Question:
How do you see the Holy Trinity?
?
2012-12-08 19:13:17 UTC
I know the holy trinity is one (something we'll never understand. Mayb if we're in heaven we'll know)
but i kinda have a different perspective on the trinity
Jesus- kind, loving, caring, someone like a mother or father who i can run to if im down, sad, hurt
God the Father - loving (because its said that he is), but also scary, terrifying, powerful, almighty, authoritative, someone we can go to only if we are clean from our sins. Kind of like creeping up to your parents when you did something wrong.
Holy Spirit- i dont rlly know much about the holy spirit. but i kind of see it as like a good ghost always surrounding us that's just there. (btw can some1 tell me what the holy spirit does?)
Ten answers:
?
2012-12-08 19:26:13 UTC
God is Almighty Father. Jesus is our friend and brother. The Holy Spirit is Their Presence in our hearts guiding instructing and comforting. The Holy Spirit is God alive in us.
conundrum
2012-12-09 03:47:39 UTC
When you start talking about " kind of like creeping up in your parents and looking at the Holy Spirit as a " good ghost"...

There is hope for you.. with a serious home Bible study with Jehovah's Witnesses to clear up your head.
?
2012-12-09 03:22:19 UTC
There is, though, an apparent separation of some functions among the members of the Godhead. For example, the Father chooses who will be saved (Eph. 1:4); the Son redeems them (Eph. 1:7); and the Holy Spirit seals them, (Eph. 1:13).



http://carm.org/trinity



The Holy Spirit indwells the believer and leads us to truth.



John 14:6 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever; 17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it sees him not, neither knows him: but you know him; for he dwells with you, and shall be in you.
?
2012-12-09 03:46:36 UTC
Triads of various Gods have always been worshipped throughout history. For example:

In Egypt ~ Triad of Horus, Osiris, and Isis, second millennium B.C.E.

Syria ~Triad of moon god, Lord of Heavens, and sun god, c. first century C.E.

India ~Triune Hindu godhead of Brahmā, Siva, and Viṣṇu, c. seventh century C.E



However, throughout the bible, those who worshipped Jehovah God were known to be monotheists, meaning belief of one God. In fact he himself says: “I am the Divine One and there is no other God, nor anyone like me; the One telling from the beginning the finale, and from long ago the things that have not been done; the One saying, ‘My own counsel will stand, and everything that is my delight I shall do.’”—Isaiah 46:9, 10.



It is interesting to note that no Christian worshipped a Trinity before the third Century so does it make you wonder why a Trinity that does not even appear in the bible only came into Christianity centuries after the bible was written and why did Jesus himself not teach it?



The New Encyclopædia Britannica says: “Neither the word Trinity, nor the explicit doctrine as such, appears in the New Testament, nor did Jesus and his followers intend to contradict the Shema in the Old Testament: ‘Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God is one Lord’ (Deut. 6:4). . . . The doctrine developed gradually over several centuries and through many controversies. . . . By the end of the 4th century . . . the doctrine of the Trinity took substantially the form it has maintained ever since.”—(1976), Micropædia, Vol. X, p. 126.

The New Catholic Encyclopedia states: “The formulation ‘one God in three Persons’ was not solidly established, certainly not fully assimilated into Christian life and its profession of faith, prior to the end of the 4th century. But it is precisely this formulation that has first claim to the title the Trinitarian dogma. Among the Apostolic Fathers, there had been nothing even remotely approaching such a mentality or perspective.”—(1967), Vol. XIV, p. 299.



What the bible teaches:

John 7:16 New International Version

Jesus answered, "My teaching is not my own. It comes from him who sent me."

(notice 2 points here. Jesus was sent by someone else and did not teach his own teachings)

But that is not the only time Jesus claimed to be teaching his fathers words:

(John 3:34) For the one whom God sent forth speaks the sayings of God, for he does not give the spirit by measure.

(John 8:28) Therefore Jesus said: “When once you have lifted up the Son of man, then you will know that I am he, and that I do nothing of my own initiative; but just as the Father taught me I speak these things.

(John 12:49) because I have not spoken out of my own impulse, but the Father himself who sent me has given me a commandment as to what to tell and what to speak.

(John 14:10) Do you not believe that I am in union with the Father and the Father is in union with me? The things I say to you men I do not speak of my own originality; but the Father who remains in union with me is doing his works. (this is used by trinitarians to prove Jesus is God however Jesus said after this that his disciples were one with him too does that make them God too? John 17:21)

(Revelation 1:1) A revelation by Jesus Christ, which God gave him, to show his slaves the things that must shortly take place. And he sent forth his angel and presented it in signs through him to his slave John" (If Jesus became God when he went to heaven, why did he make this statement that the father gave him what to say?)



I understand some feel that when Jesus went to heaven that he became God though was separate on earth but that does not make sense with the last scripture. In addition, Stephen was given a vision into heaven. If God really wanted to teach the trinity this was his opportunity but how many did Stephen mention, was it 1....3? No.... 2 separate individual

(Acts 7:56) and he said: “Look! I behold the heavens opened up and the Son of man standing at God’s right hand.”
Gomakawitnessofjesus
2012-12-09 03:27:27 UTC
i once believed the trinity was true, because thats what other bible believers teach.



however, where there are a half dozen verses that prove the trinity, (those that are used to teach it) there is a dozen verses that actually teach the godhead.



a boy once prayed in a grove, to know which church to join. when the Lord himself appeared and Heavenly Father appeared beside him and said this is my son, hear him. and when the boy asked which church to join, the Lord said with his own lips: join none of them, they are all "wrong".

they teach doctrines of men, http://classic.scriptures.lds.org/en/js_h



this boy grew up and later proclaimed the trinity doctrine is the imagination of a man. God warned his people through prophets, and specifically warned men who prophecy for money or with imagination. in these last day the LORD has called men to be prophets seers and revelators and he chooses witnesses also. when i was saved i believed what i was taught. but after about 32 years of being a witness on one level after another, and through studying the scriptures i am convinced the trinity is a man made doctrine. i dont believe the bible is perfectly preserved. especially in english, because there are no jots and tittles in the english language. and i dont believe in many minor things that the christian traditons have preserved as well. but i do believe we are all saved by faith in jesus christ. because of His grace and mercy.
TONI101
2012-12-09 03:37:50 UTC
As stated in the Catholic Encyclopedia, the trinity is not a Christian teaching. It was not taught or believed by the early church fathers. So to see something imaginary is impossible to do.



The New Catholic Encyclopedia states: “The formulation ‘one God in three Persons’ was not solidly established, certainly not fully assimilated into Christian life and its profession of faith, prior to the end of the 4th century. But it is precisely this formulation that has first claim to the title the Trinitarian dogma. Among the Apostolic Fathers, there had been nothing even remotely approaching such a mentality or perspective.”—(1967), Vol. XIV, p. 299.



GOD-(James 4:8) Draw close to God, and he will draw close to YOU.



(Psalm 145:18) Jehovah is near to all those calling upon him, To all those who call upon him in trueness.



(Isaiah 55:6) Search for Jehovah, YOU people, while he may be found. Call to him while he proves to be near.



(Psalm 14:2) As for Jehovah, he has looked down from heaven itself upon the sons of men, To see whether there exists anyone having insight, anyone seeking Jehovah.



(Matthew 7:8) For everyone asking receives, and everyone seeking finds, and to everyone knocking it will be opened.



JESUS-The son of God, not god the son or a part of God. Even the demons know that.

(Luke 4:34) “Ah! What have we to do with you, Jesus you Naz·a·rene′? Did you come to destroy us? I know exactly who you are, the Holy One of God.”



(Luke 4:41) Demons also would come out of many, crying out and saying: “You are the Son of God.” But, rebuking them, he would not permit them to speak, because they knew him to be the Christ.



(Luke 8:28) At the sight of Jesus he cried aloud and fell down before him, and with a loud voice he said: “What have I to do with you, Jesus Son of the Most High God? I beg you, do not torment me.”



Jesus is loving and kind but also a very powerful king.



(Mark 10:13, 14) Now people began bringing him young children for him to touch these; but the disciples reprimanded them.  At seeing this Jesus was indignant and said to them: “Let the young children come to me; do not try to stop them, for the kingdom of God belongs to suchlike ones.



(Revelation 12:10) And I heard a loud voice in heaven say: “Now have come to pass the salvation and the power and the kingdom of our God and the authority of his Christ, because the accuser of our brothers has been hurled down, who accuses them day and night before our God!



Jesus, when God gave him kingdom power, warred with Satan and threw him out of heaven.

(Revelation 12:12) On this account be glad, YOU heavens and YOU who reside in them! Woe for the earth and for the sea, because the Devil has come down to YOU, having great anger, knowing he has a short period of time.”



HOLY SPIRIT-A comparison of Bible texts that refer to the holy spirit shows that it is spoken of as ‘filling’ people; they can be ‘baptized’ with it; and they can be “anointed” with it. (Luke 1:41; Matt. 3:11; Acts 10:38) None of these expressions would be appropriate if the holy spirit were a person.

Jesus also referred to the holy spirit as a “helper” (Greek, pa·ra′kle·tos), and he said that this helper would “teach,” “bear witness,” “speak,” and ‘hear.’ (John 14:16, 17, 26; 15:26; 16:13) It is not unusual in the Scriptures for something to be personified. For example, wisdom is said to have “children.” (Luke 7:35) Sin and death are spoken of as being kings. (Rom. 5:14, 21) While some texts say that the spirit “spoke,” other passages make clear that this was done through angels or humans. (Acts 4:24, 25; 28:25; Matt. 10:19, 20; compare Acts 20:23 with 21:10, 11.) At 1 John 5:6-8, not only the spirit but also “the water and the blood” are said to ‘bear witness.’ So, none of the expressions found in these texts in themselves prove that the holy spirit is a person.

The correct identification of the holy spirit must fit all the scriptures that refer to that spirit. With this viewpoint, it is logical to conclude that the holy spirit is the active force of God. It is not a person but is a powerful force that God causes to emanate from himself to accomplish his holy will.—Ps. 104:30; 2 Pet. 1:21; Acts 4:31.
TwistedOwl
2012-12-09 03:18:24 UTC
Pink Floyd, Metallica, & Guns N Roses
?
2012-12-09 03:22:14 UTC
I see jehovah as the original enemy and tyrant from judaism.I see christianity as piggy backing on judaism.I see islam as piggy backing on both judaism and christianity.I see my monotheistic piggy back as empty.Crack the jar the pig is hollow.Maybe that's why all the monotheistic religions hate pigs.
2012-12-09 03:20:39 UTC
Right when I am praying, "Oh God! Oh God! I'm comming, baby--Oh Jesus!..."
cryptic_non_sequitur
2012-12-09 03:14:54 UTC
when you are a little older, hopefully you will realize how stupid that sounds ...


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