Question:
Attention Atheists: Can you answer this without evading?
Theatheist
2012-02-13 12:01:29 UTC
Ok here is the riddle...there are 666 atheists in a house.
Now...333 of them say it is possible for the Christian God to exist
But...333 of them say it is IMPOSSIBLE for the Christian God to exist
Who is right? And why do you think they are right? Since both of the atheists groups are contradicting each other.
Is the group of atheists saying it's possible right?
Is the group of atheists saying it's impossible right?
Since atheism contradicts itself...how can atheism be right?
What is your answer...which group of atheists are right and why? Please don't evade or I will type your name with the word "evaded" next to it lol
Who is right?
If you need help with how to answer the question watch this video here titled 666 atheists which shows the unanswerable riddle that atheists are stumped on
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPFwHr2txkw 666 atheists...who is right?

So far no atheist has been able to conquer this riddle..can you?
23 answers:
anonymous
2012-02-13 12:04:19 UTC
Either it is possible or it is not.



No number of opinions make a fact.
anonymous
2012-02-13 12:18:11 UTC
First of all, this question does not require an atheist: it is the work of a christian trying to ride in on his high horse and feel superior by inventing a riddle. Atheism is simply the disbelief in the presence of (a) deity/deities. If 333 atheists say it is impossible, and 333 say it is possible, than neither of them are correct until they have provided evidence for their thinking. this is where atheism separates from religion. we require facts to back up our claims. So both groups are wrong until they do so.



However, there are also different types of atheists, whether they be agnostic or antitheist, so it is sensible that there would be a difference of opinion. In regards to who is right, i'd need to know why they believe they way they do. And yes, in this instance, they are contradicting each other. But how many different forms of christianity are there again? are they not all contradicting each other in their interpretation of your imaginary friend (ie god)?



Ultimately, both groups need to provide a factual basis for their opinions, or atheists like myself really won't stop to listen to them. They are speaking an opinion which they have so far failed to support, so they are both wrong. kinda like a theist.



I applaud your attempt to try and disprove atheism with a riddle. very noble of you, though it really makes no sense. Its equivalent to my saying "australians are on the other side of the earth, yet don't stand on their heads. which way does gravity work?" Have fun writing "evaded' below this, i hope it makes you feel victorious to eliminate reason and logic



TL;DR: go home, and format a logical argument against free thought.
?
2012-02-13 12:18:00 UTC
Yes and I have done twice. Here is a brief version this time.

Atheists do not believe in gods.

Some atheists will say the Christian god is possible but that there is no reason to think that it exists at this time so we will assume that it does not along with the other 29,999 gods and even more mythical figures.

Some atheists will say a god is possible but that there is no reason to think any exist at this time but that the Christian god is impossible because of the logical contradictions - The god says it answers all prayers and that it doesn't, that it is the only god and that it isn't, that it is both all powerful and good to humanity but drought and famine claim Christian lives daily, that it is omniscient and that it can be swayed by prayer etc etc



Both are atheists - I think the second group is right but atheists belonging to the first group will still be atheists. Atheism can only contradict itself if it contradicts its only point - the lack of belief in gods. If an atheist claims to both believe and disbelieve in gods, you can tell them that they are contradicting themselves and you would be right. Otherwise it does not.
Proud Liberal
2012-02-13 12:11:11 UTC
Atheism is a disbelief in the existence of a God. A true atheist claims to not believe in the Christian God, or any god for that matter, until their is evidence.



True atheists acknowledge that there is chance in everything, and that although evidence overwhelmingly points towards the Christian God not existing, there is a minuscule possibility that He might exist.



In regards to your riddle: There are no 2 group of atheists. There is 1, and they aren't contradicting themselves. Those that say that is absolutely 100% impossible for a God to exist are not being scientific, which they claim to be.



Real atheists believe there is a 99.9% that it is does not exist, but leave a small percentage for error.



This is not evading the question, because your question is incorrect in its assumptions. The simple fact is that something requires proof to be proven to exist, and since the burden of proof rests on theists, and as of yet, since they have not provided evidence of existence, there is not reason to believe the existence of a higher being.
anonymous
2012-02-13 12:10:47 UTC
I'm honestly not evading the question here, just need some clarification. Which version of the Christian god? The "Everything in the Bible is the literal truth. Oh except the bits I don't personally like.", or the "The Big Bang and evolution by natural selection are the how but God is the why?" one, or somewhere in between?



Added



Stop evading my request for you to define what you mean by the phrase "Christian god" and I'll answer your question. Depending on that the answer could be either.
anonymous
2016-05-16 09:56:30 UTC
She is ambition incarnate. She will never answer a question that she thinks she shouldn't have been asked. She probably wonders why she's even having to go through this pesky primary process. All of America should just fall to their knees and bow at her feet in her eyes. That's what she's thinking about as she delivers that machine-gun like cackle at the knaves who dare to question her inevitable rule.
M
2012-02-13 12:03:52 UTC
Saying something is possible or impossible does not contradict a lack of belief in it actually existing.



It is possible that the sun will explode in a minute, and someone could argue that it is impossible for the sun to explode in a minute, but this doesn't change the fact that both groups believe the sun will still be there in a minute despite or because of the possibility/impossibility.





Therefore, either group is correct, and that has no bering on the fact that God doesn't exist.
Jamfo
2012-02-13 12:04:51 UTC
Atheism is the unquestioned belief that there IS no God or Gods. So your question fails on its face since you would not find a single Atheist, much less 333 Atheists, who would say that it is possible for the Christian God to exist.



Those that would say it is possible for the Christian God to exist would most likely be Agnostic, not Atheist. The two ARE NOT the same.



So, the answer to the riddle, at least when posed to an Atheist, would be the 333 ATHEISTS are correct: there is no God. The 333 AGNOSTICS in the room are free to have a different belief, that the Christian God could possibly exist, but they are NOT Atheists and do not subscribe to the Atheist viewpoint.



To lump the two together is just as silly as trying to say all of the Christ-based religions (Mormon, Catholic, Baptists, Evengelicals, etc) are all the same. All it does is exhibit your true lack of any understanding of the principals of Atheism.
Corey
2012-02-13 12:06:12 UTC
Argument from popularity fail and argument from authority fail. It doesn't matter how many people say something, and it doesn't matter if they're atheists. Atheism isn't a religion or ideology. It does not have tenets or make any claims. It simply means not believing any gods exist. Beyond not believing any gods exist, atheists can and do disagree on anything, including whether or not a specific deity is impossible or just implausible.



The Christian god, as defined by the Bible, is impossible. "God is love", "God is jealous", "love is not jealous", "God does not change".
ANDRE L
2012-02-13 12:06:28 UTC
'Since both of the atheists groups are contradicting each other.'



There is your error; They are NOT 'contradicting each other.'



The fact exists; There is no deity figure that exists. Matters of the possibility of some kind of deity existing are matters of *opinion*. Only matters of opposing FACTS can be contradictory.



Your Logic Score: F-
anonymous
2012-02-13 12:08:26 UTC
Atheist don't believe that any gods exist by definition.



"Now...333 of them say it is possible for the Christian God to exist"---- These are NOT atheist there agnostic.



An agnostic view is that god may or may not exist, an atheist view is that god does not exist.



Do some research before trying to bash atheist first.



Atheist do not contradict themselves, or not nearly as much as the Bible does.
Caesar
2012-02-13 12:12:11 UTC
Both are right...the question is about possibilities



Dumbest argument and riddle ever



So riddle me this how many Religions exist?...Now how many Christian branches exist ?..... Since all of the theists are contradicting each other? Is the group of theists saying it's possible right? Is the group of atheists saying it's impossible right? What is your answer...which group of theists are right and why? Since theism contradicts itself...how can theism be right?



I let the silenced temples and oracles of religion that are happily living in the myth section, speak loudly about whom was speaking the truth about invisible friends...
Pete
2012-02-13 12:05:37 UTC
I've seen this "riddle" posted dozens of times, and it's been "conquered" every time.



The first 333 atheists are really agnostics, whereas the second 333 atheists are actual atheists.
Stacey
2012-02-13 12:06:10 UTC
Simple: The 333 that think it's possible aren't atheists; they're agnostic.



Atheists don't think that it is possible at all, which would be the second group of 333.



Agnostics are open to the idea but are not sure. (neutral)
manuel
2012-02-13 12:09:10 UTC
Shock of God, I've answered this a few times. Several atheists have. You just ignore the answers.
?
2012-02-13 12:52:13 UTC
I first want to make it clear that I am a Christian not an atheist and I have to say brother that the 333 that believe it is possible for the Christian God to exist are not atheist they are agnostic.
Toke Lover
2012-02-13 12:11:42 UTC
can't watch youtube from work...



But, I will tell you the 333 that say it's possible aren't atheists, but agnostics. So, in fact, there is nothing to evade here as you've got a premise that does not work.



Your welcome.
anonymous
2012-02-13 12:03:37 UTC
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There, I've answered it in tougue.
Sly Phi AM
2012-02-13 12:04:11 UTC
Strong atheists vs weak atheists. There is no riddle. You fail.
?
2012-02-13 12:08:32 UTC
Tangible, verifiable, credible or irrefutable evidence or it did not happen!



Or proof if you would rather.
King Joffrey
2012-02-13 12:05:03 UTC
The second group.



Do I win?
?
2012-02-13 12:04:20 UTC
There are medications for your specific mental condition.
Siver ChaCha
2012-02-13 12:03:14 UTC
no, because I can't even be bothered reading the question !


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