Question:
Christians: can you prove that the following things are true?
2014-02-10 19:25:07 UTC
1. The Bible was inspired/written by God
2. Adam and Eve existed
3. Satan exists
4. Evolution is a myth
5. Homosexuality is harmful/unnatural
6. Dinosaurs lived alongside humans
7. All other religions besides Christianity are false
8. Heaven and hell exist
9. A great flood occurred
10. Jesus had divine powers

(Disclaimer: this question is only meant for fundamentalist Christians, not their moderate counterparts)

And PLEASE give me a rational, scientific answer. DO NOT quote the bible, or reference the bible. I want proof. I want statistics. Factual, logical answers. No religious ANYTHING

Thank you :)
Nine answers:
2014-02-10 19:39:41 UTC
Wow...did you read this question?? Let's look at your criterion for proof. Well, many of the things you want proven are historical, and historical things can't be proven scientifically, so I guess that means Shakespeare and Caesar weren't real, because all we have are a bunch of historical documents, and no scientific proof. Secondly, you want statistical proof...of what?? Life after death? You want statistics on historical events? Now look who's being illogical. Now, logical arguments? We can do that.



First of all, atheists believe there is no God, nothing supernatural, no eternal, uncreated, timeless, all-powerful being outside of time and space. Correct? Now, we know that the universe had a beginning, and the Kalam proposition tells us that what had a beginning must have a cause, a reason for it's beginning to exist. With me so far? Things don't begin to exist without a cause. So we know (thanks to philosophy, physics, the Big Bang) that the universe had a beginning, and that means it had to have had a cause. Now, what was the nature of that cause? Well, if it caused the universe to be, it has to be outside the universe, because the universe can't create the universe, that's illogical. We know this cause must be uncaused, MUST be uncaused, because an infinite regression of causes is impossible. We know this cause must have had a tremendous amount of power, because it created the universe from nothing. Occam's razor tells us this being is more likely one than many. And logic tells us it is most likely a personal cause. Why? Because a lump of rock does not change into an ax head by itself, it must be acted upon. For nothing to become something, it must have been acted upon. So, by using very simple logic, we have determined that the universe had a cause, and that this cause must be uncaused, all-powerful, and outside space-time. It is most likely a personal being, at it is most likely one being. Now, who does that sound like? God. Although this doesn't prove the Bible or the Christian God, it does logically prove that there is an eternal, uncuased, all-powerful being, which atheism says does not exist.



Keep in mind that the laws of logic state that, if the premises are irrefutable, then you must accept the conclusion, no matter how much you dislike it. I challenge any atheist on here to refute these premises.
brother trucker
2014-02-10 19:50:16 UTC
!, certainly not true. Although many parts of the Bible are certainly inspired the Bible admits to being tampered with by dishonest sources twice.



2. The names of Adam and Eve indicate the father and mother of the human race. A person could certainly build a case for them being symbolic. The Bible is filled with symbolisms.



3. Evil exists in every negative act. The Bible calls the source of this evil satan and describes him.



4. The Bible certainly does not claim evolution is a myth.



5. The OT is certainly against Homosexuality and calls it a sin. Paul tried to bring those teachings into the NT. It is because of that and racist, sexist teachings that no serious researcher considers Paul an apostle. The Homosexual needs to decide if what they are doing is moral or natural.



6. The Bible doesn't mention dinasaurs. It does mention the Leviathen and Behemoth, both land animals that were very large. Nothing like what is described here exists today. They are both mentioned in the oldest book of the Bible, Job.



7. Most religions have their truthes. It seems logical that we will not realize these truths until we come together to learn those truths from each other. The concept is well known and is called the brotherhood of man.



8. I don't think they exist as places. It seems they are the same place separated by positive and negative thoughts that will keep the 2 separate as negativity will not be able to live in the positive love of the afterlife. John tells us in Revelation there will be a people tormented in the presence of Jesus and the angels so I don't believe negative people go any place just isolate themselves.



9. The great flood is found in the literature of every ancient race. There can be no doubt that a great flood occurred.



10. I cant prove Jesus had Devine powers but you can. I have found Him willing to communicate with any serious seeker of truth and present Himself in unmistakable ways. I cant do that for you though.



11. Anyone who asks for scientific answers for religious questions is obviously not operating with both oars in the water. Philosophy could dig up so much evidence for your questions it would take literally weeks to answer. It cannot be managed in a few paragraphs and these do not seem to be the answers you seek.



You seem to be attempting to bate uneducated Christians into a discussion on epistemic values using non epistemic based sciences. You are aren't you? That would be very dishonest on your part.



I suggest you familiarize yourself with some of the finer philosophies if you are really seeking answers. .
NDMA
2014-02-10 19:35:52 UTC
The only thing on your list that is remotely scientific is #4.. Of course the "burden of proof" falls on the affirmative claim.. Darwinism is a myth because there is simply no empirical evidence to support it and every hypothetical mechanism behind it has been refuted by observation or experimentation. The mountains of anecdote and wonderfully eloquent sophisms generally cited as 'proof' of Darwinism is not empirical evidence.



NDMA: using "large" words isn't making you sound intelligent....i wanted a straight forward answer. I want proof that all of the things are listed are true. Is that too difficult for you?



And please, everyone, do not add unnecessary comments. Just give me simple answers for each numbered question



7 minutes ago



In other words you don't have any empirical evidence for Darwinism! Not that I am surprised!
2014-02-10 20:30:27 UTC
. .Okay, I will not use large or intelligent words to confuse you. I will number them so you can find your way through this difficult task. 1) #1 I - since your rules say not to mention the Bible, how can i discuss God writing the Bible? This question is a 404. #2, II, drie, etc- adam et eve are in the Qu'ran, Trois, #3 three, III, there is no good without bad, #4, quatre IV, no God made a worl for monkeys, #50 etc ever see a penis vagina? Nasty! For creation only. #6. What idiot would belive a pErson borrowed a cup of sugar from a dinosaur? All religions are false. Only belief in God is real. Oops!! That was number 7. #8 i heaven and hell- well heaven is with God hell is somplace - a bar-b-q pit, gay community, library, eternal gym class.# 9, a flood in England now and #10 - yeah, for those days, but today, i use water when making wine, optometrists make people see. Chris Angel walks on water, people die in hospitals but they revive them. Old stuff, but great in the old days. ☺
Evangelist
2014-02-10 20:15:12 UTC
Can you prove they are not true??





Oh, and do not use a quote from a science book or reference a science book.



I believe and know in my heart God is real - that's what counts!! :D
Gregory
2014-02-10 19:54:11 UTC
yes we can show all those things are true



eye witness accounts confirm they occurred



the bible is evidence they occurred



so why don't you show us evidence evolution is true but you can't use any science text book or anything a scientist claimed is true?



so prove evolution occurred with out using any science text book or scientific information.
Your Word is a light to my roadway
2014-02-10 19:45:16 UTC
You can't prove something true to someone who doesn't want to believe. Prove the first as true and all the others are answered as true with the exception of #6.
John D
2014-02-10 19:27:03 UTC
No, but they really really really want them to be true. Doesn't that count for something?
2014-02-10 19:38:57 UTC
no, I don't even have my socks on


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