Question:
Why do atheists believe in Relativity when it has been proven wrong so many times?
?
2013-11-28 11:21:48 UTC
Example 45) Scientists are unable to explain a June 2012 cluster of earthquakes in Ireland.

For all 48 counterexamples:

http://www.conservapedia.com/Counterexamples_to_Relativity
Sixteen answers:
l
2013-11-28 11:22:23 UTC
Conservapedia: the "encyclopedia" written by morons, for morons.
?
2013-11-28 13:09:12 UTC
What? Relativity has been definitely proven for decades. GPS only works once you program in relativistic adjustments. And what in the hell do earthquakes have to do with relatively? Relativity does not make geological predictions.

Look, the math behind special relativity isn't so hard. Go study it- you can probably swallow it in a few weeks if you have any head for this sort of thing. Then you can understand precisely what it predicts, and you can understand what would qualify as an actual proof or disproof.



Eating a pound of cake does not cause your energy to increase by the speed of light squared. This is true, mostly because the speed if light squared is not a measure of energy, but also because relativity does not predict this. If you add mass to yourself, your mass will increase by that mass. If you measure your mass in terms of energy, your mass-energy will have increased by that mass, multiplied by a factor of the speed of light squred. Both statements say the same thing.
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2013-11-28 11:47:25 UTC
Example 45) Scientists are unable to explain a June 2012 cluster of earthquakes in Ireland.



- And what does this have to do with relativity.



1.Computer simulations based on the theory of relativity predict far more black holes than are observed.[1] Indeed, it is debatable whether black holes exist at all.



- How typically fundie, Black holes being "observed" is an oxymoron and yet you say they have been observed and then say they may not exist at all, yet they have been observed. Then you wonder why we think you stupid.



2.The orbital eccentricity of the Moon's orbit is increasing, contrary to what Relativity predicts.



- That is exactly what relativity predicts.



4.The Sun is a perfect sphere



- It is called gravity, look it up.



5.Quantum entanglement near the event horizon of a black hole -- with one particle of the pair on one side, and other particle of the pair on the other side -- defies the Theory of Relativity



- You mean the black holes you deny exist? And the theory of relativity SAYS it breaks down at a black hole, try reading something other than fundie captions.



Dark matter mysteriously missing around sun. Theories say neighborhood should be filled with it, but new study shows otherwise



- How can what has not been observed, be missing. That thinking stuff really throws you doesn't it.



11.Despite wasting millions of taxpayer dollars searching for gravitational waves predicted by the theory, no direct observation of gravity waves has occurred.[13] Sound like global warming?



- At one time no one had "observed" light breaking down into individual colors. See what thinking and science can do?



15.The universe shortly after its creation, when quantum effects dominated and contradicted Relativity.



- EXACTLY what relativity says, again, try reading something other than fundie captions.



18.The failure to discover gravitons, despite spending hundreds of millions in taxpayer money in searching. While these tax dollars were not necessarily "wasted", the lack of results indicate that scientists need to revisit their hypothesis.



- How does the continuing process of an experiment contradict relativity.



- The rest were equally absurd.
?
2013-11-28 11:34:58 UTC
Just to start with, the definition of relativity in the above article is incorrect. Scientific criticism of the theory of relativity ended in approx. 1920. It is the basis for modern physic



How do seismologist use the theory of relativity. This is for my edification pleas



it was also a single earthquake. While the location and magnitude of this event are unusual, smaller earthquakes are quite common around Ireland, although they generally cluster in northern Donegal and in the Irish Sea between Wexford and North Wales.
Anti-Fireball
2013-11-28 11:27:24 UTC
I live in Northern Ireland (for the Americans out there, its a different country but we share a land border... so if there was an earthquake i would have felt it as we are such a small island im not Irish, im a British citizen and and part of the UK) and have never felt an earthquake or read or have seen any news article about an earthquake.
?
2013-11-29 00:25:32 UTC
The Pope, Catholic Church, Church of England and mainstream churches all accept the big bang and evolution!



Lord Carey the former Archbishop of Canterbury put it rather well – “Creationism is the fruit of a fundamentalist approach to scripture, ignoring scholarship and critical learning, and confusing different understandings of truth”!



Nice that Christians and atheists can agree and laugh together even if it is at fundie expense!



But behind the laughter is the despair at the fundamentalists striving so hard to destroy Christianity by turning it from a religion to an ideology!



Surveys suggest that 29% of American Christians are so extremist in their beliefs that they fall well outside of the accepted bounds of Christianity!
Alexis
2013-11-28 11:30:55 UTC
awlbsok - "Wow, first sentence of a Conservapedia article is deceitful!"



It's possible.



But it's best to always bear Hanlon's Razor in mind: "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."
?
2013-11-28 11:24:37 UTC
Earthquakes cluster in an area because fault lines trigger each other.
alwbsok
2013-11-28 11:24:58 UTC
"The theory of relativity is a mathematical system that allows no exceptions."



Wow, first sentence of a Conservapedia article is deceitful!



Yeah, I'm not surprised.
Tomp
2013-11-28 11:33:13 UTC
Do you have a satnav or a GPS device on your phone? Do you watch satellite TV?

How do you think they function?



Are you honestly saying that you believe that website? You have been bought and sold mate!
?
2013-11-28 12:45:20 UTC
Excuse me. You know nothing about what I believe or don't believe. With the exception that I have no belief in Gods.
Guru Hank
2013-11-28 11:52:55 UTC
So why does your GPS receiver work if the relativistic adjustments needed for satellite clocks are all wrong?
?
2013-11-28 11:24:50 UTC
Conservapedia, almost as reliable and non biased as fox news.
smchemique
2013-11-28 11:24:41 UTC
Relativity, do you even know what does that theory mean?
XaurreauX
2013-11-28 11:30:49 UTC
Lying for Jesus is still lying.
Black Tensegrity Warrior
2013-11-28 11:29:42 UTC
Forget THAT! how about that they have now proven:



1. THERE NEVER WAS A "BIG BANG" (Stephen Hawking).





2. THERE ARE NO BLACK HOLES (Stephen Hawking).





3. WE DO NOT LIVE IN A "SPIRAL" GALAXY, BUT IN A "BAR" GALAXY.



(GOD PUNISH Yo' Mamas! YOU "Scientists" were born in a Bar- not US!!!)


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