Question:
How did Scientists come up with the Big Bang Theory?
heyheysg
2009-08-23 08:10:52 UTC
What does a theory mean? Does it mean they just imagine something and claim it to be true?

Where does mathematics or astronomy come into this?

Why do a majority of scientists agree with this theory?

What do you think? and after researching it, do you understand it more?
22 answers:
JLI
2009-08-23 09:36:16 UTC
Q:How did Scientists come up with the Big Bang Theory?

A: One could say it began with Einsteins general theory of relativity. It involves some very complicated mathematics. A possible solution to the equations of this theory is an expanding universe. A catholic priest named Lemaitre. He calculated backwards and came up with the idea of "a big bang". Later on an astronomer (Hubble) observed that the galaxies were moving away (Universe expanding). Several other consequences of Big bang was worked out by various scientists (Background microwave radiation, distribution of atoms), and those have later been verified by observations.



Q: What does a theory mean?

A: In scientific terms a theory is based on observations. Its consequences has to be testable through observations/experimentation. These observations/experiments must be of such a nature, that a specific outcome is inconsistent with the theory.



Q: Why do a majority of scientists agree with this theory?

A: The consequences of the theory has been observed. No inconsistent observations have been made.
anonymous
2009-08-23 08:56:02 UTC
Well, I was disappointed by most of the answers.



First, the hypothesis/theory *was* first proposed by a Roman Catholic monk/scientist named Lemaitre. Look it up and read about it - it's important. He believed that the competing theories were wrong to exclude the possibility of creation as described in Genesis, and so he developed his own theory of how the universe came to be in its present state that

a) fitted all known evidence

b) also agreed entirely with the biblical creation account



It's interesting that at the time the "Steady State Theory" (SST) was the popular theory among physicists. Lemaitre's theory was scornfully and publicly rejected by most physicists of the time, including Einstein. The reasons? First, it was clearly biblically-based. Second: there was no evidence directly supporting the Big Bang Theory (BBT) in favor of the SST. Understand, though: the BBT agreed with the available evidence just as well as did the SST.



When Hubble discovered that pretty much everything in the universe was moving - and moving apart - this shattered the SST and the opposition to the BBT. This is where astronomy and mathematics first came in in a way that put the BBT ahead of all the other theories (there were others than the BBT and SST, of course). Einstein actually had the integrity to publicly apologize for his earlier remarks deriding the BBT. You'll have to look up Hubble's Law if you want to know more about the mathematics and astronomical observations involved (both are part of Hubble's Law).





Regarding theory - a theory is an idea, but it is an idea that scientifically explains some phenomenon (one answer said "an observed fact" - which is close enough). Theories are considered valid as theories, scientifically, if the available evidence does not contradict the theory. A hypothesis is a scientific explanation of a phenomenon that doesn't really have any supporting evidence yet. A hypothesis is just an idea. A theory is an idea that has been tested scientifically to some degree (even if its a very small degree) and found to be a possibly correct explanation of the phenomena. So, normally in science we have 3 stages

* hypothesis - the untested idea that explains some phenomenon

* theory - the idea has been tested at least a little by scientific experiment and agrees with the results

* law - the idea has been proven to be true conclusively. Every prediction made by the theory regarding the nature of the phenomenon has been validated by experimental results



One answer said,

"A theory in science is as close to fact as science will get. "



This is an obviously false statement - though it is true that some scientific theories are not verifiable with our current level of technology. In other words, it is true that many scientific theories are in no apparent danger of becoming anything more than theories.



Another thing that I would like to point out: scientific theories, if both successful and popular, grow many "legs". Take the BBT, for example: all the BBT itself says is that at some point the universe came into being through some sort of explosion. That's it.



Now, give a world of astrophysicists a century to work with that, and all sorts of "additions" are made to the BBT. There's a dozen different theories regarding how long ago this happened, a dozen different theories regarding how it happened, why it happened, what is going to happen, etc. All of these "legs" are (unfortunately) considered to be a "part" of the BBT - even though each and every one of these variations of the BBT has one or several variations with which it competes. So, in other words we have the "basic" theory, and then we have all of the competing variations of the BBT that include the characteristics that I mentioned and many more.



This variations are where most of the heavy-duty math and astrophysics enter. By measuring things like how fast cosmic entities (stars, galaxies, etc.) are moving apart, scientists can estimate how long ago the BB occurred. By estimating how much mass and energy exist in our universe, scientists can estimate things like

* how powerful was the explosion

* will things keep moving apart forever, or is there enough matter in the universe that eventually everything will stop and then fall back in on itself (the Oscillating Universe Theory)

etc. etc.



Yes, a majority of scientists *accept* this general theory - meaning that they think it is more likely to be true than competing theories. (I think that "agree with" is too strong a phrase.) I don't think that any particular variation of the theory has a majority of support from scientists.



Jim, http://www.bible-reviews.com



P.S. A fellow on Y!A with far more knowledge of the origins of the BBT than I had the kindness to correct some of my statements.



First, the scientist who originated the BBT, LeMaitre, employed quite a bit of math to the Theory of Relativity in a way that had not been done before. "...it included a new and unique solution to the equations of General Relativity".



Second, one of the remarkable things included in his theory was a "crude approximation of the Hubble Constant".



In other words, the original BBT included a mathematical basis that was, at the time, unique to the BBT, and explained at least some phenomena that were not as well explained by the SST.



Finally, the word "explosion" was poorly chosen (I hesitated over it when writing, in fact). This user kindly corrected me: the proper word is "expansion".
twoasonesfl
2009-08-23 08:35:50 UTC
Being educated is something you must still be working on, and not very well, either.



Theory, as it applies to science, is the application of a logical process that explains a particular behavior of natural objects, biology, etc..



Gravity is still a theory.



The principles of flight are still theory.



In science a "theory" explains something based on the available evidence.



A rock is thrown into the air and falls back to earth. It does that every time that it is thrown into the air, so we theorize that gravity exists. It remains "theory" until we understand what causes gravity and what it is.



Astronomical objects move in a certain way which shows scientists where the "big bang" occurred and that the universe is, in fact, expanding. It is still called a theory. Not knowing what caused the events that created the big bang is what keeps it a theory.



Theory, as you seem to understand it, is the colloquial, non-scientific, understanding of the word.



They are different for science and general understanding.



In science a theory is what fits all of the available evidence. In the colloquial sense that you understand the word, it means a belief that something happened a certain way and now you must find evidence to either support or deny it.



The two work in opposite directions. Science make theory based on the existing evidence and modifies or eliminates the theory based on new evidence.



Colloquially, the theory is made and evidence is sought to confirm the theory. That is the big problem with Creationism, because they disregard holes in their theory and fill those holes with non-scientific answers that are not demonstrable, thus modifying or eliminating evidence that conflicts with theory.



This is basic grade school stuff. Didn't you pay attention in school?
Jesse
2009-08-23 08:19:36 UTC
The universe is expanding. It therefore follows that, going back in time, the universe shrinks until it reaches a point infinately small.



This type of theory is one that follows all known scientific data. It's not 'claimed to be true' by most, because it's not proven. First we need a quantum theory of gravity to give us our 'theory of everything', IE, explaining all known physics. Once we have that, we can test out the Big Bang theory.



The only way the Big Bang could be wrong is if the Universe was static at a set size for a long time, then suddenly started inflating. This contridicts one of science's most important pillars called "Cause and Effect". It basically states that if nothing affects a system, the system won't change. IE, if I placed a ball on a table, it won't suddenly start moving unless something gives it the energy to move.



Needless to say, the Big Bang has to be true. Everything is explained via Cause and Effect. It's impossible that it's wrong.
Singleeye
2009-08-23 08:45:14 UTC
Man and Scientist and the deep thinkers of the ages, did a study, were they placed 1000's of pounds of explosives in a brick and mortar factory. When they pushed the button for the explosion ,The Big Bang was heard. As the dust settled It was proof that you could create a new 24 story building. The thing that makes this story so unbelievable is that people can believe that an Big Bang brings things together. If this earth was just a chip off the old block and has been hurling through space and its just debris, how did it all just so happen to fall in the right place in the right time and why is the Sun still on fire? This all sounds foolish. Its time to look deeper with in your heart an know there is God.
Scooby
2009-08-23 08:24:19 UTC
Einstein postulated that the Universe it at a standstill but astronomers noticed that galaxies appear to be moving away from us at speeds proportional to their distance. This is called "Hubble's Law," named after Edwin Hubble (1889-1953) who discovered this phenomenon in 1929. This observation supports the expansion of the universe and suggests that the universe was once compacted. This is a constant everywhere in our observable Universe. Even our moon is moving away from us. The problem was to determine why the universe is expanding. If the Universe was once very compacted then it must have also been very hot. If the universe was initially very, very hot we should be able to find some remnant of this heat. In 1965, Radioastronomers Arno Penzias and Robert Wilson discovered a 2.725 degree Kelvin (-454.765 degree Fahrenheit, -270.425 degree Celsius) Cosmic Microwave Background radiation (CMB) which pervades the observable universe. This is thought to be the remnant which scientists were looking for. Penzias and Wilson shared in the 1978 Nobel Prize for Physics for their discovery. There is extensive material on the internet that is available for Research.
Pirate AM™
2009-08-23 08:20:04 UTC
A theory in science is as close to fact as science will get.



Observations in astronomy and physics along with mathematical models support the big bang.



The evidence supports the big bang, so knowledgeable scientists agree with it.



I'm not an expert/professional in that field so what I think carries little weight, however, after researching it I understand it and it seems consistent with the evidence.
anonymous
2009-08-23 08:17:18 UTC
Look at what Lemaitre, the scientist who first proposed it, wrote about it...



He was a very skilled astrophysicist who studied at Cambridge, M.I.T., and Harvard. The evidence people cite as supporting it was MOSTLY theorized based on "Big Bang" and later found to be true, but there IS quite a bit of it, which explains its current scientific support.



A very common misconception of Big Bang is that it claims that the universe "came from nothing." While that could be true on the "space" level (this has to do with the nature of a singularity), it certainly isn't on the matter which composes us and our universe, where Dr. Lemaitre presumed the existence of what he called a "primordial atom," ...which is now routinely called a "primordial black hole."



The theory "breaks the rules" a bit because it is more of a logical extension or conclusion based on Lemaitre's solution of Einstein's General Relativity equations than it is based on observation...



As for its mathematical basis, it is incredibly complex to the point that even many (if not most) mathematicians have trouble understanding it, so I will not try to go there.



Why do scientists think it is correct? Here I'll defer to Albert Einstein...

1. Mr. Einstein was, like many in the scientific community, initially OPPOSED to the theory.

2. Einstein stood and applauded at an event where Lemaitre was presenting a paper. His statement went something like, "This is the most beautiful and satisfactory explanation of creation to which I have ever listened."

Lemaitre had "picked up" Mr. Einstein's work and took it in a direction which it was never intended to go, BUT, it worked!



Here is a little more detail on Lemaitre and the theory:

n 1927, Lemaître published in Belgium a virtually unnoticed paper that provided a compelling solution to the equations of General Relativity for the case of an expanding universe. His solution had, in fact, already been derived without his knowledge by the Russian Alexander Friedmann in 1922. But Friedmann was principally interested in the mathematics of a range of idealized solutions (including expanding and contracting universes) and did not pursue the possibility that one of them might actually describe the physical universe. In contrast, Lemaître attacked the problem of cosmology from a thoroughly physical point of view, and realized that his solution predicted the expansion of the real universe of galaxies that observations were only then beginning to suggest.



By 1930, other cosmologists, including Eddington, Willem de Sitter, and Einstein, had concluded that the static (non-evolving) models of the universe they had worked on for many years were unsatisfactory. Furthermore, Edwin Hubble, using the world’s largest telescope at Mt. Wilson in California, had shown that the distant galaxies all appeared to be receding from us at speeds proportional to their distances. It was at this point that Lemaître drew Eddington’s attention to his earlier work, in which he had derived and explained the relation between the distance and the recession velocity of galaxies. Eddington at once called the attention of other cosmologists to Lemaître’s 1927 paper and arranged for the publication of an English translation. Together with Hubble’s observations, Lemaître’s paper convinced the majority of astronomers that the universe was indeed expanding, and this revolutionized the study of cosmology.

--The source for this is a very good bio on Lemaitre at http://www.amnh.org/education/resources/rfl/web/essaybooks/cosmic/p_lemaitre.html



My answer to why scientists accept is... IT WORKS. That is, after all, what they are supposed to be about.
anonymous
2009-08-23 08:15:51 UTC
Here's the talk origins page on it



Evidence for the big bang:



http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/astronomy/bigbang.html



The mathematics and astronomy are extremely complex, the majority of scientists agree because it is the theory with the most evidence. I have studied the big bang theory (and others), its the best theory.
Darth Eowyn Loves Plinkett
2009-08-23 08:16:37 UTC
A Catholic Priest came up with the Big Bang theory. After that, I am not knowledgeable on the subject.
PROBLEM
2009-08-23 08:15:40 UTC
It was postulated by a Catholic Monk. It was first rejected as too "religious". Up to that time scientists thought the universe was constant. It was the discovery of things like the red shift, etc that proved it a valid theory
anonymous
2009-08-23 08:18:58 UTC
Big Bang Theory explains the creation of the universe very well, you have to study astrophysics.
anonymous
2009-08-23 08:17:50 UTC
In science a theory is an attempt to explain an observed fact, it is not an unfounded idea dreamt up by someone.
Quantifiable love
2009-08-23 08:14:40 UTC
Theory means it's supported by evidence.

Most scientists agree with it because the evidence points towards it.

They came up with it by looking at this evidence, and seeing where it pointed.

All makes sense :D
anonymous
2009-08-23 08:14:55 UTC
By observing the observable universe...??



Because of overwhelming evidences... Microwave Cosmic background
The Happy Atheist
2009-08-23 08:15:42 UTC
They did so over coffee, while watching episodes of, The Simpsons.
A.V.R.
2009-08-23 09:30:13 UTC
http://www.big-bang-theory.com/
God of the Hipsters
2009-08-23 08:15:02 UTC
Ask in the science sections...
anonymous
2009-08-23 08:19:51 UTC
They ate magical pudding.
The Lone Myth
2009-08-23 08:14:48 UTC
Wrong category.



Look up Germ theory.



It may clear things up for you.
AutumnWynd777
2009-08-23 08:36:07 UTC
Any lame brained excuse to deny GOD His Proper Respect , Reverence and Honor. Job 12:10 (Amplified Bible)

10In His hand is the life of every living thing and the breath of all mankind. Revelation 11 (Amplified Bible) 17Exclaiming, To You we give thanks, Lord God Omnipotent, [the One] Who is and [ever] was, for assuming the high sovereignty and the great power that are Yours and for beginning to reign. 1 John 5 (Amplified Bible)

9If we accept [as we do] the testimony of men [if we are willing to take human authority], the testimony of God is greater (of stronger authority), for this is the testimony of God, even the witness which He has borne regarding His Son. 1 John 4 (Amplified Bible)

4Little children, you are of God [you belong to Him] and have [already] defeated and overcome them [the agents of the antichrist], because He Who lives in you is greater (mightier) than he who is in the world.

1 John 3 (Amplified Bible) 20Whenever our hearts in [[a]tormenting] self-accusation make us feel guilty and condemn us. [For [b]we are in God's hands.] For He is above and greater than our consciences (our hearts), and He knows (perceives and understands) everything [nothing is hidden from Him]. Hebrews 13 (Amplified Bible)

20Now may the God of peace [Who is the Author and the Giver of peace], Who brought again from among the dead our Lord Jesus, that great Shepherd of the sheep, by the blood [that sealed, ratified] the everlasting agreement (covenant, testament), 1 Timothy 3 (Amplified Bible) 16And great and important and weighty, we confess, is the hidden truth (the mystic secret) of godliness. He [[a]God] was made visible in human flesh, justified and vindicated in the [Holy] Spirit, was seen by angels, preached among the nations, believed on in the world, [and] taken up in glory. 1 Corinthians 13:13 (Amplified Bible)

13And so faith, hope, love abide [faith--conviction and belief respecting man's relation to God and divine things; hope--joyful and confident expectation of eternal salvation; love--true affection for God and man, growing out of God's love for and in us], these three; but the greatest of these is love. Zechariah 9 (Amplified Bible)

17For how great is God's goodness and how great is His beauty! And how great [He will make Israel's] goodliness and [Israel's] beauty! Grain shall make the young men thrive and fresh wine the maidens.

Joel 2 (Amplified Bible) 11And the Lord utters His voice before His army, for His host is very great, and [they are] strong and powerful who execute [God's] word. For the day of the Lord is great and very terrible, and who can endure it? Daniel 2:45 (Amplified Bible)

45Just as you saw that the Stone was cut out of the mountain without hands and that it broke in pieces the iron, the bronze, the clay, the silver, and the gold, the great God has made known to the king what shall come to pass hereafter. The dream is certain and the interpretation of it is sure. Jeremiah 32:18 (Amplified Bible)

18You Who show loving-kindness to thousands but recompense the iniquity of the fathers into the bosoms of their children after them. The great, the mighty God; the Lord of hosts is His name--
anonymous
2009-08-23 08:13:56 UTC
lemaitre.


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