Question:
Was Judas ever saved?
Trilobiteme
2013-09-18 07:03:35 UTC
Peter in Matthew 16:16 called Jesus the Christ Judas called Jesus a Rabbi

Is that why Jesus Christ forgave peter and not Judas?
Sixteen answers:
anonymous
2013-09-18 07:07:15 UTC
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Rama
2013-09-18 16:12:16 UTC
Judas was the only one who would obey Jesus when he stated that one of them must betray him.

The others said not me, not me. They didn't believe Jesus when he told them He would be killed and

and resurrect in 3 days.. None of them wanted to be responsible for Him dying. Judas believed him and did as He requested. Judas accepted the ransom so as to seem a legitimate betrayer. After Jesus arrest judas grew afraid that his beloved Jesus would not return and his sorrow was so extreme that he hanged himself. His faith was the stronger of the twelve but his grief for the pending death of his beloved Lord was more than he could live with. All the male disciples denied that they even knew Jesus. They are the ones who needed forgiving, not Judas. You can research "The Gospel of Judas"

Judas was the hero. The other men were cowards.
?
2013-09-18 16:04:43 UTC
Judas is called a son of perdition in John 17: 12 Only one other is called that in the bible, the anti christ.



Son of perdition means damned, Full Definition of PERDITION 1. utter destruction , loss 2 a. eternal damnation b : hell



Whether he was 'ever' saved is of less importance than his final destination.



Peter was forgiven because he "repented" in the right way...was truly sorry for having sinned by denying Christ.



Judas 'repented' in the wrong way...Maybe he was sorry that he got 'caught'.



Blessing you with true repentance for forgiveness and receiving NOW no more condemnation.
anonymous
2013-09-18 14:38:16 UTC
According to John 6:64, did Jesus know from the time of selecting Judas Iscariot that Judas would betray him? Apparently he did not. On one occasion in the year 32 C.E., however, Jesus told his apostles: "One of you is a slanderer." Possibly, at that point Jesus noticed in Judas Iscariot a "beginning," or start, of a wrong course. (John 6:66-71) it is true that Psalm 41:9 says: "The man at peace with me, in whom I trusted, who was eating my bread, has magnified his heel against me." Yet, notice that the prophecy does not specify which close associate of Jesus it would be. Jehovah knew that the Devil had used David's counselor Ahithophel to betray him, and He had that recorded because it demonstrated how the Devil operated and what he would do in the future. It was not God but "the Devil . . . [who] put it into the heart of Judas Iscariot, the son of Simon, to betray him [Jesus]." (John 13:2) Instead of resisting, Judas yielded to that satanic influence. Again, not from the beginning of creation, nor from the time of Judas' birth, or his choosing as an apostle, but "from the beginning" of his acting treacherously. If Judas were already divinely foreordained to be a traitor, this would make him a sharer in the sins that one committed. Judas' heart presented no definite evidence of a treasonous attitude. He allowed a 'poisonous root to spring up' and defile him, resulting in his deviation and in his accepting, not God's direction, but the Devil's leading in a course of thievery and treachery. (Heb 12:14, 15; Joh 13:2; Ac 1:24, 25; Jas 1:14, 15) By the time such deviation reached a certain point, Jesus himself could read Judas’ heart and foretell his betrayal. (Joh 13:10, 11) Judas "later betrayed" Jesus and "turned traitor." (Mt 10:4; Lu 6:16) It is for this reason he was rejected by God, never forgiven and he was not included in God's purpose regarding Jesus' giving his life in our behalf because he loves us so much. Because Judas made no changes from being a thief he was emboldened to do far worse in sinning against God and Jesus, the betrayal. For this Jesus said it was better that he not have been born, that is the one betraying him. If he had changed before the betrayal and repented of the stealing he would had been forgiven. Then in cowardly fashion he killed himself. Before that he went to the priests instead of to God and acted not like Peter who wept bitterly and was forgiven for denying Christ; also a serious sin. (Mr 14:21; Joh 17:12; Heb 10:26-29) He was also called son of destruction. No life for him. Dead forever. Cease to exist eternally.
BJ
2013-09-18 14:16:47 UTC
Judas is introduced into the Gospel accounts in the listing of the apostles sometime after Passover 31 C.E. and about a year and a half after Jesus began his ministry.



It is logical to conclude that Judas had been a disciple for a time before Jesus made him an apostle. evidently for a while he had been a disciple who found favor with God and with Jesus; his very selection as an apostle indicates that.



Furthermore, he was entrusted with caring for the common finances of Jesus and the 12.



That reflects favorably on his dependability at the time and his ability or education, especially since Matthew had had experience with money and figures but did not receive this assignment. Nonetheless, Judas did become completely, inexcusably corrupt.



Near Passover 32 C.E., Judas, with the other apostles, was sent out preaching. after Judas’ return, and less than a year after he had been made an apostle, he was publicly denounced by Christ, though not by name.



Some disciples left Jesus, being shocked over his teachings, but Peter said that the 12 would stick with Christ. In response Jesus acknowledged that he had chosen the 12 but said: “One of you is a slanderer, meaning “devil” or “slanderer”.”



The account explains that the one who already was a slanderer was Judas, who “was going to betray him, although one of the twelve.”



at the beginning of his apostleship Judas was faithful to God and to Jesus. Thus Christ must have meant that “from the beginning” of when Judas started to go bad, started to give in to imperfection and sinful inclinations, Jesus recognized it.



Judas must have known he was the “slanderer” Jesus mentioned, but he continued to travel with Jesus and the faithful apostles and apparently he made no changes.



five days before Jesus’ death, Mary, Lazarus’ sister, anointed Jesus with perfumed oil worth 300 denarii, about a year’s wages for a laborer. Judas strongly objected that the oil could have been sold and the money “given to the poor people.”



other apostles merely assented to what seemed to be a valid point, but Jesus rebuked them.



Judas’ real reason for objecting was that he cared for the money box and he “was a thief and used to carry off the monies” put in the box. So Judas was a greedy, practicing thief.



Yes, you could say Judas was saved, until He became corrupt.



The course that Judas chose was a deliberate one, involving malice, greed, pride, hypocrisy, and scheming.



He afterward felt remorse under the burden of guilt, as a willful murderer might at the result of his crime.



Yet Judas had of his own volition made a bargain with those who Jesus said made proselytes that were subjects of Gehenna twice as much as themselves, who were also liable to “the judgment of Gehenna.” which there is no resurrection for anyone in (Gehenna)



On the final night of his earthly life, Jesus himself said, actually about Judas: “It would have been finer for that man if he had not been born.” Later Christ called him “the son of destruction.”
the brick
2013-09-18 14:10:03 UTC
Jesus said at the last supper, speaking of Judas, "one of you is the devil". Judas was not a Christian as is evident by his actions. Not all people are forgiven automatically. We must repent of our sin, and place our faith and trust in the finished work of Jesus' sacrifice on the cross. Judas did not repent or place his faith in Jesus. He was a false convert. Money was his God.
Arantheal  
2013-09-18 14:07:17 UTC
I don't get it. Didn't Judas do God's work by betraying Jesus to the Romans?



It's an illogical aspect of Christianity that the very person who was needed for God's plan to work is looked as something resembling a devil for doing what Christians think was a good thing, facilitating Jesus' death.
Mackey
2013-09-18 14:12:24 UTC
There was nothing to forgive Judas for. He did exactly what Jesus asked him to do.



By the way, Jesus, if he did exist, was not Christ. He was, as the rest of the world knows well, a false messiah.
?
2013-09-18 14:15:00 UTC
rabbi= I. my great one, my honorable sir

II. Rabbi, a title used by the Jews to address their teachers (and also honour them when not addressing them.



since jesus didn't bring peace to the jews for a thousand years and didn't make the grade to be the hebrew messiah.

it looks like peter was wrong and judas was correct.
?
2013-09-18 15:29:10 UTC
And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day.

(John 6:39)



As his first act of the last day, Jesus washed the heel lifted up against him. (John 13:1-18)
?
2013-09-18 14:08:48 UTC
No. I don't think so. Judas probably could have been saved, but he gave up that hope when he hung himself. Not that suicide is an unforgivable sin, but because he brought his life to an end without being reconciled to Christ.
janaji63
2013-09-18 14:04:57 UTC
Jesus knew from the beginning he was of the devil. Judas Iscariot was never saved or he would not have been lost.
anonymous
2013-09-18 14:09:11 UTC
Maybe he will or has been given the opportunity to be saved but definitly at the time he sold Jesus out
?
2013-09-18 14:06:31 UTC
Peter and Judas both were forgiven.
?
2013-09-18 14:23:35 UTC
Judas went to Hell..in "his own place".
Secret Sauce
2013-09-18 14:06:55 UTC
Paulism saved or actually saved?



He believed in the messiah...


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