Question:
Christians, can you agree with science when it comes to the Big Bang?
2011-07-23 06:34:30 UTC
See Heb. 11:3. What are your thoughts on this? Thanks.
Nineteen answers:
Arch
2011-07-23 08:07:24 UTC
First, my fellow Christians need to understand that the "Big Bang" and "Evolution" are not only different, but aren't even really connected at all. Evolutionary theory is about the origin and development of life. The "Big Bang Theory" is about the development of the structure of the universe itself.



And, as far as it goes, most of the theory about the Big Bang is not really out of sync with the Bible, especially the passage you reference.



HEB 11:3 By faith we understand that the universe was formed at God's command, so that what is seen was not made out of what was visible. (NIV)



Now, the BB theory also states that what formed the universe could not have been seen. As a singularity (not really "particle" as some like to say) it would not have been visible to the naked eye, and possibly not to any instrument we could ever invent. It would have had all the mass of the universe compressed into an infinitesimal space. Truly, it would have been quite invisible for the same reason a black hole is invisible ... light could never have escaped its gravitational field.



The difference here is the origin of that singularity. For the Christian, the origin of that singularity is the Command of Almighty God. For those who do not believe in Him ... well, the origin of that singularity is a big mystery. In addition, what made that singularity suddenly "explode". Again, for the Christian, the answer is easy. For the unbeliever, I'm not sure if there is an answer.



As you follow through the creation story in Genesis, you get a fairly good picture of the BB. First, God created "The Heavens and The Earth". He brings space itself into existence. Before the singularity exploded, even space/time, as we understand it, did not exist. God had to create this first. Thus Genesis makes the assertion that "in the beginning, God created The Heavens and The Earth".



But in Genesis 1:2 we see that the earth is still "formless" and "void". It uses the word "waters" and "deep", but I wonder if this is not symbolic of dense gas coalescening.



At any rate, we must remember that ancient Hebrew story telling is not as chronologically linear as modern, western story telling. Thus, Gen 1:3, which states "And God said, 'Let there be light'", does NOT necessarily follow Gen 1:2 chronologically as we modern, westerners would naturally assume.



Instead, it is just as likely that Gen 1:1 - 1:2 is saying, "Here's what happened" and Gen 1:3 - 31 is saying, "Here's how". This is quite common in Hebrew story telling and we see the same thing happen with the account of mankind's creation given in Gen 1:26-31, and then AGAIN in Gen 2:4-25.



Now, as to the actual account, we see light being the first thing created. Well, in BB theory, we know that the first thing released was pure energy. Certainly, "light" would be the best way to describe this to humans living in ancient times, and really quite accurate. The only difference between visible light and all the other forms of EM radiation (such as radio-waves or gamma rays) is frequency. Gama rays are, essentially, just very high frequency light. This makes perfect sense.



And at first, this "light" would have flooded every part of the universe. Only later did God "separate the light from the darkness". Some have theorized that this is when God placed a "speed limit" on light.



Now, some of the passages in Genesis itself require a non-literal interpretation even from a "Sola-Scriptura" standpoint. I'm sorry, but even without the BB or Darwin, Genesis ITSELF simply does not support a completely literal interpretation.



Case in point: A "Day" is one revolution of the Earth in relation to it's sun, correct? But Genesis records the passing of three "days" before God even MAKES the sun on the fourth day. So, an overly literal interpretation of creation simply is not supported by the internal witness of the sacred text of Genesis itself. There MUST be something non-literal being said here.



A non-literal interpretation of Genesis is nothing new, and dates back to ancient times. Even early Christian theologians, such as Augustine, who died in 430 AD and who was actually AT the Third Council of Carthage when the Biblical Cannon was established, did not always interpret Genesis literally. I have only begun reading his commentary on the matter, and while I don't agree with it all, it is quite insightful.



http://college.holycross.edu/faculty/alaffey/other_files/Augustine-Genesis1.pdf



So, when you ask, "Can I agree with science when it comes to the Big Bang", do remember that the scientific community does not yet agree 100% on a single BB theory, and probably never will. On the basic idea that the universe came into being in an instant, energy first and then forming the matter we now have, I don't see anything in scripture that would contradict that. I would only assert that the Hand and Word of God were active in every part and moment of it.
Othol48
2011-07-23 07:49:24 UTC
The Big Bang Theory is absolutely impossible. It assumes that something can come from nothing; and all science says that this can never happen.
Jeancommunicates
2011-07-23 06:45:50 UTC
Science cannot even agree with their Big Bang. Most Christians have never agree with the Big Bang theory.



Edit: Hebrews 11:3 KJV

"Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God,

so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear."(or which are visible)



The tiny invisible things make up the things that are seen.



And God holds it all together by His power.
2011-07-23 06:39:35 UTC
They have to agree, they can't just disagree just because it goes against their religion. That's like saying gravity isn't real, just because of something in the bible. It's true whether you believe in it or not.

The big bang theory has an overwhelming amount of evidence for it, and it accepted by every physicist in the world. Even if you've only studied physics in high school, you'd still laugh at anyone who doesn't think the big bang is fact. Lrn2science.
Solar
2011-07-23 06:38:56 UTC
what could they possibly say? They didn't have telescopes in those days to make educated assumptions. But even with all of our knowledge, we still don't have a clue. Look how far we have advanced in just 50 years. Can you imagine what people will be thinking 50 years from now? They will look back at us and consider us being primitive by their current standards. While knowledge continues to advance, in the end, it is all folly when compared to the wisdom of God.
gracemartinsen
2011-07-23 06:57:29 UTC
Absolutely not! Creation does not in any way support the Big Bang/Evolutionary Theory. In fact it was devised to explain all of creation in a way that eliminated the Creator. And as we know, the whole theory of evolution is based on "the missing link". It's based on something that doesn't exist!
2011-07-23 06:42:12 UTC
The big bang theory is a joke and disagrees with the Bible.



According to the Bible God made the world first. Then He made the stars and the moon and the sun. So, already the big JOKE theory disagrees. Then you have the issue of time: I've heard that the big bang happened about 4.6 billion years ago. Which disagrees with the Bible again.
Brigalow Bloke
2011-07-23 06:41:40 UTC
Half of them don't know what it is, but it must be wrong because some character who stands in the front of a church says it is. He would not know either, he has no more idea than a used car salesman, but he gets his information from a lie factory like Answers in Genesis.
liviu
2011-07-23 09:40:23 UTC
Not really. Although some Christians considers that it indirectly proves creation
Jordan Coyle
2011-07-23 06:46:29 UTC
What the belief that there was nothing and nothing happened to nothing then nothing magically exploded for no reason, creating everything and then a bunch of everything magically rearranged itself for no reason what so ever into self replicating bits which produced what we have today.

Makes logical sense huh? Follow Jesus my friend.
2011-07-23 06:38:09 UTC
Darwin invented the Little Bang. Big Bang is just evolution.
the re - chosen one
2011-07-23 06:37:10 UTC
Sure. The God Yahweh could have invented a big bang machine that went boom when He threw the switch billions of years ago.
Matthew
2011-07-23 06:37:08 UTC
Christians don't believe in the Big Bang baloney. Exodus 20:11.
Q
2011-07-23 06:38:00 UTC
Question?



Does God PHYSICALLY exist?



Hmmm...



Let me think about it....



If God does not physically exist, and nothing existed before the Big Bang, what caused it?



Nothing.



Thus, the Big Bang is false and God physically exists.



So, where did the space for the universe come from?



The Existence of God.



Here's why.



God physically exists, He is just physically different. God consists of Energy - the Light from which all matter is made. God IS E=mc2 - the conversion of Light into mass/matter. For all matter consists of energy, and is created from light.



The nature of God's physical existence is metaphasical, similar to the metaphasical energy that causes gravity - which, coming from the earth's core, is omnidirectional, phases or passes through all matter, and directly affects matter, causing the matter it interacts with to move towards the source of the energy - which cannot be seen with the naked eye.



The invisible energy that causes gravity is a form of light, and exists within the Earth, the Moon, and the Sun. In physics, like charges repel - which is antigravity. Antigravity in nature can be seen in the relationship between the Earth and the Moon, and between Earth and the Sun.



The life "energy" that animates all organic "living" entities is created from God's physical existence. It is undetectable by any physical instrument, and yet we know that it exists because it is absent in death. This life energy is invisible, and yet it is visible through its physical expression of the body that is seen with the naked eye - this is the nature of God's existence - for God cannot be seen with the naked eye, but God can be "perceived" with the minds eye.



To "see" God with the perception requires you to look at things differently to see things clearly. For the evidence of God's existence is all around us because that evidence is Existence itself. What you call science, is nothing but the study of the expression of God's thinking.



Athiests don't believe that God exists but instead believe that the universe was created from a singularity - a primeval atom the size of a dime that fits in your hand. If God does not exist, and nothing existed before the Big Bang, what caused it? Nothing, because the Big Bang never happened, God does exist and God created the universe.



As for Creation...



According to the Big Bang theory, scientists assume that the universe began as a singularity the size of a dime that fits in your hand. If energy is eternal and cannot be created nor destroyed but can only change form, and all matter which constitutes the universe is energy, how is it possible to fit the ENTIRE universe in an atom the size of a dime that consists as a singularity and there is no other energy there to add to it?



1 + 0 = 1.



The Big Bang theory suggests that the origin of the universe began as a singularity - a primeval atom. If the universe actually did begin as a primeval atom, where did it come from? And if the primeval atom did exist as a singularity, how is the Big Bang mathematically possible if 1 + 0 = 1? Which means that if the primeval atom exists as a singularity and there is nothing else to add to it, then shouldn't the universe still exist as a primeval atom according to this mathematical principle?



And if such a primeval atom exploded the universe into existence, how could it consist in the first place if it existed as a singular instability? - which means that the singularity was unstable and blew up (if this is the case, how long was it stable and what caused the instability if it existed as a singularity and there was nothing else there to unbalance it)?



According to the Big Bang theory, during the first milliseconds of the Big Bang, the universe grew to the size of our galaxy, which is light years across. But nothing moves faster than the speed of light. If nothing moves faster than light, how did the cosmos increase to the size of a galaxy in milliseconds in the Big Bang?



God physically exists. He is just physically different. Simply because you can't see God with your eyes does not mean that you can't sense Him or perceive Him. The part of you that can sense God is dormant because it is not directly connected to God. So you must look around you to see God in Creation - which is created from God's physical existence - in order to be open to the possibility that God exists.



It is here that you will either accept or reject the existence of God.



If you reject the existence of God, it is based on your inability to perceive God - which is the root of atheism. If you accept the existence of God, that is the beginning of your journey to ultimately experiencing God directly - and knowing God yourself (using the Bible as a starting point).



If you want to know God, you can. You just need to learn your connection to God.
TruthRevealed
2011-07-23 06:37:56 UTC
Sure. The theory was invented by a Catholic priest



"Truth cannot contradict Truth."
Gregory
2011-07-23 06:40:26 UTC
no god created every thing



the big bang is a science created myth
Ballfire
2011-07-23 06:43:50 UTC
Nothing is something & something is nothing...
hasse_john
2011-07-23 06:37:20 UTC
That nothing was pressed together so tightly that it exploded and became everything??? I don't think so.
2011-07-23 06:37:20 UTC
Are you dumb?


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