



2 Peter 3:15-16 "And count the patience of our Lord as salvation, just as our beloved brother Paul also wrote to you according to the wisdom given him, (16) as he does in all his letters when he speaks in them of these matters. There are some things in them that are hard to understand, which the ignorant and unstable twist to their own destruction, as they do the other Scriptures."

Answer 9

One of the writers of the Gospel of Jesus Christ was Luke who also knew Mary the mother of Jesus. Luke found Christ through Paul and also wrote Acts the story of where Paul came from. Paul is not false but an Apostle of Jesus Christ. You talk bad of Paul then you talk bad of Jesus Christ. Peter spoke of Paul in his writings and acknowledged him as a brother in Christ. Stop you lies.

Answer 10

No such thing as " Paulist Christians " Either you accept God's word or you do not.

Answer 11

I actually agree with you about paul :-) i just wanted to add to what you said that it dawned on me a while ago about when Yeshua mentioned render unto caesar the things of caesar's and unto God the things of God's...i really believe He was warning us about paul...and paul appealed unto caesar...

Answer 12

why do u surfer urselves like this the bible says test all spirits so test him ask god is he not your father ask the holy spirit to lead you and paul teachings are not away from that of christ only that you look towards the surface undastandin of the bible not the revelational undastandin so ill advise that u read all of pauls books again but this time ask the holy spirit to teach you and guide you

Answer 13

Well, the other apostles vouched for him, for one. He was not a self-proclaimed apostle.



Furthermore, he didn't preach against what Christ taught. You're telling a fib.

Answer 14

Because it is the inspired Word of God.

Answer 15

Now let me guess....yes'..you are muslim

that figures