Question:
How can a son,a ghost and a father be one?
2009-01-29 14:59:17 UTC
They say that the holy ghost,Jesus and God are all the same one. Why would the disciples write this in the bible in the first place?I mean, If you want people to believe in Christianity, wouldn't it help if you didn't drive them mad with this concept?Don't tell me that "God has his ways" or "we mere mortals can't understand" because if we can't understand god's ways, why would he create us?
36 answers:
The GMC
2009-01-29 15:02:59 UTC
How can steam, water, and ice all be H20?



For since the creation of the world God's invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse.



Rom 1:20
?
2009-01-29 15:52:01 UTC
I am an Atheist.. but not so bias as to dismiss everything and anything related to religion. Think about it.



1. The fact that this may make no sense to you isn't reason enough to say it can't be true.



It would prove at most that somewhere in the history of the bible (it didn't start in english) someone translated an idea as mentioned.



If you would like a factual account of where, I happen to know it was a concept first introduced in England when King James collaborated with the church who comissioned 11 men to rewrite the bible for political/clerical reasons...



Even this though would only suggest that the Anglican church has a history of weirdness or confusing interpretations... and maybe you could form the hypothesis that they make things up.



Now



2. Assuming "the father," the son," and "the holy ghost" were one before the King James Version of the Bible... it would be in Greek or Hebrew.



If you trace the origins of the term "holy ghost" you will come up with a historical linguistic translation of



Holy Ghost [ ghost, i.e., spirit, a translation of Gr. pneuma =breath, air



Holy Spirit or Holy Ghost [ ghost, i.e., spirit, a translation of Gr. pneuma =breath, air], in Christian doctrine, the third person of the Trinity . The Holy Spirit is sometimes defined as the aspect of God immanent in this world, in human beings, and in the church. Jesus' promise to his disciples of a Comforter (or Paraclete, i.e., advocate), in John 14, is considered his principal reference to the Holy Spirit, and the descent of the Holy Spirit on the apostles and the communication of the gift of tongues, as recounted in Acts 2, is thought to be an example of the work of the Holy Spirit in time.



So this idea essentially embodies, breath or life (existence), the spirit of being and the "gift of tongues" that permits us to communicate it (that would be, in scientific terms, the human condition that distinguishes us from all other walks of life), and the infinite and vast universe which puts man in a state of awe and humility (that which some people refer to as god).



See it how you want. But don't be so stubborn that you don't see substantiation in what you assume without reason is nonsense. Not everything that ever came out of a religious mans mouth is stupid. It is the way we conceptualize this and how we incorporate it into our lives that makes the difference between a theists and atheists... it is a theology, a theory of the history of things... that's not the wrong of christians anymore than it is human to do so.



Frusturation is fine... but if you find other people's theories inadequate find your own rather then telling people how stupid their theories are. If you don't believe that god and the church govern your life then don't blame them for your confusion,



I didn't mean anything cruel by this, I just found it poignant to be frank. Questions are good... but logical and rational behavior isn't produced via skepticism alone... don't take anything for granted, of course, but even worse is to rule out something because you take for granted it is wrong... you'll never know if you really know what you're talking about if you don't set up some system of principles and stick by them.
2009-01-29 15:06:11 UTC
Some concepts can be confusing because of people telling you different things but the Trinity is the saying of The Father, The Son, and the Holy Ghost, the thing is that the father is the spirit (God), the son is the one who is of God, and is the example of God (Jesus) he shows the way to God, he is the living one of God, The Holy Spirit is God within you, when you live your life according to God, that is like the Holy spirit.



God bless, I hope this helped you!
Jesus The Son of God the Messiah
2009-01-29 15:12:21 UTC
Only By being God ! The Elohim is Hebrew and is plural meaning one and three in one in this Case!



Human Minds cannot understand the Devin Nature of God and the Trinity is one that is a hard concept for us to understand however it is and because it Is We have Salvation through Belief in the Elohim ,God the Holy Father ,The only Begotten Son of God and His Holy Spirit which indwells us by Belief!
Peter
2009-01-29 15:17:21 UTC
"You must be looking for these three are one passage..."

If you have read the scriptures,pray then you would understand.

If God chose you He will certainly teach you!!

Doubts aside ..it is our job t seek God wholeheartedly so we can know more and be found of Him.

I will share with you that the devil keeps us from reading the bible at times especially if it means a soul or effectiveness.

Great episodes of folly wil the devil do to keep truth of scriptue as God reveals to us through the Holy Spirit(Ghost)

The teaching is unlike regular teaching in terms of a short time of revealed scripture. Jesus prayed for the discip;les for understanding of the scriptures. Jesus is the Holy Spirit within us. Other passages of the God head are new testament teachings too.

Moses heard from God and many of the children of Israel listened to Him. This was the old testament of prophets and priests giving interpretaion and rabbinical insights of training in scriptures.

Jesus is the mediator between God and man that has meant we accept His covering of sin adn attonement.

The animal sacrifices of sheep, and goats are not part of new testament life sin Jesus payed the price of sin. The people repent of sin and God again manifests because He is Holy and unlike flesh and blood.

The ark and the clouds in the ark of the covenant were other forms of manifesting to Israel.

God was in the black cloud. His ministry differs today as the ark was his habitation cared for only by Levite priests.

The ark sojourned to many locations and was sen as a weapon as well as honour of God and the people that believed God.
XxRockerChick7xX
2009-01-29 15:14:07 UTC
First of all, they are not actually one being physically combined together. It means that they all agree on the same principles and that you can't worship one and not the other. Because the Father (God) is the ultimate God and Jesus died for us so we also worship Him, and the Holy Spirit is the one who actually dwells within us to bring God here on earth.



Second of all, God D0ES have His ways and we have our ways. The Bible clearly states that. We would be able to understand had Adam and Eve not eaten the tree of "knowledge" (ironic, isn't it?)



We cannot understand God's ways simply because of our sin. His knowledge transcends our knowledge by thousands of landslides.
maxxy621
2009-01-30 06:52:31 UTC
Father supreme Jesus is saviour and Holy spirit guardian. you know something cant be argued with its simply the law. if you dont respect law you know what to expect. you arent forced to believe anything here its you do or not. choose good or evil, life or death the ball is in your court! make a mistake in life and you will have to pay it. if you took time to read Bible then you wouldnt ask such a question or would you? take the right path to go to right destination or take wrong path to go to wrong destination. Why not be sincere to yourself and pray God to explain that to you i mean he there forever why not ask him. you know we break law in many thing and we feel superior but once government takes charge thats when you know you are owned by someone else and know their presence and their ability to punish.
arichstudio
2009-01-29 15:22:14 UTC
This is a great piece of scripture from 1 Corinthians 1 that talks about the method to God's seeming madness. It doesn't address the trinity, but it does refer to why God's truth (whether it be too simple or too outlandish) doesn't usually appeal to the intelligentsia. As Christians, a major component in our relationship to God is a surrendering of the intellect:



For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God. 19For it is written:

"I will destroy the wisdom of the wise;

the intelligence of the intelligent I will frustrate."[c]



20Where is the wise man? Where is the scholar? Where is the philosopher of this age? Has not God made foolish the wisdom of the world? 21For since in the wisdom of God the world through its wisdom did not know him, God was pleased through the foolishness of what was preached to save those who believe. 22Jews demand miraculous signs and Greeks look for wisdom, 23but we preach Christ crucified: a stumbling block to Jews and foolishness to Gentiles, 24but to those whom God has called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God and the wisdom of God. 25For the foolishness of God is wiser than man's wisdom, and the weakness of God is stronger than man's strength.



26Brothers, think of what you were when you were called. Not many of you were wise by human standards; not many were influential; not many were of noble birth. 27But God chose the foolish things of the world to shame the wise; God chose the weak things of the world to shame the strong. 28He chose the lowly things of this world and the despised things—and the things that are not—to nullify the things that are, 29so that no one may boast before him. 30It is because of him that you are in Christ Jesus, who has become for us wisdom from God—that is, our righteousness, holiness and redemption. 31Therefore, as it is written: "Let him who boasts boast in the Lord."[d]
lantern swinger
2009-01-29 15:04:52 UTC
It's very easy to understand.



Have you ever taken a science course? Is an atom comprised of three parts; proton, neutron and electron, but all parts comprise one atom? Are you not a body, soul and spirit? Is matter not vapor, liquid and solid? Why is it so hard to understand this basic concept?
mathiusdragoon
2009-01-29 15:24:04 UTC
How many faces does a coin have? It has two faces, yet it is one object. The trinity simply means that God has 3 "faces" or essences, but that doesn't mean he isn't one being.
P.Y.H. FOREVER
2009-01-29 15:07:00 UTC
Yes, it depends how you look at it, but if you do read in the Bible it will tell you what they mean by it. I don't know where it is found at the moment but I hope you find what your looking for in your answer. It is possible and true.
Just a Nobody
2009-01-29 15:04:50 UTC
Mind Body Soul = You.

This concept can be seen by looking at self
Tabz
2009-01-29 15:06:06 UTC
God also describes all his people as "a bride"

There are many verses in the bible that describe many as one, and one as many. And we cannot understand him because if we did, he would't be God at all.
♥ SJC ♥
2009-01-29 15:17:31 UTC
Jesus is all three. God is ONE. Galatians 3:20.
DZ
2009-01-29 15:16:47 UTC
your right..it doesn't make sense..



by saying that your disrespecting the immenseness of our sole creator by ascribing partners to his greatness.



Plus one disqualifies himself..



if you pray you are admitting that there is someone or thing higher than you..Jesus prayed! case closed
2009-01-29 15:04:18 UTC
the son and ghost are a gift from father
Shizaroo
2009-01-29 15:04:44 UTC
The holy trinity is considered to be suggested in the Bible by the Catholic and other trinitarian denominations. It is a Pagan concept that was adopted by the Catholic Church.
?
2009-01-29 15:05:36 UTC
I'm my fathers son and my daughters father but I ain't a ghost. As for the rest of your question, hell I don't know.
2009-01-29 15:02:43 UTC
I'm atheist but all this nitpicking in the bible that atheists do is annoying even me. Live and let live. This applies to both sides by the way
Bubbles
2009-01-29 15:05:41 UTC
I didn't know how to explain it, but I think this website explains it really well:



http://bibletranslator.com/trinity.html
?
2009-01-29 15:05:51 UTC
god said it

i believe it

he is not a god that will lie

and thats that
2009-01-29 15:05:20 UTC
I am a son, a husband, and a father, yet I am one person.
2009-01-29 15:04:22 UTC
Guy 1 - God is father of Jevus, Jevus is son of God and they are both ghosts. There...problem solved and now lets all go home and enjoy some desperate housewives!



Guy 2 - But that show isn't on tonight...



Guy 1 - What show?
2009-01-29 15:03:07 UTC
try looking at other religions like muslims or jewish people they seem to have better pricinipals not trying to be mean but espeally muslims when i studied them it all made sence





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V
2009-01-29 15:08:54 UTC
religion says it practically its like this and period.(thats why i don't get it)
2009-01-29 15:07:55 UTC
how can your thoughts, your body, and your spirit be one?
2009-01-29 15:03:21 UTC
It's perfectly possible in the spirit. Don't be so skeptical.
ladyren
2009-01-29 15:04:32 UTC
Smoke and mirrors.



And yes, your logic trumps the ridiculous.
AuroraDawn
2009-01-29 15:02:51 UTC
It's a quandary.
The Angry Stick Man
2009-01-29 15:02:28 UTC
how can a proton a neutron and an electron be one thing?





oh wait they can





fail
2009-01-29 15:03:02 UTC
that's a damn good question! xD
dinorapebotextreamactiongun
2009-01-29 15:02:10 UTC
By the power of stupidity we combine to make TRINITY!
2009-01-29 15:02:07 UTC
Only in the imagination.
2009-01-29 15:03:18 UTC
They can't be.
2009-01-29 15:02:10 UTC
There was a man who cloned himself then died.
2009-01-29 15:02:26 UTC
maybe they are from alabama. i hear that is normal there.


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