A question for Christians.?

Question

Would you leave a fully loaded gun in your child's toy box, and tell them not to do touch it?

Yes this is a reference to the garden of eden. If god didn't want them to eat from that tree, then why did he put it their in the first place? To me it just seems he was setting them up for failure.

Answer 1

Perhaps he is more arrogant than most christians care to accept:



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Answer 2

Christians are not the only who believe this, Muslims believe the same although we do not consider ourselves 'children' of God.



Several Biblical and Quranic happenings were specifically made or set up to be as a lesson for future generations (but it is obvious many ignore those teachings out of free will).



I really don't understand your point about Adam & Eve being considered like children. Are you suggesting children do not know right from wrong? Why would they be allowed to have sex if they were such 'children'? They knew fully well what they were doing which is why they tried to hide it.



They were still in paradise when they chose to do what they did, and you must understand and try to IMAGINE the things that are there and the temptations one might face there MUCH more than here on Earth.



Take care.

Answer 3

The simple answer is “freedom of choice.” In order to have the choice to obey or not obey there must be at least two options. In the Garden of Eden the choices were to obey me and leave the tree alone or not obey me.

If you revise your analogy you would get a better idea of what happened, It is not a matter of leaving “a fully loaded gun in your child's toy box, and tell them not to touch it”. A better one would be, “Would you keep your child locked in the playpen forever because you did not want him to ever do something you didn’t want him to do”

Also, God had already prepared for humankinds’ salvation before He made the garden.



Revelations 13:8 New International Version of the Bible

"All inhabitants of the earth will worship the beast - all whose names have not been written in the book of life belonging to the Lamb that was slain from the creation of the world."



Think about it along the lines of getting out the napkins and mop before you let a toddler try to feed herself for the first time. :)

Answer 4

Would you leave a fully loaded gun in your child's toy box, and tell them not to do touch it?

--> No, because it would kill him.



This question differs in context with the garden of eve story. If you are a situationalist, you would treat every situation differently. Thus the answers may differ. What I think is that God had a purpose for that and we wouldn't be here if he didn't placed the tree in the first place.

Answer 5

I do agree that Esther poses a very good perspective, but I also agree that God was setting them up for failure. It is the parent's responsibility to keep their children from the harm that could come from things that are already in the world, but God isn't just any other parents. He created these things that could be harmful so that Adam and Eve wouldn't disobey him, but he is all-knowing and should have predicted that they would. If he wanted a perfect world with everybody being happy (i.e. Heaven), he should have just created a world with only happiness and good things. A place where people can be content and not worry about things, and where the option of disobedience to show loyalty isn't necessary.

Answer 6

Google ALLEGORY.



As a plot device it's fairly simple and gets the point across that Man separated from G-d, not the other way around. Whether it is literally true (I have my doubts) is unimportant. It is not the same as putting a gun in a child's lunchbox, because in the story Adam and Eve are fully-formed (and informed) adults.

Perhaps it's similar to a parent placing candy in a lunchbox, but I have trouble with both the gun reference and children's POV.

Answer 7

I would take it away because a child is incapable of making decisions like that.



As for your reference to the garden of eden, it's interesting but you are forgetting something. Adam and Eve were adults. If God had taken away the tree they wouldn't have free will. Because they are adults they are capable of making logical decisions. For this reason if God wanted to know that they were following Him because they actually WANTED to not because they HAD to He had to put the tree there. There is a difference between what children and what adults are capable of doing (both mentally and physically).

Answer 8

God perceived that man would fail... That's why he sent Jesus Christ to die for our sins. God didn't set any one up to fail but he did set up a plan to save us if we did. We are made in God's image Genesis 1:26-27 so we can ultimately receive eternal life

I Corinthians 15:50-55 and live with him for all eternity. Read a bible and you will be surprised what you find in there.

Answer 9

Tough question...

I think for this question I presume I wont think... Many think it was a test, others say that the tree was needed for some other purpose... Either way, man disobeyed GOD... We cant change it or take it back...

All that is left to do now is learn from it... There are truly some questions that we will never have the answer to... This might be one...

Answer 10

"I'm sorry but your analogy fails miserably. In this world is much danger. Do you warn your children about not playing in traffic? I would hope so. Same with God. He warned Adam and Eve about the danger of disobeying His directives. They ignored Him and paid the consequences."



Yeah, but isn't your God "all-knowing"? So, knowing that they were going to screw up and that he would NOT be obeyed, why would he bother in the first place? Humans try to enrich other people's common sense, but people do not know the outcome. God, on the other hand, does know what will happen.

Answer 11

he gave them a choice



just as he gives you a choice to follow and seek out God willingly or reject God willingly



just as your government wants you to obey their laws willingly



you either obey the laws of your country or you do not.



Does the government set you up also because they give you a option to live in their country by obeying their laws?



If you don't follow them then you get judged as a law breaker and are fined or jailed or put in prison or even killed for not obeying the laws.



God gave laws and wants man to obey them willingly.

If not they can choose to disobey them but they get punished for breaking the law if they do just like your country does to you if you choose to break their laws.



It was not a set up no more the your government sets you up.

Answer 12

I am a Christian but do not view this story as one I should believe literally.



I believe that God has given us free will. There is a part of us that is drawn to doing the wrong thing. It is up to us to try to resist the temptation and to do the right thing. We know the difference between right and wrong.



The story of Adam and Eve is intended to depict that truth. We know the difference between right and wrong, and we are given the task of choosing to do what is right in the face of temptation.

Answer 13

By telling him not to eat from the tree, it seems that that was the surest way for it to happin. I think the hebrews call it the yetzer hara. the "evial incination" God put into man.

Answer 14

If God is all-knowing, He knew that Adam and Eve would eat from the tree, that temptation would be too much for them. Therefore, he expected them to fall. And yet, He placed the tree there.



Does this show that He is malevolent? It definitely does not seem a kind act to me.



It doesn't seem like a test to me, if you already know the outcome.

Answer 15

I'm sorry but your analogy fails miserably. In this world is much danger. Do you warn your children about not playing in traffic? I would hope so. Same with God. He warned Adam and Eve about the danger of disobeying His directives. They ignored Him and paid the consequences.



If a child ignores a parent and plays in the middle of a busy street....well...what do you think could happen? The parent can't remove every danger from the world. They can only try and teach the child what to look out for.

Answer 16

The bible says God dose not test or try any one, it says we are drawn away by our own lust. Satan waved this before their eyes and instead of listening to God their father they were drawn a way by their own lust which was wanting to know good and evil and know things. i hope you understand what I'm saying if not pray and ask God for understanding he will let you know. : )

Answer 17

He was setting them up for success by giving them advance warning not to touch the tree. Unlike the child, they were fully capable of understanding and following directions and chose not to.

Answer 18

Ester deserves the 10 points. :)

Answer 19

in reality, dont leave a gun in your childs toy box, thats a huge risk...



as for the Biblical referece, He put the apples there to test them.

Answer 20

or maybe he just knew this was going to happen and wanted it to happen. But u shouldn't take the writing seriously cos it doesn't mean he really did out a tree there it means he just told them not to something but they did it anyway.

Answer 21

I Have Same Question but on higher method why did god created world and let us live and have bad and good things in our life as if he knew who will go to heaven and who will go to hell ;)

Answer 22

Exactly. Especially since he knew they would eat the fruit.

Answer 23

It was a test. He was testing them to see if they would obey his commands. He didn't want them to obey because they were FORCED to, but to obey because they WANTED to! :D (He knew what was going to happen. It was all part of his plan for the world! ^____^)

Answer 24

if the government didn't want us looking at kiddie porn, why do they let us have computers? they are just setting us up to fail.

Answer 25

He let you live.. even though He knew you were going to post this question.

Answer 26

Maybe God didn't want robotic followers who just loved him because they had no other choice. Love would be irrelevant then.

Answer 27

so there is nothing in your house you wouldn't want a child to touch?

Answer 28

all religions have such stories

Answer 29

Depends...

If he is young he would not understand and it would be dangerous.

If he was older, it depends if he is responsible and don't do things like drink etc.

Answer 30

YOU ARE MISSING THE POINT ,,,,



THE ISSUE IS OBEDIENCE ,,,



NOT TEMPTATION !!

Answer 31

Are you judging God ?

He will judge you...

Answer 32

well an apple will not kill you....

Answer 33

...he was testing them you donkey