What's your opinion of the new "Anti-Gay" bill in Uganda?

Question

Here are a few of the draconian provisions put forth:

• Any person alleged to be homosexual would be at risk of life
imprisonment or in some circumstances the death penalty;

• Any parent who does not denounce their lesbian daughter or gay son to
the authorities would face fines of $ 2,650.00 or three years in prison;

• Any teacher who does not report a lesbian or gay pupil to the
authorities within 24 hours would face the same penalties;

• And any landlord or landlady who happens to give housing to a suspected
homosexual would risk 7 years of imprisonment.

• Similarly, the Bill threatens to punish or ruin the reputation of anyone
who works with the gay or lesbian population, such as medical doctors
working on HIV/AIDS, civil society leaders active in the fields of sexual
and reproductive health, hence further undermining public health efforts
to combat the spread of HIV;

• All of the offences covered by the Bill as drafted can be applied to a
Ugandan citizen who allegedly commits them - even outside Uganda!

Answer 1

to the first answerer, it's actually NOT made up.



Here's my opinion: it's absolutely awful. I am not one to condone gays, just because I don't believe in it, but I would never judge them and I don't think of them differently from me. I just personally don't agree with their actions. Anyways, nobody deserves that and gays aren't actually doing anything wrong.



EDIT: I am Christian people. I personally don't agree with being gay because I see it as a choice and not being born that way, I have lots of info to back that up so if anyone is offended feel free to message me. However, I would vote for gay marriage because it is their choice. So please stop stereotyping"Christians" because I'm sure most think this is horrifying as well. You are just as bad as them by saying those things.

Answer 2

Fundamentalist Christianity has already answered you and everyone else. They don't support the bill. It goes too far. It's too extreme. It's un-American. It's evil. It's been said by Fundamental Christians in response to the bill. Most Fundamentalist pastors that I've found are actively denouncing it. Most of the push for this bill seems to be coming from within the country, inspired by some American pastors but not really supported even by those that the bill got inspiration from. I don't know Scott Lively but in doing searches for him he's on record as saying that the bill goes too far, and that they were inspired from his work or encouraged by it, not supported or funded by it. There were accusations that Rick Warren sponsored the bill because an ex-pastor was involved in it (that pastor being IN Uganda) but he's come out saying he didn't sponsor it, doesn't support it, and condemns it. And I can't find anything on Exodus International. Please provide links so I can do a better search? Add: FYI, I'm what people like to lump into Fundamentalist, but as far as I can tell is unconnected to this... disgusting bill.

Answer 3

There were some Christians responsible for that legislation. The influence peddling came from the charity group The Family, also known as The Fellowship, they used private donations to try and influence law to enact a death penalty against homosexuals in Uganda. This should be a crime in the United States! Some politicians from the US are also members of The Family.



From the article in the link below:



Current Elected Officials



* Sen. Sam Brownback, R-Kansas

* Sen. Tom Coburn, R-Okla.

* Sen. Mike Enzi, R-Wy.

* Sen. Chuck Grassley, R-Iowa

* Sen. Jim Inhofe, R-Okla.

* Sen. Bill Nelson, D-Fla.

* Sen. Mark Pryor, D-Ark.

* Rep. Mike McIntyre, D-N.C.

* Rep. Joe Pitts, R-Penn.

* Rep. Heath Shuler, D-N.C.

* Rep. Bart Stupak, D-Mich.

* Rep. Zach Wamp, R-Tenn.

* Rep. Frank Wolf, R-Va.



The Family has members who are law makers in Uganda. It was through these law makers that the bill is being passed. Christians are murdering homosexuals in Uganda because they cannot do it in the United States. What is worse is that no one has been arrested for this in the US! This is an outrage! And Christians wonder why they are despised in all walks of life in all countries!

Answer 4

Uganda's got some pretty bad Christian Terrorist running around too, controlling the north. The Lord's Resistance Army. The national army is not free of human rights abuses either.



But hey, at least it's a "success" story in finding people to take money for abstinence only programs. Thanks Focus on the Family and Bush Whitehouse for all the HIV.

Answer 5

What can I say? It's sick. I thought that the most pitiful state that a government could get in respect to gay rights was by applying the dp to gays. Uganda, however, managed to sink below my expectations and not only consider a dp option, but also a 'witch hunt' option in which the State can not only execute gays, but pretty much put every person who has ever been in contact with said gay person in legal, social, and financial ruin.



Unfortunately, the bill has implications for more countries than Uganda--It is going to create another central African refugee situation; and it seems that areas in that corner of the world have to struggle to pull themselves into stability---only to be pulled back into chaos from the stress of settling refugees. By sending the gays into hiding--under fear of their lives--I imagine Uganda will be doing very little to help itself in terms of the AIDS epidemic, either.

Peace

Answer 6

I would like to take Uganda and punch it in the face. I don't know how you can punch a country in the face, but I will find a way.



Note: the death penalty is being removed from the bill. LGBTs are now going to be sent to "ex-gay" programs. Story here: http://www.365gay.com/news/uganda-to-remove-death-penalty-from-anti-gay-bill/

Answer 7

That is absolutely ridiculous! This is a country that treats homosexuality as a taboo. Even coming from a Christian standpoint that is completely overboard. You are supposed to hate the sin not the sinner!

Answer 8

Anyone who knows me knows that I don't go for conspiracy theories. However what HereticZ is saying is real - there is an American organization known as "The Family" that helped advocate for this legislature in Uganda.

Answer 9

An egregious breach of civil rights legislation which is sure to set global recognition of civil equality back thirty years.

Answer 10

With AIDS running rampant in countries like that, there won't be anyone around to enforce such crap for very long.

Answer 11

This bill is an affront. That certain ultra-conservative Christians have used it to push their agendas is not particularly surprising even though it IS sub-christian.

Answer 12

The very model for why we want to limit government control over our lives.

Answer 13

The whole thing needs to become acquainted with the concept of a firing squad. (I mean the bill, not the people)



Toby - Well aren't you just a little ray of sunshine?

Answer 14

in my opinion it is ignorance bred by propaganda breeding intolerance which will likely contribute 2 the continuation of suffering as a result of brainwashing by the accepted ignorance of a certain religion

Answer 15

Uganda treats them worse than corrupt politicians, thieves, rapists, and murders it seems.



No, I don't support this in any way.



Mel: How is this a Christian thing? I was unaware that Uganda was a strict Christian nation. I guess you are smarter than me.

Answer 16

Seems like they should all "choose" to be straight then...



That was a very un-Christian thing to say, Toby.

Answer 17

Yoweri Museveni is just another ignorant bigot.

Answer 18

The triumph of superstition over reason and knowledge!

Answer 19

Wow. Good old fashioned "witch burnings" alive and well...



Well I guess that's one country politicians can't go to for their closeted shenanigans...

Answer 20

We are moving backward not forward and God help us if they don't speak up and stop this thing it will be on our door steps next this is not Gods way

Answer 21

I can't say that I think much of it, but what is interesting that those who object to it have found a moral absolute which applies absolutely.

Answer 22

Good thing this isn't according to christianity...



that's messed up.

Answer 23

Human rights clearly isn't their thing.

Answer 24

damn people are crazy!!! and people need to learn to mind there own business!

Answer 25

I'm sure christians everywhere are creaming their jeans.

Answer 26

I am not at all for homosexuality, but this is a little harsh.

Answer 27

Those are so crazy, they sound made up...

Answer 28

It's a sad state of affairs, when African legislators have more common sense than the West.



I hope this law goes worldwide.