Question:
Christians: Prove that God exists?
AE6XF
2013-03-21 23:19:58 UTC
Prove that God exists without:
-using any Bible quotes
-arguing along the lines of "when we try to describe God, logic ultimately fails"
-making very vague and baseless accusations of the improbabilities of evolution
Sixteen answers:
?
2013-03-23 07:51:46 UTC
You Have already Biased the arguement from the get go, meaning you have a Bias presupposition concerning any evidence that would be given, Thus your question is not valid, It is like us asking you to prove evolution without using any type of darwinian means in any way shape or form known to man.
NDMA
2013-03-21 23:31:17 UTC
Laws governing the physical universe establish that the universe had a beginning and that it did not create itself. There are theoretical attempts to explain the physical universe without a cause but these fail.



Experimental evidence establishes that conversion of energy into mater is a product of a willful consciousness. These experiments also establish as soon as you remove this willful consciousness from the equation matter automatically reverts back to energy meaning not only is consciousness needed for the conversion to happen but also for that mater to be sustained.



Experimental (empirical) evidence trumps theoretical (math) and so it is established by empirical evidence that the material universe is the product of a willful consciousness and is sustained by a willful consciousness. By definition this consciousness is the creator - God.



The evidence establishes the existence of a 'God', but falls short so far of identifying this god as being associated with a particular faith. That question thus far is answered based on logic. That is a different question. The Empirical evidence establishes there is a creator god.



Experiments not only establish there was a creator, but we are now able to experimentally replicate the process whereby the material world was created. Creation is not only experimentally testable, it is also reproducible - i.e. a fact that can be demonstrated experimentally with reproducible results. What has not yet been answered is the identity of this creator - theists call this creator God!
Special EPhex
2013-03-22 00:01:52 UTC
God cannot be proven or disproven, why don't people get this?



The secular dictionary definition clearly states what is meant by the term, yet people inaccurately argue God as what God is not. It doesn't imply its existence or non-existence. God is a subjective awareness accepted on faith.



God as a logical concept accepts God as a Divine Power or Presence that is all-knowing, all-powerful, and ever-present. Therefore all things are God and there is nothing but God...That's is the whole point. God is infinite, without beginning or end, nor limits or bounds. God is always and forever.



This is not any different from the cosmic Laws of Conservation and Thermodynamics, which states that energy and matter cannot be created or destroyed only made to change form. Science also accepts that something cannot come from nothing. Therefore, there isn't 'nothing' for something to go to, because it is also cosmic law that everything returns to it's source. There has always been 'something' in one form or another.



The universe, defined as the totality of all that exist, is energy and matter. The Laws of science are omnipotent, omniscient, and omnipresent, as well as the source of the universe. Therefore one can consider the universe and the expressed laws of science God, as Einstein concluded (see biography of Albert Einstein, by Walter Isaacson).



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9Ug_ojd9n8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8i7UeuqtXw
maher
2016-10-31 16:12:31 UTC
Like maximum questions approximately this board, this might't be only responded with a sure and a no. God has shown to exist, only by way of the data given for Christianity as a results of fact the only genuine faith. Why and how, you may ask. For God to exist, we genuinely could tutor Christianity. with the intention to try this, 3 issues could be shown as absolute fact. a million. Jesus is the music of God 2. The Bible is absolute fact and 3. Jesus rose from the ineffective without those 3 shown, Christianity is a fantasy and God is ineffective or by no ability existed in the 1st place. One could evaluate nonetheless, that those have been shown and sturdy components have given actual data, on a similar time as additionally, logical reasoning and historic findings even have justified it to be absolute. One could additionally be attentive to that Christianity won't be able to be shown scientifically (and neither are you able to tutor which you drank milk the day previous scientifically) yet you could tutor it traditionally (by way of eye wittness debts, archives, dna, blah blah) this might additionally be utilized to Christianity which proves a God exists. i don't have adequate space or the time to bypass by way of each and all the three issues (TOO MANY information) yet for every person who desires to do added analyze and notice how Christianity is surely the and has been shown....you could examine "THE CASE FOR CHRIST" by way of LEE STROBEL (who became an atheist in the initiating and set off off to disprove Christianity yet what he have been given became data to assist it. have relaxing.
beradanicto
2013-03-23 09:44:19 UTC
Arguments on the existence of God are a dime a dozen if not cheaper, and resolve nothing. But it now appears as if all such rhetorical smoke and mirrors are about to be superceded by a 'Proof' worthy of the name.



The first wholly new interpretation for two thousand years of the moral teachings of Christ has been published. Radically different from anything else we know of from theology or history, this new teaching is predicated upon a precise, predefined, and predictable experience of transcendent omnipotence and called 'the first Resurrection' in the sense that the Resurrection of Jesus was intended to demonstrate Gods' willingness to reveal Himself and intervene directly into the natural world for those obedient to His will, paving the way for access, by faith, to the power of divine Will and ultimate proof!



Thus 'faith' becomes an act of trust in action, the search to discover this direct individual intervention into the natural world by omnipotent power that confirms divine will, law, command and covenant, which at the same time, realigns our flawed human moral compass with the Divine, "correcting human nature by a change in natural law, altering biology, consciousness and human ethical perception beyond all natural evolutionary boundaries." So like it or no, a new religious teaching, testable by faith, meeting all Enlightenment criteria of evidence based causation and definitive proof now exists. Nothing short of an intellectual, moral and religious revolution is getting under way. To test or not to test, that is the question? And I'm already testing the proof for myself!
capitalgentleman
2013-03-22 01:27:39 UTC
LOL!



So, what do want? I can tell you that I have encountered God for myself. I can describe praying, and feeling His power flow through me to a dying women, who walked out of the hospital the next morning. I can describe the joy of knowing Him, and the help He has given me through my life, and the things He has told me to do.



But, that's just me, and I might be crazy. I could then point to the thousands of people with similar experiences, some of whom wrote them down. Some of these accounts are even in the Bible. Many are not.



I suppose that is the best way - if you have not experienced Him for yourself, then, the experience from those of us who have.



One thing though - don't use the Scientific Method. That is an excellent method for knowing some tings, but, there are many other ways of "knowing" - in fact, there is a whole branch of study called Epistemology that talks about just how it is that we know what we know. If you are unfamiliar with some of these other ways, proving God can be tricky. It's like proving that a stop sign is red to a blind man.
Noah
2013-03-21 23:27:14 UTC
Religious people in general, not only Christians when they talk about their God are very very vague and if you on top want them to prove that God exists without quoting their books. they will have to come up with more vague ideas . good question
?
2013-03-22 00:01:29 UTC
That is as silly as saying, prove that science is true without using any scientific evidence. You have to weigh up the scientific, historical and facts according to the book that holds the claim of being inspired. So what is there?



Scientific support:

When the Bible was being written, there was speculation regarding how the earth was held in space. Some, for example, believed that the earth was supported by four elephants standing on a big sea turtle. Yet rather than reflect the fanciful, unscientific views existing at its time of writing, the Bible simply stated: “[God] is stretching out the north over the empty place, hanging the earth upon nothing.” (Job 26:7) Yes, over 3,000 years ago the Bible correctly noted that the earth has no visible support, a fact that is in harmony with the more recently understood laws of gravity and motion. Other scientific proofs are of the water cycle written hundreds of years ahead of it's time at Ecclesiastes 1:7. Further to that, evidence of the global flood so with good reason one of the greatest scientists of all time, Isaac Newton, said: “No sciences are better attested than the religion of the Bible

The science of mathematical probability also offers striking proof that the Genesis creation account must have come from a source with knowledge of the events. The account lists 10 major stages in this order: (1) a beginning; (2) a primitive earth in darkness and enshrouded in heavy gases and water; (3) light; (4) an expanse or atmosphere; (5) large areas of dry land; (6) land plants; (7) sun, moon and stars discernible in the expanse, and seasons beginning; (8) sea monsters and flying creatures; (9) wild and tame beasts, mammals; (10) man. Science agrees that these stages occurred in this order. What are the chances that the uneducated writer of Genesis just guessed this order? The same as if you picked at random the numbers 1 to 10 from a box, and drew them in consecutive order. The mathematical probability of doing this on your first try are 1 in 3,628,800! So, to say the writer just happened to list the foregoing events in the right order without getting the facts from somewhere is not realistic. However, evolutionary theory does not allow for a Creator who was there, knew the facts and could reveal them to humans. Instead, it attributes the appearance of life on earth to the spontaneous generation of living organisms from inanimate chemicals.

The Genesis creation account emerges as a scientifically sound document. It reveals the larger categories of plants and animals, with their many varieties, reproducing only “according to their kinds.” The fossil record provides confirmation of this. In fact, it indicates that each “kind” appeared suddenly, with no true transitional forms linking it with any previous “kind,” as required by the evolution theory.

The basic unit of living things is the cell, and the basic material that makes up a cell is protein. Evolutionists acknowledge that the probability of the right atoms and molecules falling into place to form just one simple protein molecule is about 1 in 10*113, or 1 followed by 113 zeros. In other words, it could take 10*113 chances for the event to occur once. But any event that has one chance in 1050 is dismissed by mathematicians as never happening. However, far more than one simple protein molecule is needed for life to occur. For a cell to maintain its functions, some 2,000 different proteins are needed. What, then, is the probability of all of these happening at random? It is estimated that it is 1 in 10*40,000, or 1 followed by 40,000 zeros!



History:

Time and again the Bible’s historical record has been substantiated by the uncovering of new information. The Assyrian king Sargon, for example, was for a long time known only from the Bible account at Isaiah 20:1. In fact, during the early part of the last century this Bible reference to him was discounted by critics as of no historical value. Then archaeological excavations produced the ruins of Sargon’s magnificent palace at Khorsabad, including many inscriptions regarding his rule. As a result, Sargon is now one of the best known of the Assyrian kings.



Prophesy:

The Bible contains numerous prophecies, many of which have already been fulfilled. Consider an example. Through the prophet Isaiah, who lived in the eighth century B.C.E., God foretold that the city of Babylon would be destroyed. (Isaiah 13:19; 14:22, 23) Details were given to show just how this would happen. Invading armies would dry up Babylon’s river and march into the city without a battle. That is not all. Isaiah’s prophecy even named the king who would conquer Babylon—Cyrus.—Isaiah 44:27–45:2. History backs this up.
PopeJewish
2013-03-21 23:22:45 UTC
There's no proof that god exists. That's why it's called faith.



Now seriously, this question is asked constantly and does absolutely nothing. I'm an atheist and even I'm tired of it. It's like two sides yelling at brick walls and trying to feel better about themselves.
Dylan
2013-03-21 23:23:03 UTC
Prove that evolution exists without quoting any theories, studies, or thoughts on it.
?
2013-03-21 23:37:24 UTC
**breathing**



Life. Can you get life from no life? Can you get life by accident? Where does life come from?
Calvin
2013-03-21 23:21:54 UTC
Chances are this question will be largely ignored.
Minty
2013-03-23 03:03:37 UTC
Theres something called faith.
GOOFY
2013-03-21 23:23:27 UTC
Y...O...U are the proof that God exists. What makes YOU so special?-----------------------------God did.
.,,.
2013-03-21 23:20:33 UTC
They can't. Lol
AnnaNatt
2013-03-22 22:03:39 UTC
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