Light bulb went off about Evolution and Creationism!...?

Question

Okay so I believe that the world could have been made by either evolution OR creationism. Some of the stories of the Bible are parables used to teach. What if Adam and Eve was a parable to explain what He did, He created life. If this is so, then maybe He used evolution as his tool to create the world. Thus, the world was created by either evolution or creationism, both by the power of God.
So, earlier someone was asking about women having more ribs then men since according to Adam and Eve God made Eve out of Adam's rib. (I believe we have the same amount, isn't it scientifically proven?) Anyways, since we both have 12 ribs, that could show how Adam and Eve really is a parable. Or, of course, it could just mean that Adam had a spare rib (no pun intended) and man and woman both ended up with twelve after it was all said and done. So...what do you think? Am I crazy? Am I really really smart? Am I some other adjective?

Answer 1

It's not impossible to be a theist (such as a Christian) and take evolution seriously as well. There are actually many Christians that do this and are able to take science and facts and education seriously.



Keep thinking, keep researching. And don't listen to the morons on here that will tell you otherwise.



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The fact that you're actually thinking shows you're not stupid. You're young - you have a ways to go.



As I said - keep thinking and keep researching. Get all views and all sides and look at credible sources. No Dr. Dino/Kent Hovind nonsense.

Answer 2

If God had actually removed a rib from Adam, that would not change Adam's or Eve's genetic make up and thus their descendants would have the same number of ribs.



Yes, there are many people that believe in theistic evolution, however, this has two general problems, The first is that there is no evidence that suggests any sort of intelligent or divine involvement in evolution, so claiming that god was involved is the same as claiming that fairies were involved. Second, from the religious perspective, it invalidates all the genealogies that refer to Adam and significantly changes the theology and doctrines about original sin, blood sacrifice, and thus the need for Jesus to be sacrificed.



Granted, religion will adapt and change its teachings as it always has, but this will not affect the first problem.



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It should also be noted that parables in the Bible are generally stated as parables i.e. in a manner like "And he told them this parable". We do not find this for most of the old testament and we do find much of it being referred to as if it had happened.

Answer 3

the original translation of the story of creation is actually like a poem, with poetic phrasing.



the translation of the english word 'day' is 'when the work is done' in hebrew. in my eyes, the big bang happened, God did it.



I am a Christian, and I cannot sit here and imagine that God magicked up the world just out thin air, and put animals on the earth like dragging clip art onto a word document.



If anyone here is an honest Christian, they can see the poetry in God's word. there is poetic repetition in each day. God looked at what He had made and saw it good. then there was evening. then there was morning. the first day.



God made the big bang happen, and the whole earth came together, and the heavens and the earth were separated when the planet came together as one, and an atmosphere appeared from volcanoes etc. then the sea appeared, and life, which evolved into humans.



In my opinion, this is the sensible way for God to do His fabulous work. How else do people logically expect all these things to appear?



I also do not know how evolutionists, as in who do not believe in God, how they can claim all this happened without someone doing it. They believe that the whole universe came into being, with all it's life from nothing. Why can God not have done this? I believe He did.



Hope this helps.

Answer 4

Well, it has also been suggested that god only needed to create some hydrogen and the fundamental laws of physics, and from there nature can take over and create stars, atoms that fit all the slots in the periodic table, and life itself. If that is the case, god should have no role in anything we see, and least of all the private life of human beings. Homo sapiens is therefore not created in the image of god, and Adam and Eve is just a myth too. Obviously, if that is the case, nobody will bother pray or go to Church to worship god, and of course nobody can claim that Jesus is the son of god either. As you may see, such a version of god would not be very beneficial to churches and religions. That is why creationists insist on a literal interpretation of the Bible and creation. You may think you have a moment of revelation and discovered the truth, but in fact what you are proposing have already been thought of, thought over and rejected by religious leaders.

Answer 5

I would not call you stupid, you just don't have all the facts.



You are not a guy, which is why you are not aware of the fact that guys DO have a rib missing. If you compare your nearest willing and available guy friend to yourself, you will find a rib missing.





Also, there is "hermeneutics." Hermeneutics means principles whereby we correctly interpret the Bible. Without proper hermeneutics, we can jump to wrong conclusions, because we are not using the proper method to interpret the Bible. The greatest principle of proper hermeneutics, is that if the Bible can be interpreted literally, it should be interpreted literally. It says what it means and means what it says. Now there may also be a allegorical meaning to a literal passage (a parable, like you said) but the allegorical meaning DOES NOT replace the literal meaning, it only adds to it. The literal meaning is what the passage is saying.



So if we apply this principle of hermeneutics to the story of Adam and Eve, the correct interpretation is that God literally did create Adam and Eve and creationism is the correct story about the origin of life. There is nothing in the Bible that describes evolution so there is no Biblical proof for it being true. As for scientific proof, there is no scientific proof either, because there are no fossils of creatures that are evolving...half one animal evolving to another. The "fossils" of the various "pre-historic" forms of "man" are just single bones and are either fossils of animals or fossils of people, not transitional, evolving forms.



So you are not stupid, you just don't have all the facts, and anyone who doesn't have all the facts can come to the wrong conclusion.

Answer 6

Your thinking on your own and that's good. Good for recognizing many of the stories are parables.



However, it seems to me that while you logically know they are parables, you are emotionally still having a hard time accepting it. That's why you are twisting them around trying to combine them with evolution. Why assume they have anything to do with evolution? People didn't even begin to understand evolution until long after most of these parables were written.

Answer 7

There is a big difference between micro and macro evolution.

One can agree that something had a common ancestor like a Labradoodle being part Poodle and part Labrador. However, that is a far cry of saying man came from a banana as there is no observations, evidence or transformational evidence to support it.



I would rather believe in Jesus and God as there is far more evidence to support them than there is evolution. Besides, I have enough issues and wouldn't want to have to stand before God and have to answer for not believing in Him, Jesus or what He said in His word.

Answer 8

You're well on your way to belief in a god so thoroughly hidden that it becomes irrelevant and meaningless.



You are beginning to recognize that we gradually, naturally rose from other life, and you're pushing superstition into hard-to reach corners you think science can't touch.



It would be a shame if you recognized reality and were still never able to shed the mythology that contradicts it.

Answer 9

The universe is only several thousand years old.



Comets are an example of a natural clock within our solar system. With each orbit around the sun, comets lose considerable mass. They cannot be very old because they cannot survive many orbits.

To get around this problem, many astronomers assume there is a vast cloud of comets out near the edge of the solar system, which releases new comets every so often. This imaginary cloud is called the "Oort Cloud," named after the astronomer who proposed it. The problem is that there is no observational evidence such a cloud exists at all.

Each year our knowledge of astronomy increases with new evidence concerning the origin of our solar system, our galaxy, and our universe. While it is possible to make assumptions beyond what can be observed and verified, the heavens continue to bear witness to recent creation.





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http://www.icr.org/articles/view/1842/245/

Answer 10

I don't know if you're crazy or not, but whatever let's you sleep at night.



Just do me a favor, if you want to go into some science field when you grow up....study more.

Answer 11

No, your theory has nothing to back it up

but it's good that you're able to realize that a lot of stories in the bible are metaphors. keep thinking.

Answer 12

Theistic evolution. While not original, kudos for thinking of it.



Disclosure, I'm not a theist, just identifying your idea.

Answer 13

"I believe that the world could have been made by either evolution OR creationism."



Evolution didn't create the world. It's the process for the diversity of life in the world.



Creationism has no evidence.



"Am I really really smart?" Barely.

Answer 14

If a doctor removes one of my fingers and I decide to marry and we have a child, does my child that is born have a missing finger?

Just a thought

Answer 15

The buy-bull account of creation is man made nonsense.



That does not make an Intelligent Designer out of the question.

Answer 16

One problem. Jesus talked about Adam like he was real.

Answer 17

if I were Christian

I would be thinking exactly the same as you

and yes you are correct about the ribs

Answer 18

Evolution is a lie. The evidence is garbage. The Bible is 100% truth. Make sure you are saved. Please pray a sincere prayer with all of your heart admitting to Jesus you are a sinner. Have full faith that His blood pays off all of your sins and accept His gift of everlasting life. I pray that God blesses you with peace. Amen.

Answer 19

it really happened. God never lies. We either believe Him or we dont. I believe HIM..