Question:
Anti abortion claims?
?
2011-07-15 06:03:36 UTC
The Spirit enters the human body with its first breath and exits with its last. The Spirit is what makes the biological body a person. Until the Spirit enters the body it is merely a biological unit with the potential of becoming a person. Doesn't this nullify anti-abortion claims?
Seventeen answers:
Dave B.
2011-07-15 06:09:44 UTC
You would think so, right? I find it odd that the group that has the religious book that instructs that the soul enters at birth is the one throwing the biggest fit over abortion. Bonus irony: that same group is the one that tends to favor abstinence-only education, keeping teens in the dark about birth control, and thereby causing more unplanned pregnancies, many of which then become abortions.



I'm strongly pro-choice, but nobody likes abortion. Hopefully, the day will come when people are responsible enough that abortion becomes obsolete, rather than simply being made illegal. I know there will always be some unintentional pregnancies, even with the best birth control, but we could cut the number WAY down by properly educating people and making birth control readily accessible to all. Pro-lifers and pro-choice folks need to get together on this.
Lori T
2011-07-15 13:48:05 UTC
Who told you the spirit doesn't enter the body until the baby is born? That was true of Adam and Eve but they were not "born" as infants; God formed them as adults and breathed life into them.



According to the way you see it, an unborn baby isn't a live "human person" even 5 minutes before he/she leaves the womb. That's odd considering an unborn baby hears and responds to stimuli in the womb before he/she is born, even recognizing voices. Biological units belong in test tubes, not women's bodies....don't minimize the life of an unborn child to that of a lab experiment! The not-yet-birthed-into-the-world baby is a living, breathing, person IN the womb, spirit, soul, and body.



You've nullified nothing.
Gwennie B
2011-07-15 20:39:21 UTC
Also, this:



Let’s say we grant it that every three-day-old human embryo has a soul worthy of our moral concern. First of all, embryos at this stage can split into identical twins. Is this a case of one soul splitting into two souls? Embryos at this stage can fuse into a chimera. What has happened to the extra human soul in such a case? This is intellectually indefensible, but it’s morally indefensible given that these notions really are prolonging scarcely endurable misery of tens of millions of human beings, and because of the respect we accord religious faith, we can’t have this dialogue in the way that we should. I submit to you that if you think the interests of a three-day-old blastocyst trump the interests of a little girl with spinal cord injuries or a person with full-body burns, your moral intuitions have been obscured by religious metaphysics.



- Sam Harris
Panait C
2011-07-15 13:49:20 UTC
No, the soul is put into a body as soon it is created. The life of the body is given by the soul. So when that cell begins to split you know the soul is already attached to it.
?
2011-07-15 13:33:21 UTC
No. The spirit enters the body at conception, therefore your claims of nullification of anti-abortion claims is a moot point.
Daver
2011-07-15 22:15:43 UTC
Life begins at conception because the soul is created at the moment of conception, not birth nor some arbitrary point in between.
karateschnitzel
2011-07-15 13:10:47 UTC
Thats an interesting way to look at it. but at nine months they havent breathed their first breath and its a full blown baby. it doesnt take its first breath until the doctor pats it. do you think it would be ok to get an abortion eight or nine months along? or before the doctor pats it?
Eric
2011-07-15 13:08:43 UTC
you are making the assumption that those who may oppose a woman's right to choose are operating on reason and following some form of logic, although they have proven all too often that this is simply not the case. religion is a disease



agnostic
Þorleifr
2011-07-15 13:07:18 UTC
If thats what you believe then fine. Regardless of what others believe everyone has the right of choice.
anonymous
2011-07-15 13:06:01 UTC
In regard to abortions:



Major premise:

A human has human DNA



Minor premise:

A fetus, (at whatever stage of growth it might be), has human DNA



Conclusion:

A fetus, (at whatever stage of growth it might be) is a human Being.



You are murdering a human being.



Prove the fetus DIOESN'T have ONLY human DNA, & you can say that I am wrong.



And for anyone who says that a woman who has a miscarriage is guilty of involuntary manslaughter:



A woman has no control over whether or not she has a miscarriage-it just happens sometimes.



No woman CHOOSES to have a miscarriage!



Except for medical conditions that would cause the need for an abortion, how could a woman be guilty of involuntary manslaughter, when she has no control whether not she has a miscarriage?
i sharpen
2011-07-15 13:07:34 UTC
Wrong.

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JEREMIAH 1:4 Then the word of the LORD came unto me, saying,



5. Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; AND BEFORE THOU CAMEST FORTH OUT OF THE WOMB I SANCTIFIED THEE, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations.

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PSALM 22:9 But thou art he that took me out of the womb: thou didst make me hope when I was upon my mother's breasts.



10. I was cast upon thee from the womb: thou art my God FROM MY MOTHERS BELLY.

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PSALM 139:13 For thou hast possessed my reins: thou hast covered me in my mother's womb.



14 I will praise thee; for I am fearfully and wonderfully made: marvellous are thy works; and that my soul knoweth right well.



15 My substance was not hid from thee, when I was made in secret, and curiously wrought in the lowest parts of the earth.



16 Thine eyes did see my substance, yet being unperfect; and in thy book all my members were written, which in continuance were fashioned, when as yet there was none of them.



17 How precious also are thy thoughts unto me, O God! how great is the sum of them!

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Wolf Myth
2011-07-15 13:04:42 UTC
You have absolutely no proof of what you just claimed.
anonymous
2011-07-15 13:06:10 UTC
I don't believe in spirits so.
anonymous
2011-07-15 13:06:08 UTC
Life begins after birth or when the fetus is viable.
anonymous
2011-07-15 13:06:01 UTC
Spirits aren't even real.



You are talking about killing something that is both alive and human. But interesting straw man you have there.
anonymous
2011-07-15 13:05:06 UTC
I oppose abortion, that's all there is to it....Ms. John...
Rene
2011-07-15 13:04:28 UTC
Life begins at conception. Period!


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