Question:
If God and Jesus are equally eternal, why aren't they "brothers" instead of Father and Son?
בַר אֱנָשׁ (bar_enosh)
2008-12-22 07:02:50 UTC
The Bible uses words to describe God that humans can understand.

No son is equal in age to his father.

No son has existed from the same point of origin as his father.

Since the Bible uses the terms Father and Son for God and Jesus, how could both be eternal?
24 answers:
seemorebetter
2008-12-22 07:32:36 UTC
The word Christ means "the one that God anointed". Christ is obviously not God, his Father is.



That Jehovah was truly the Father or Life-Giver to this firstborn Son and, hence, that this Son was actually a creature of God is evident from Jesus’ own statements. He pointed to God as the Source of his life, saying, “I live because of the Father.” According to the context, this meant that his life resulted from or was caused by his Father, even as the gaining of life by dying men would result from their faith in Jesus’ ransom sacrifice.—Joh 6:56, 57.
butterfly
2008-12-22 18:33:11 UTC
This question is a real eye opener which makes one truly search and dig but I know that God and Jesus are not the same the bible gives so many references to that as well as Jesus made several mention of that as well very good question that should help others think long and hard about that so much truth to that no son is equal at all to his father
EveretteDavid
2008-12-22 15:38:23 UTC
It's very simple,

The Father is God

The Son was and is God in the flesh

The Holy Spirit is the Spirit of God

That is why They are called The Holy Trinity.All three are in fact one.

If that is too difficult for you to get your head around then I would suggest that you get into some serious Bible study with a good teacher and all of this will become much easier for you to understand.

I too used to get confused over how this could be, until I spent some years studying the Bible with a good teacher and the more I came to understand the Bible the more I understood The Holy Trinity and how they are in fact different offices filled by the same God in order to fulfill His plan for the ages.God can be whatever He wants to be whenever He chooses.That is why He would tell us "I Am that I Am".

Is that too much for you to understand?If so, you need to do some studying and get up to speed with what the Bible states.

Now, I feel led to plan a seed and suggest a very good Bible Ministry that you can study with and truly comprehend what the Bible states.It is www.shepherdschapel.com

Give them a listen,and truly receive the blessings that God has in store for you.Or you can ignore my advice and possibly miss out on one of those "little traveled paths" that God so wants all of us to venture down.A word is the wise is sufficient.
2016-06-03 02:49:57 UTC
The NT Greek never uses God's personal name, that's why you will never find a verse where Jesus uses that name. The NWT is the only translation that uses "Jehovah" in the NT. As a rule, the New World Translation always renders "Kurios" in the Greek New Testament as "Jehovah" when it refers to the Father, but "Lord" when it refers to Jesus Christ. Wherever the New Testament quotes the Old Testament, the New World translators could tell whether to use "Lord" or "Jehovah" by noticing if the Hebrew word which the New Testament quoted was "Jehovah." In I Peter 2:3, however, they faced a real problem. The passage quotes Psalm 34:8: "Taste and see that Jehovah is good..." (New World Translation). In I Peter 2:3, they translated: "Provided you have tasted that the Lord is kind." Why did they not follow their rule and translate, "Jehovah is kind?" Read on in I Peter and you will find that the passage is referring to Christ. To hide the fact that Jehovah of the Old Testament is the Lord Jesus Christ, the New World Translation broke its rule and used "Lord" in I Peter to translate "Jehovah" in the Old Testament passage. Latin doesn't have a "y" sound, and Hebrew doesn't have an "j" sound. That's how personal names in the Bible that began with "y" sounds ended up with "j" or sometimes "i" sounds, and is how we got Jacob, Joshua, Jehovah, Jeremiah, Issac, etc., which have "y" sounds in the Hebrew. The 1611 authorized KJV pronounced God's name with an "i." Because the Jews revered God's name to the point they would not pronounce it out loud, they would substitute that word with Lord ("adonia") when reading it aloud. The Masorites, when adding vowel points, substituted the vowel points from "adonia" into the four consonants used for God's name. Most all Bible translations, including the KJV, uses the Masoretic text for the OT. That's how we ended up with Jehovah. Fortunately, God's name also appears in Egyptian heiroglyphics and also in cunniform, both of which have vowels, and his name was pronounced Yahuweh in those.
2008-12-22 13:26:46 UTC
The teachings of the Trinity is a false doctrine.



Jehovah is the only one true God. He created his son Jesus Christ. The bible states the he was the fist born of all creations. Which means he was there and was involved in the creation of the angels, humans and the earth.



Jesus is therefore God's son.
Blind Didymus
2008-12-22 07:35:59 UTC
+ In the Name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost. One God. Amen.



Peace mate,



Think of it this way:



God is like fire.



The Father is like the flame.



The Son is like the light.



The light is begotten of the flame but so long as the flame exists so does the light.



The light can not exist without the flame nor can the flame exist without begetting the light.



Likewise, the Son is begotten of the Father and each eternally exists with the other.



Make sense now mate?



Pray for me please.

~~~



P.S.

Whilst I have responded to several questions on Yahoo! Answers, I have never seen so many heretical answers to one question posted so close to one another by so many individuals.



I might commend some for their apparent knowledge in some areas yet they mingle their truth with error and so cannot be partakers of the Lord's table while they still partake of the table of devils (1st Corinthians 3:21).



The Holy Trinity exists and if anyone who claims to be a Christian does not believe in Him then the martyr St. Polycarp the last surviving disciple of St. John the Beloved of the Lord would condemn such a man as an atheist!



For those who claim that Jesus Christ is not co-equal with the Father, do you not see that you believe in more than one god? For how can Jesus Christ be the all-wise, all-powerful, eternal, omnipresent, almighty God if He is not co-equal with the Father?



Everything known by the Father is also known by Christ. When Christ spoke the words of St. Mark 13:32, the word He used for "knoweth" means both to know and to inform other people. As Christ was not to inform others, He rightly said that only the Father knows and informs other Persons (ie the Son and the Holy Spirit).



The Holy Trinity is Three Sacred Persons.

God is not one person who began as the Father and became the Son who then left earth and returned as the Holy Spirit. Or else the Father suffered death which no Christian has ever believed. Who spoke from Heaven when the Son was baptised? Who descended as a Dove? How could the Lord say to king David's Lord, Sit Thou at My right hand, if God were but one person?



Christ is the Beginning- the Source of all Creation (Revelation 3:14; 21:6).

Christ clearly claims to be the Beginning:

They said therefore to him: Who art thou? Jesus said to them: The beginning, who also speak unto you. (St. John 8:25 DRB)

Likewise St. John 1:1 tells us, In the beginning was the Word.
karen n
2008-12-22 07:08:08 UTC
They are not equal. Jesus was Gods first creation and was there when God created everything else. Therefore, Jesus is His son. Misconceptions happen because of the pagan doctrine of the trinity.
2008-12-22 07:10:33 UTC
The Bible says that God wrapped himself in earthly flesh and came as Jesus. They are one. "I and my Father are one." John 10:30. They are not seperate beings. The father, the son, and the holy ghost are all one. It is one person so age means nothing. You have to look at it like lemonade- You need lemon juice, water, and sugar and you can't take the sugar out or the water out or the juice out. You need all three! Hope this makes sense! Eternal is eternal- age means nothing when you are talking about eternity!
PROBLEM
2008-12-22 07:07:20 UTC
The Bible uses terms humans can understand. God isn't actually a "male". He is spirit, so He isn't actually a father. Jesus was God in human flesh, so He wasn't really a son.
Jereme K
2008-12-22 07:08:58 UTC
Because he was born into a physical body. Notice that he wasn't called Son until he was born. When John 3:16 says that he sent his "Son", it is talking about what people already knew -- that Jesus is the "Son". It's like saying that God sent "Jesus", but Jesus didn't get his name until he was born. Before then he (since the beginning) was called "The Word".
2008-12-22 07:07:18 UTC
God is the eternal Spirit [Father] who created everything. 2000 years ago he also began to exist as the [now glorified] man Jesus Christ without ceasing to exist as the ever present Spirit. In Christ God lived a completely human life and died for our sins.



God is Father and Son.



Christ was born on a particular day in history. He is God existing as a human. He is not a second god.
2008-12-22 08:56:12 UTC
I think it is quite obvious that either Jesus is not God himself or that God made a terrible analogy.



I don't think God makes bad analogies.
2008-12-22 07:15:32 UTC
Isaiah 48:11 Yahweh will never give his glory to anyone not even his Messiah. So no the Messiah is not on the same level as Yahweh.
spicy meat ball
2008-12-22 07:09:13 UTC
They canot be brothers because that is just a figurtive speech because god is almighty and jesus is just as powerfull but not equal in rulership thats why its said that jesus is gods son becuase he is made in his image just like humans
KitKat
2008-12-22 09:13:28 UTC
I went to a Baptist church for a short period of time that said "god" and "jesus" were the same person......
Light and Truth
2008-12-22 07:07:20 UTC
It is the eternal pattern, same as you Father son mother daughter.
2008-12-22 07:16:36 UTC
the father created the son. brothers do not create each other



but i can see why you said that, good question
2008-12-22 07:46:10 UTC
Thanks for your question.



Well. Jesus peace be upon him is a person as me as you as any man. But he was sincere to Allah the one who created us all. Allah "God" has created Adam from clay and that no doubt in it.



Allah has sent down miracles, revelations and messengers to give clear proofs He exists and more important, what we should do once we come to this realization.



Allah has sent prophets and messengers with many proofs throughout the ages for people to be able to clearly see with their own eyes and to be able to use their own senses the miracles and proofs pointing to the fact, Allah does in fact, exist.



Miracles of prophets and messengers of Allah have come to people through the ages. Moses (peace be upon him) showed many miracles to pharaoh and to the children of Israel. Plagues, locusts, water turning to blood, his stick becoming a snake, the voice in the burning bush and the parting of the Red Sea are clear miracles for the people of Moses time.



Again, Allah sent Jesus, the son of Mary (peace be upon him) with clear miracles for the people of his time. Speaking from the cradle while still a new born infant, creating birds from clay, curing the sick, giving sight to the blind and even bringing a dead man back to life, were all clear signs to the people to know Jesus (peace be upon him) was a messenger of Allah as was Moses before him.



But Christian people couldn't believe their eyes that Jesus without father. They forget that he was a messenger of Allah "God" to call them to unity one God (Allah). They forget that he was eating with them and drink from what they drink. How did they take him as a son of God!!!?!!! If he son of God, Do you think that God will let his creation kill him? Or Let him eat from earth instead of Heaven' food?!!!



To be without father is one miracles of Allah "God" just to test his people in that time. But Alas they said Jesus is A son of God, and many bla bla bla ... How can God who has power over every thing die? Isn't he the one who created life and death for his creations? Answer Yourself. O People plz read about Islam well from Islamic books even securely if you are scare of your people or family then see it's concept.



christ_muslim@yahoo.com
2008-12-22 07:06:31 UTC
Jesus=God in flesh.



There are also some quotes from the Bible that state that Jesus isn't as intelligent as the father.
Mr. Bad Day
2008-12-22 07:24:05 UTC
I'm not a Trinitarian, but come on...



You know this is a metaphor, right?
2008-12-22 07:26:02 UTC
As you said "IF"...

which they are NOT.

But, nice reasoning.
Rene
2008-12-22 07:07:44 UTC
Have you ever heard of sibling rivalry?
Ace of Spades
2008-12-22 07:06:42 UTC
Keep searching, you are not lost yet.
2008-12-22 07:06:30 UTC
Incest is not approved of.


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