Does this prove the big bang is a big hoax ?

Question

If the big bang had happened in the popularly accepted time frame, then how could it be that there are quasars and other objects that have been observed at distances so far away from us that they would have had to traveled faster than the speed of light in order to fit into the popularly accepted time frame of the big bang expanding universe ?

Answer 1

It is impossible to see any object that would be traveling that fast, thus your premise about such an object's distance must be wrong. Very high red-shift quasars have been found, from when the universe was less than a billion years old.



The Big Bang Theory is supported by extensive data. Six prominent facts are:



** The red shift of almost all galaxies, getting greater as their distance increases.

— This shows that the galaxies are flying away from each other, at greater speeds at greater distances.

** The cosmic microwave background radiation.

— This is a remnant of the radiation from the Big Bang, and has cooled over time to the exact temperature predicted.

** The variations in the cosmic microwave background radiation.

— These variations fit theoretical predictions, and were caused by quantum differences near the start of Big Bang.

** The proportions of the lightest elements and isotopes.

— This helps show that the calculations for nuclear interactions immediately following the Big Bang are correct.

** The changes in galaxies as we look further away (and thus back in time), with distant galaxies more primitive and having fewer heavy elements.

— This shows some of the changes in the universe since the Big Bang, and confirms the deep time of the universe.

** The change in the apparent speed of type 1a supernova as we look back in time, with distant supernova exploding more slowly.

— This shows that the light has been stretched out by the expansion of space over billions of years.

Answer 2

Even if I accepted that quasars have occured at distances too far away to fit in with the time frame of when the big bang occured all that would mean is a change in time of the big bang. It doesn't denounce the possibility of a big bang happening. Link to support your claim?

Answer 3

No, no, they have that all worked out. First the bang, then the quasars. The popularly accepted model does have a percentage of error. On such distance scales, ten percent plus or minus is not too shabby.

Answer 4

No. Matter cannot travel faster than the speed of light. But the expansion of the Universe is due to the expansion of *space* itself. And that can happen faster than the speed of light. In fact it did, during a short period called Inflation, very shortly after the Big Bang.



As a result the Universe is already far larger than the 13-14 billion light years one would expect.

Answer 5

The answer: they don't. Quasars were at one time (in the very recent past!) used to date the Universe - because they were the most distant objects known. Now there is a different method used (partly because objects more distant than quasars have been detected.)

http://www.physorg.com/news/2011-05-candidate-distant-universe.html



This explains the error of your claims:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_Crisis



If what you said is true, it would not prove that the Big Bang Theory was "a big hoax" or in any way in error. It would - if it were true (and it **used to be**) - prove that the Universe is probably much older than estimates suggest (and that is exactly what was proved with that data).



- Jim, Bach Sci Physics 1989

Answer 6

Because light travels at the speed it does THROUGH SPACE.

But space itself is also expanding, meaning that the most distant objects travel away from us at faster than the speed of light.

Cosmologists talk about a horizon beyond which it will never be able to observe anything, for this reason.

Answer 7

No. Contractions in space-time allow for objects to cover more distance while moving at the speed of light. Under the Big Bang model, you would expect what you're talking about to occur.

Answer 8

In astronomy, superluminal motion is the apparently faster-than-light motion seen in some radio galaxies, quasars and recently also in some galactic sources called microquasars. All of these sources are thought to contain a black hole, responsible for the ejection of mass at high velocities.



When first observed in the early 1980s, superluminal motion was taken to be a piece of evidence against quasars having cosmological distances. Although a few astrophysicists still argue in favor of this view, most believe that apparent velocities greater than the velocity of light are optical illusions and involve no physics incompatible with the theory of special relativity.



Your score: F-

Answer 9

It is commonly understood that for a brief time immediately following the Big Bang, there were particles that moved faster than the speed of light. In fact, the Large Hadron Collider in Bern may have recently produced a particle that did move faster than the speed of light. So the Big Bang remains on solid ground, as it were. You're welcome.

Answer 10

That is the Argument from Personal Incredulity.

= I don't understand how stuff happens..

= therefore GODDIDIT.



DuckPhup: "...it reveals that you presume, for yourself, a form of omniscience... thinking that goes like this: "If this were understandable, then I should be able to understand (or imagine) it.

I do NOT (can not) understand (or imagine) it... therefore it is NOT understandable... and since it is NOT understandable (by me), it logically follows that it cannot be 'true'.

Therefore... God did it."

https://answersrip.com/question/index?qid=20070908054236AAjfrB1



“ARGUMENT FROM CREATION, a.k.a. ARGUMENT FROM PERSONAL INCREDULITY (I)

(1) If evolution is false, then creationism is true, and therefore God exists.

(2) Evolution(and science in general) can't be true, since I lack the mental capacity to understand it; moreover, to accept its truth would cause me to be uncomfortable.

(3) Therefore, God exists.”



Hundreds MORE Proofs of God’s Existence: http://www.godlessgeeks.com/LINKS/GodProof.htm



‘Gods’ and magic are the most simplistic excuses ignorant primitives have ever imagined explaining anything.



We could just as well suggest The Rainbow Serpent, with or without the assistance of a mob of gum booted Pixies, did it cos there’s the same amount of evidence... NONE.

~

Answer 11

Example please.







Actually there are not. The universe goes effectively dark at about 13 billion light years due to the lack of any stars being around at that time.

Answer 12

Huh? All the time frames I've seen (not counting the new-earth nutcakes, of course) allow for the light to reach us.



Zvi the Fiddler

Answer 13

Quasars have a nasty habit of making a temporal vortex that warps the space time continuum.



I learned that on Star Trek...or was it Doctor Who?

Answer 14

There is more to heaven and earth than is dreamed of in your philosophy. That, plus, big bangs have been happening in various places and at various times. Our shortsightedness assumes that our neighborhood is IT.

Answer 15

The universe (it is proposed) was shaped not spherically, but like an apple in the beginning. This allowed for faster travel of light and, indeed, objects to traverse the universe at much faster speeds than now.

Answer 16

idk, but it doesn't make sense that the whole universe was made up of what consisted b4 the big bang. I mean if you have a ball of stars, then there has a to be a space around that ball of mass. We will never know the meaning of life and the beginnings...people need to just accept it.

Answer 17

Are you saying there are quasars detected far away enough from us and close enough to the CMB field that should preclude them having the time necessary to form and become quasars?



Source please.

Answer 18

Unless those astral bodies didn't travel at all.

Funny thing about space, it doesn't exist until there's something in it.

Answer 19

Sauce?

Answer 20

Velcro and rubberbands.

Answer 21

Atheists hate GOD so much they will believe in spaghetti monsters as their GOD.

Answer 22

Everything under the sun proves it. Everyday we look out the window proves it. Scientist are baffled at why we die when they see no reason why we should. The body is designed to renew itself. I guess 'they' think the big bang is still going on. LOL

Answer 23

Let's start here: Links to accredited scientific websites that support your assertion, please.

Answer 24

Time and space didn't exist retard

Answer 25

No, it doesn't

Answer 26

If there was a big bang it happened millions of years before God created the earth as it is.

Answer 27

Basic sensibility proves the "big bang" is a hoax. That's all you need.

Answer 28

Nobody claims that the big bang is fact except for the idiot atheists who don't know any better.