Question:
Any freemasons out there? (or just anybody who knows about freemasonry/illuminati)?
?
2011-09-20 17:05:34 UTC
Hi.

Ok, so what exactly does you do? (you're probably might now answer this, but i just went for it)

I've heard the illuminati runs everything and plans to establish the new world order.

If you guys still exist, are not as powerful as the illuminati? Do YOU run the government behind the scenes and the illuminati was truly destroyed long ago?

I drew the star of david on the dollar bill all-seeing eye pyramid and connected the dots to spell:MASON.

Somebody please explain!

Does the Illuminati run the world? People say that it's all fake, but what about the NWO? Presidents have talked about it and thats what the illuminati wanted!

Do freemasons want to establish the NWO? I know the founding fathers were freemasons too.

somebody answer please!
Eighteen answers:
2011-09-23 07:28:36 UTC
What is the Illuminati conspiracy?



http://www.gotquestions.org/illuminati-conspiracy.html



What is Free Masonry and what do Free Masons believe?



http://www.gotquestions.org/free-masonry.html



What is the New World Order?



http://www.gotquestions.org/new-world-order.html
meat
2011-09-24 00:44:45 UTC
Freemasonry is the world's oldest fraternity and largest philanthropy. We donate millions of dollars and tens of thousands of hours every year to charities.



The Illuminati were a Bavarian political action group that ceased to exist 226 years ago.



Since Freemasonry exists and the Illuminati don't, we're at least the better organized group. Are we more powerful ... in what way? We're a fraternity.



Freemasonry doesn't run the government. If we did, it would run much better, cleaner, and there would be no politics involved.



If you drew a Star of David on the Dollar Bill, you defaced currency. It's unlikely that you drew on anything called an 'all-seeing eye' on the dollar, since there's no such thing there. Perhaps you meant the Eye of Providence. it's in a triangle over an unfinished pyramid. They're unconnected symbols. As far as 'connecting the dots' and spelling MASON, I find that very difficult to believe.



First off, you didn't draw the Star of David correctly. The letter at the bottom point of the Star of David falls on a 'D' not on an 'O.' Even connecting the dots with the incorrect 'O', you couldn't possibly have spelled anything. Starting with the 'M' and following the lines to connect the letters only spells "MN." If you follow the letters around the circle from the M in you can either spell "MONAS" or "MSANO." If you want to claim that those five letters only spell "MASON" then you need to figure out how an anagram works. I come up with MANOS, MASON, MOANS, MONAS, NOMAS and SOMAN. Who's to day MOANS doesn't rule the world? Maybe you've failed to find the 'real' secret society that's spelled out by making a crooked Star of David.



No President has talked about the NWO.



Only some of the Founding Fathers were Freemasons.



NOTES:



- There is no such thing as an "Illuminati conspiracy." The reason some people cannot 'give a synopsis' of the 'illuminati conspiracy is because you can't give a synopsis of something that doesn't exist. You can't prove a negative. Duh.



- "The Illuminati" by Larry Burkett is FICTION. Duh.
?
2011-09-21 00:20:13 UTC
Well I am not a freemason (woman here) but I do know some and I am part of a religious organization that is similar in structure called ordo templi orientis (way better in my opinion)



I know a good amount about freemasonry, and it is not "satanic" nor is it a place for powerful people to meet up. Though much of Freemasonry today is middle class men exchanging business cards and doing charity work, it was a valid spiritual system that many good people were part of.



Our founding fathers were masons but they used that spiritual understanding of the world to create a society based on the values of freedom. I don't know why today's Christians hate masons so much, they share some similar beliefs and masons believe in a higher power. (Hence the eye on the tower on our dollar bill, symbolizing the country being watched over by a higher power/)



I think the problem was that masonry always used symbols to help them understand the world. Some guy freaked out when he saw that they were using Baphomet as a symbol but he was wrong in doing so because the Baphomet is a symbol of duality and NOT satan.



While there are elite rich people running the world, I doubt any of them even bother with Masonry. You can read all the Masonic initiations online these days anyways. If that doesn't cut it you can attend a freemason initiation yourself because in Freemasonry you can watch an initiation and be considered an initiate without actually going through the process.



I guess people just kinda fear secrecy.
s0mewhereny
2011-09-21 12:53:30 UTC
Freemasonry is the world's oldest and largest Fraternity. While its traditions look back to earliest history, Masonry in its current form appeared when its public events were noticed by the residents of London, England in 1717. Since that time, there have been tens of thousands of books published about this 'secret organization'. And for over three hundred years, despite the good works done by its members, Freemasonry has continually suffered the slings and arrows of those who seek to use it's quiet nature against it.



Freemasonry's singular purpose is to make good men better and its bonds of friendship, compassion and brotherly love have survived even the most divisive political, military and religious conflicts through the centuries. Freemasonry is neither a forum nor a place of worship. It is not a religion nor does it teach a religious philosophy. For nearly three hundred years it has attracted men of high moral character who support the tenets of temperance, fortitude, prudence and justice.



Today, the more than four million Freemasons around the world come from virtually every occupation and profession. Within the Fraternity, however, all meet as equals. In fact, one of the most fascinating aspects of Freemasonry (and an obvious source of irritation for those who thrive on the seeds of discontent) has always been: how can so many men, from so many different walks of life, meet together in peace, ignoring political or religious debates, to conduct their affairs in harmony and friendship and to call each other "Brother!" It's truly a conundrum which perplexes those outside the fraternity. Laying aside petty jealousies and agreeing that issues of politics and religion are not proper for discussion within a lodge, the 'bones of contention' that so often divide are removed thereby making it possible for men of varying religious and political interests to meet on common ground.



Freemasons are taught to conform to the moral laws of society and to abide by the laws of the government under which they live. They are men of charity and good works and they engage in charitable works which have made them "the World's greatest philanthropy!" Their services to mankind represent an unparalleled example of the humanitarian commitment and concern of this unique and honorable Fraternity.



The Illuminati...I was under the belief that no one with any degree of education would believe there was a secret organization plotting for some 200+ years to control the world - and that the Masons were somehow a part of it. Boy, was I wrong!



Whenever conspiracy theory is spouted, the mysterious "Illuminati" (along with the Bilderburgers, The Trilateral Commission, the Council of Foreign Relations, and a plethora of others) are most often named as being responsible. Ironically, however, while many, many people can name those ostensibly belonging to the other conspiracy groups, the "Illuminati" is always left hanging as some secret, shadowy entity which no one can quite describe. Interestingly too, no one can quite identify what specific acts can be attributed to them - everybody's got their own lists. And no one in 235 years seems to have left the organization to reveal its secrets. Pretty powerful stuff..... (If you're not hearing the theme music for the X-Files right now, it's a CONSPIRACY!!!)



The star over the reverse of the great seal is a neat parlor trick. You do know those letters also spell other words right??



President Bush Sr. used the term New World Order in a speech after Dessert Storm was a success in it's mission. He was referring to the unprecedented number of countries that came together (the coalition) to remove Saddam Hussein's forces from our ally Kuwait. Simple isn't it?



AS Grey said below the only NWO the founding fathers (most were not Freemasons) were concerned with is the US, which at that time was unique in the world and they saw it as the way things should be, at least for themselves.
Gray Wanderer
2011-09-21 09:17:45 UTC
The Masonic idea of the New World Order can be found in the founding documents of a nation which was founded and formed on Mason principles, and doesn't include a One World Government. In fact, the Masonic idea of the New World Order is best spelled out by a single line in one of those founding documents, "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."
tentofield
2011-09-21 00:20:02 UTC
Freemasonry is an organisation with secrets not a secret organisation. It has nothing to do with the fictional Illuminati nor a supposed new world order. I am not a Mason but know a few people who are. You can read about what Masons are and are not here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freemasonry



and there are plenty of other sites on the web which are not conspiracy theory sites that will give you a fair picture.
Ami
2011-09-21 00:13:46 UTC
The Illuminati doesn't exist. It's conspiracy theorist nonsense believed only by people who feel like they have no control over their own lives and like to blame their problems on some big, bad organization that's supposedly abusing them.



I don't know what you're talking about with the dollar bill. There isn't any Masonic symbolism on it: http://www.greatseal.com/mythamerica/notmasonic.html



The Freemasons don't have anything to do with the NWO--which, again, is yet another ridiculous conspiracy theory believed by dissatisfied people.
?
2011-09-21 00:10:45 UTC
NWO and Illuminati are bull. And all of the Freemasons I've known are very nice people. Not really shadowy world domination plotting villains.
2011-09-21 00:14:03 UTC
Nope. I'd like to join one day, but they don't accept atheists. The Illuminati used to be a Masonic group. It was basically a lodge within a lodge. Then they were outlawed and purged. That's why they don't exist anymore, or at least outside of crazy NWO conspiracy theories.
2011-09-21 00:11:48 UTC
There is no evidence to effectively say that the Illuminati is real.

And free masonry has nothing to do w/ the myth of the the Illuminati.



New World Order is not a bad thing. It means that the world would be different. (IE the US changed a lot about how goverments work.).
SayWhat
2011-09-21 00:08:26 UTC
The illuminati isn't real... A LOT of smart people want 1 country not 100's. A country can't go to war unless there are more than 1? NWO is a good idea
zircon
2011-09-21 05:24:16 UTC
The Masonic Lodge are the ones in control of the world the Illuminati are trying to influence them Freemasons are powerful members of the masonic lodge (they used to have more control over themselves resulting more power then lower masons and the common man pre late 1700 odd

coincidence ) they probably don't run the government or control the president in fact the president has a fair amount of control over the lodge in DC which is the dominate lodge in the country all other lodges bow to them (most of them)
2011-09-21 00:38:41 UTC
well, certainly not ALL of the founders were freemasons. As well, by reading some of the things they had to say we can judge that they were not sold on one-world-government



http://oll.libertyfund.org/?option=com_staticxt&staticfile=show.php%3Ftitle=1941&chapter=124396&layout=html&Itemid=27



On the other hand, some did approve of some of the ideals of the illuminati:



"the first idea I have ever had of what is meant by the Illuminatism... is... Wishaupt seems to be an enthusiastic Philanthropist. He is among those (as you know the excellent Price and Priestley also are) who believe in the indefinite perfectibility of man. He thinks he may in time be rendered so perfect that he will be able to govern himself in every circumstance so as to injure none, to do all the good he can, to leave government no occasion to exercise their powers over him, & of course to render political government useless... that to promote this perfection of the human character was the object of Jesus Christ. That his intention was simply to reinstate natural religion, & by diffusing the light of his morality to teach us to govern ourselves. His precepts are the love of god & love of our neighbor. And by teaching innocence of conduct, he expected to place men in their natural state of liberty & equality. He says, no one ever laid a surer foundation for liberty than our grand master, Jesus of Nazareth. He believes the Free masons were originally possessed of the true principles & objects of Christianity, & have still preserved some of them by tradition, but much disfigured. The means he proposes to effect this improvement of human nature are 'to enlighten men, to correct their morals & inspire them with benevolence. Secure of our success, sais he, we abstain from violent commotions. To have foreseen the happiness of posterity & to have prepared it by irreproachable means, suffices for our felicity. The tranquility of our consciences is not troubled by the reproach of aiming at the ruin or overthrow of states or thrones."



--Thomas Jefferson; letter to Bishop James Madison (Jan. 31, 1800)



hope this helps
?
2011-09-21 00:12:02 UTC
The freemassons are the group of guys that rocked my house and did not charge me a penny.
?
2011-09-21 00:07:42 UTC
Yes, hello? Freemason here, how may I be of assistance?
?
2011-09-21 00:32:28 UTC
It's not like they are just gonna tell you.
blahblah
2011-09-21 00:09:12 UTC
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2011-09-21 00:17:46 UTC
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