Question:
once saved always saved?
Emmanuel
2007-06-12 00:22:38 UTC
christians do u believe if u are onced saved always saved and nothing can ever separate u from salvation even though at some time u fall back into the lusts of the world and live a horrible life again from which u were saved?
23 answers:
fenian1916
2007-06-12 00:31:43 UTC
i don't agree with this concept, neither does the bible. the race is continuous not once and for all.
Paul&Zandra C
2007-06-18 22:58:23 UTC
The Bible does not support the view of once saved always saved. The apostle Peter said ,"Repent.... and turn around so as to get your sins blotted out." (Acts 3:19) To repent is to feel sincere regret over something you have done. Repentance is clearly fitting if a person has lived an immoral life, but it is also necessary even if one has lived a relatively clean life morally. Because all humans are sinners and need God's forgiveness. However, to gain salvation, one must be free from and continue to be free from serious sins, such as sexual immorality, drunkeness, and drug abuse. 1 Corithians 6:9,10 and Galatians 5:19-21. I hope these scriptures help you . You can also request the book What does the

Bible really teach which is published by the Watchtower and Bible tract society and contact the local Kingdom Hall of Jehovah's Witnesses in your area.
AdoreHim
2007-06-12 00:49:21 UTC
There is security in salvation- otherwise what hope would we have. Everyone of us who are saved still can sin, and what if every time we sinned we would lose our salvation- that would put our hope in accepting Christ over and over again, and what if we died before we confessed that last sin? About your question though- Once saved would you really go back to that blatant of a sinful life- could you actually knowingly do that and be a born again believer- I don't believe so, that is something God will judge. Many people say Lord, Lord, and will never be saved. We have our hope anchored in the fact that we have an eternal security. But the proof that we are truly saved is that we bear fruit that lasts.
babydoll
2007-06-12 00:38:07 UTC
No. The Bible says that we must endure to the end in order to be saved, (Matthew 13:13) Romans 13:11-14 tells us Do this, too, because YOU people know the season, that it is already the hour for YOU to awake from sleep, for now our salvation is nearer than at the time when we became believers.  The night is well along; the day has drawn near. Let us therefore put off the works belonging to darkness and let us put on the weapons of the light.  As in the daytime let us walk decently, not in revelries and drunken bouts, not in illicit intercourse and loose conduct, not in strife and jealousy.  But put on the Lord Jesus Christ, and do not be planning ahead for the desires of the flesh.

None of us can consider ourselves completely saved until the end of our lives or of this wicked world, whichever comes first.
Twoflowers
2007-06-12 10:01:03 UTC
"They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us...." 1 John 2:19



Perhaps, those who think they were saved (but who later slid back into the greasy grasp of worldly pleasure to live a life of desperate debauchery) were never actually of the saved. For if saved, they would have continued along the righteous path rather than straying into sensuous sin.



In my view, "once saved, always saved" makes better theoretical sense than the "now you're saved, now you're lost, now you're saved again" mentality of many Christians, but I'm a slacker who several years ago wandered back to the warm embrace of delicious worldly pleasure (which renders my opinion questionable at best). If a Christian's salvation status is as ephemeral as most Christian's appear to believe, it would flicker on and off like an old-fashioned blue light special at K-Mart.
Linda Bluegull
2007-06-19 20:04:30 UTC
I know what you mean. If you aren't really saved for all time then Jesus would have to die and save you again but if you want to live an unrighteous life after you've been saved then what was it all for? I'd rather think that God is the father and we are the children and we can make mistakes and nobody gets killed and we are still accountable for our actions and to live and learn.
dofsarah
2007-06-19 01:30:46 UTC
Yes once saved eternally saved. You would not want to fall back to the "horrible" & lowly life if u know who you are in Christ once you are saved!!!



Jesus Christ has given you to stand on holy & victorious grace ground! HE has made you More than a conqueror! You are a King & a Priest of the most High God!

You are the heir of the world and co-heirs with Christ in God's abundant riches!!

You have been crowned with glory and honour! You have been deeply loved & highly favoured by God..to have God gave up Jesus to suffer the cross for U, Dude!!



like the show of LION KING : have u forgotten who you are?

You are the son of the King!!

We are all sons & daughters of the King of Kings!!

KOW-TOW to Him! haha! Amen!
Doc
2007-06-14 06:37:24 UTC
I've noticed Emanuel that all you do to answer any-ones question is write that same piece of scripture

this is proof that bible bashing Christians don't really have anything to say and that the word of Jesus/god can actually answer nothing

you have no mind of your own you have been brainwashed into babbling on about the scriptures you have had drilled into you and thus believing them

i am saddened by your plight

you will never know what the experience of real LIFE is

i pity you
Rev. Matthew
2007-06-18 19:14:46 UTC
You cannot be truely saved and fall back to anything. Once you are saved you become a different person completely. You give yourself to God, ask Him to lead you from that point onward, and ask forgiveness for your sins.



If you think that you can be saved and return to a lesser life thereafter then you weren't truely saved in the first place.
morkie
2007-06-12 00:33:51 UTC
I was quite religious when I was young, I even spent some time at a religious community, but like the prodigal son I went back into the world and pretty much lost my faith for a number of years. God in his mercy restored my faith, but I honestly don't know what would have happened to me during those crazy years if I had died.
carl
2007-06-12 00:39:05 UTC
No that's not true, grace can be lost through grievous sin.



Otherwise you can say "I'm saved" and then get out and gun down an entire school with children and shoot yourself and upon that immeiately go into the presence of the Most Just and Holy God.



No no you see this is false.
ccrider
2007-06-16 16:36:55 UTC
We don't know who is saved and who's not. And we as Christians exhort one another continuously to grow in the faith. But God does know who is saved because he chooses us from before the foundations of the world, and the ones he has chosen have the Holy Spirit living within their hearts as God wills. If God has brought his own unto himself, why would he let them go?
Jen
2007-06-12 00:32:09 UTC
If you sin (which everyone does so you can't help it) Then you're still saved. If you turn away from God and His son, then you are definately going to hell. You can't just ask Jesus into your heart and sin all the way until you die never asking for forgiveness or just not caring about God's limitations. You have to live for Him all the way.
Conundrum
2007-06-15 18:21:51 UTC
Once saved always saved is not taught in the Bible



Look at the following verse



“You are already clean because of the word which I have spoken to you. Every branch in Me that does not bear fruit He takes away; IF ANYONE DOES NOT ABIDE IN Me, he is cast out as a branch and is withered; and they gather them and throw them into the fire, and they are burned.”

John 15:1-6



They were saved but they did not abide so they were lost



"But if a righteous man turns from his righteousness and commits sin and does the same detestable things the wicked man does, will he live? None of the righteous things he has done will be remembered. Because of the unfaithfulness he is guilty of and because of the sins he has committed, he will die." Ezekiel 18:24



The man was righteous and saved but he turned away and is now lost



"Yet you say, 'The way of the Lord is not just.' Hear, O house of Israel: Is my way unjust? Is it not your ways that are unjust? 26 If a righteous man turns from his righteousness and commits sin, he will die for it; because of the sin he has committed he will die. But if a wicked man turns away from the wickedness he has committed and does what is just and right, he will save his life. Because he considers all the offenses he has committed and turns away from them, he will surely live; he will not die. Yet the house of Israel says, 'The way of the Lord is not just.' Are my ways unjust, O house of Israel? Is it not your ways that are unjust?" Ezekiel 18:25-29



It is impossible for those who have once been enlightened, who have tasted the heavenly gift, who have shared in the Holy Spirit, who have tasted the goodness of the word of God and the powers of the coming age, IF THEY FALL AWAY, to be brought back to repentance, because[b]to their loss they are crucifying the Son of God all over again and subjecting him to public disgrace.

Hebrews 6:4



Why would the Bible say "If they fall away from salvation" if it was not possible?



Saul was chosen by God, He had the Holy Spirit which enabled him to prophesy yet he turned away and was lost



Jesus sent Judas out with the other disciples and he preached and healed people with the power of the Holy spirit yet he turned away and betrayed Jesus.



“When I say to the righteous he will surely live, and he so trusts in his righteousness that he commits iniquity, none of his righteous deeds will be remembered; but in that same iniquity of his which he has committed he will die." Ezekiel 33:13



“Brethren, if anyone among you WANDERS FROM THE TRUTH, and someone turns him back, let him know that he who turns a sinner from the error of his way will save a soul from death and cover multitude of sins. James 5:19-20



“Therefore consider the goodness and severity of God: on THOSE WHO FELL, severity; but toward you, goodness, IF YOU CONTINUE in His goodness. Otherwise you also will be cut off.” Romans 11:22



“IF we endure, we shall also reign with Him. If we deny Him, He also will deny us.” II Timothy 2:12



Why would the Bible say "If we abide" "If we continue to follow" if we could not turn away?



These are only a few of the texts that speak against Once saved always saved



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http://amazingfacts.org/media/player.asp?pid=733&type=video
anonymous
2007-06-12 21:45:09 UTC
Hi,



The doctrine of 'Once Saved Always Save' (OSAS) is not evangelical.



Let's read a statement from Apostle (APOSTLE) Paul himself. He said in 1 Corinthians 9:27,



"but I buffet my body, and bring it into bondage: lest by any means, after that I have preached to others, I myself should be rejected. "



It was said by an APOSTLE.



He buffet his body and bring it into bondange... les by any means, after he had preached to others, he himself should be rejected.



Is OSAS (Once Saved Always Save) doctrine true? No, definitely not.



Let's read again another verse in 2 Corinthians 13:5,



"Try your own selves, whether ye are in the faith; prove your own selves. Or know ye not as to your own selves, that Jesus Christ is in you? unless indeed ye be reprobate. "





For more info, visit



www.truthcaster.com

www.theoldpath.tv

http://esoriano.wordpress.com
alley
2007-06-19 21:18:54 UTC
No don't believe once saved always saved. Its just false
christina w
2007-06-12 00:30:41 UTC
I beleive in god..and i always will.

but i beleive that "once saved your always saved" is not true.

if you deny your maker your going to hell, for example if you believe and then decide you dont.

and if you are really sinful i believe that you ,must confess your sins b4 u go or ure goin to hell.

truthfully. ive been saved.

but i beleive that if i sin and die before i have prayed for forgiveness im going to hell regardless of if ive been saved or not bc i have sins that i havent confessed...so yeah.lol...

there are ways to make ur-self unsaved once youve been saved so.. no.
nagarajan s
2007-06-12 00:31:48 UTC
The self once realised will not let you back to ignorance. Hence once realisation is dawned means you will not slide back.
anonymous
2007-06-12 03:11:57 UTC
No. Because you still have freedom of choice. A person can still choose to turn his or her back on God.
Guy E
2007-06-18 22:21:56 UTC
God will always forgive if you ask for His forgiveness. Without exception.
KAT PET
2007-06-19 01:43:48 UTC
Yes, God will forgive you if ask for forgiveness in Jesus' name.
raytaylor1970
2007-06-12 00:30:09 UTC
The Bible’s View



“Once Saved, Always Saved”—How Certain?



THE “Son of Sam” killer terrorized New York city residents for more than a year, killing six random victims and wounding several others. Yet the person accused of the crime reportedly had been “saved” at a church meeting about four years before his reign of terror began.



A former army friend of the suspect who had invited him to the church meeting relates that the new convert “came up to me grinning and laughing and saying, ‘Man, I’m saved.’ Then we came back that same day for the evening service and he went forward again at the invitation [to accept Christ]. He told me afterward that he just wanted to make sure it [being “saved”] took.”



Upon hearing the charges against this former member of her church, another member told the Associated Press: “I’m just thankful he was saved.” Why? She declared: “The Bible says, once saved, always saved.”—New York Post, August 25, 1977, p. 2.



Does the Bible actually say, “Once saved, always saved”? No, it does not use those words in any specific text, but many sincere people believe that this is what the Bible teaches. And it is true that a number of Bible texts indicate that the basis for salvation is not one’s works, but, rather, faith in Jesus Christ, together with God’s “grace” and mercy. (Eph. 2:8, 9; 2 Tim. 1:9; Titus 3:4, 5) Additionally, Jesus himself said that “he that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life.”—John 3:36, Authorized Version (AV); 1 John 5:13.



From such references it is often reasoned that if one ‘has everlasting life,’ he actually possesses it permanently; it cannot be lost, or, as many would have it: “Once saved, always saved.” However, does this understanding fully express the Scriptural view of gaining everlasting life?



Well, Christians concerned about their salvation may also wish to consider Jesus’ declaration that “he that endureth to the end shall be saved.” (Matt. 10:22; 24:12, 13; Mark 13:13, AV) And the apostle Paul comments similarly: “For we are made partakers of Christ, if we hold the beginning of our confidence stedfast unto the end.”—Heb. 3:14, AV.



How are we to reconcile these seeming disparities? Surely these servants of God were not contradicting themselves. Rather, were they not merely expressing the same understanding from different viewpoints? The apostle Paul provides the key to harmonizing these viewpoints.



Time and again Paul likens the Christian’s course to a “race” that must be run to the finish. “Let us run with patience the race that is set before us,” he urged the Hebrews. (12:1, AV) To enter the race, sinners must take the steps necessary for salvation: hearing and accepting the Word of God, believing in Jesus Christ and his ransom sacrifice, repenting of their sins and being baptized. In this way, they get saved “from this crooked generation,” as Peter exhorted those gathered at Pentecost. Unbelievers are outside the race, having failed to enter by getting “saved.”—Acts 2:37-40, Revised Standard Version (RSV); 16:31-33; Rom. 10:13, 14.



Once entered in the race by being “saved,” a Christian takes “hold of the life which is life indeed.” But is it possible to lose that grip on life? Paul answers with this question: “Do you not know that in a race all the runners compete, but only one receives the prize?” In the Christian race, Paul indicates the “one” who receives the prize is anyone who finishes the race. Therefore, Paul urges, “So run that you may obtain it.” Then, using himself as an example to make the point of his illustration, he continues: “I pommel my body and subdue it, lest after preaching to others I myself should be disqualified.”—1 Tim. 6:19; 1 Cor. 9:24-27, RSV.



Evidently the apostle, who surely was a “saved” Christian, believed that even he could be “disqualified” from the race. Yet as long as he continued to ‘run that he might obtain’ the prize, thus remaining in the race, salvation was assured. This is why Christians who remain in the race can be said to ‘have everlasting life.’ But if they should ever quit the race, they are “disqualified,” losing their hold on everlasting life.



Hence, Paul follows up his remarks on the Christian’s race by cautioning about the danger of overconfidence. Using the example of the Israelites who were saved through the Red Sea, yet fell to wrongdoing in the wilderness, he warned: “We [“saved” Christians] must not put the Lord to the test.” Then, driving his point home, he declared: “Let any one who thinks that he stands take heed lest he fall.” Yes, it could happen, even to “saved” ones!—1 Cor. 10:1-12, RSV.



This is why, throughout his writings, Paul consistently emphasized his own need to stay in the race. For example, of his hoped-for reward of the resurrection, he said: “I do not consider that I have made it my own; but one thing I do, forgetting what lies behind and straining forward to what lies ahead, I press on toward the goal for the prize of the upward call of God in Christ Jesus.” It was only after Paul neared the end of his life that he wrote: “I have finished the race, I have kept the faith.” At this point in his life, he could finally say with confidence: “Henceforth there is laid up for me the crown of righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous judge, will award me on that Day.”—Phil. 3:11-14; 2 Tim. 4:6-8, RSV.



Paul’s view of his own salvation, then, is consistent with Jesus’ comments mentioned earlier about ‘enduring to the end’ to be saved.—See also Revelation 2:10; 3:11, 12, AV.



The foregoing helps us to see why Paul repeatedly entreated “saved” Christians to be on guard. Their everlasting salvation was still at stake. Addressing the obviously “saved” Hebrew Christians who had been “illuminated” and who had “endured a great fight of afflictions,” he warns: “If we sin willfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins.” The sacrificial benefits that “saved” such persons, then, can be lost. Why? Because such a person “hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto [outraged, RSV] the Spirit of grace.”—Heb. 10:26-32, AV.



Yes, Christians who truly appreciate the salvation provided through Christ and God’s grace will not be overconfident. They will strive to remain in the race like Paul and the other early Christians, whom he encouraged to “work out [their] own salvation with fear and trembling.”—Phil. 2:12, AV.
anonymous
2007-06-12 00:26:06 UTC
Jerry Fallwell is safe and sound in hell...


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