Question:
so what about the archeologist, scientist, historians, who have proof of the "fairy tale bible stories?
born tipsy
2009-12-18 12:45:26 UTC
what about the people who have gone and found evidence linking facts to the bible
while you guys sit on ur a$$es and deny everything because you let the devil fill ur hearts with hatred rage and jealousy.
you have no faith
what do you teach ur children
what is ur household hold like "godless"

what do you believe in??

and you know if it works out best for you thats good
but dont deny the facts that have been put b4 u. there are millions of facts to support the bible
but u cant see them because u are wearing the devils goggles

damn its friday and i am tired

i am ranting lol because there are really some stupid comments on here
a bunch of unappreciative people who dont even recognize who gave you the air you are breathing
so sad
Eight answers:
⌡Machine Head⌠
2009-12-18 12:50:32 UTC
About that air we are breathing I suggest you slow down and take a breath youself.
CJ
2009-12-18 13:07:07 UTC
First of all, there is no evidence available like you say there is. Some of the place names and some people names mentioned in the Bible are real, but that doesn't prove the more ridiculous claims. (example: the Harry Potter stories take place in England; archaeologists can prove England exists; therefore the Harry Potter stories are true. See -- it doesn't follow)



That said. There is zero evidence that the Bible is god-inspired or that it is inerrant. Quite the opposite is true. The collection of books known modernly as the Bible is full of errors and contradictions, not to mention several deliberate forgeries.



Most Christians do not even read or follow the book they claim to be their God's word. They just pick and choose what THEY want to observe, and ignore what is not convenient. Which is why they have no idea what their "sacred book" contains, or where it came from.



But, to begin with, the first five books of the Bible (the Torah) began to be written down during the Babylonian captivity (circa 500 BCE) when the Jewish religious leasers realized they had to start writing down all the oral traditions lest they be completely forgotten. In so doing, much Babylonian mythology was "borrowed" by those first writers (the creation account; the flood account -- see the Enuma Elish and the story of Gilgamesh respectively).



The rest of the books of the OT were written and added one by one after that -- including a bunch that were first included then rejected by the Council of Nicea (circa 400 CE); others were then rejected as late as the early 1600s by the translators of the King James Version.



Needless to say there are thousands of translation problems with each "telling" and each editing. This is why so many versions of the Bible exist, and why many editions differ so widely from each other.



It is not true that the Bible "has been proven 100% true over and over again", nor is it true that it has been proven "scientifically accurate". On the contrary, the books of the Bible contain countless scientific and historical inaccuracies, and is even full of huge internal contradictions.



For starters:



-- the Earth is not flat, nor is it just 6,000 years old.



-- bats are not birds.



-- Noah's Flood could not have taken place around the year 2500 BCE because there were already other civilizations in place at that time (see Egypt and China), and these were not destroyed by a flood.



-- there is no independent historical confirmation that anyone named Abraham, or Moses, or Saul, or Daniel, or even Jesus ever actually lived.



-- there is no evidence that a Hebrew tribe actually lived in Egypt as slaves for several centuries.



-- Many historians believe there wasn't even a town called Nazareth until the 4th century CE.



Plus also, if the Bible was the inerrant "word of God" then it wouldn't:



-- contain 1000s of theological problems. (ei. verses that contradict each other; the one god vs. the trinity problem; the law of the Old Testament being observed vs. no laws of the Old Testament being observed; not to mention the inumerable crimes committed by "chosen people of God" against others, including such things as rape, ethnic cleansing, murder, incest, slavery, adultery, the slaughter of entire villages, etc.)



In terms of deliberate forgeries:



Source 1: the Comma Johanneum



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comma_Johanneum



Source 2: Secret Mark



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secret_Mark



Source 3: The story of the adulteress added later to John



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pericope_Adulter%C3%A6
Specific
2009-12-18 12:52:29 UTC
You're correct, there ARE a lot of stupid comments on here. And you just managed to fit most of them into one question.



Nobody denies that there are historical events in the bible. But so what? There are true and accurate events in the Harry Potter series, but that doesn't make it any more true, does it?



Why is your bible any different from the millions of fictional works out there that are set in real locations or based on real events?
M
2009-12-18 12:51:58 UTC
So according to this logic, minotaurs and harpies and anubis and every other mythological figure existed because archaeologists, scientists, historians have all found evidence linking facts to their stories.



Even New York in the Spider-man comics is true to life for the most part, I guess spider-man is real!!!!



Sorry, but when creating a mythology to get people to follow (or any story to engage the reader), it is customary to add familar facts and events to make them feel part of the story and engage them more!.
?
2009-12-18 12:55:44 UTC
According to you Jerusalem is a fairy tale place. And tell the people at the weeping wall that the remains of the temple that fell was just a "fairy tale"
hadron
2009-12-18 12:51:41 UTC
1. I believe in reality.



2. The bible obviously is not completely false, but major parts of it are.



3. if you want to be taken seriously, use better grammar.
PROBLEM
2009-12-18 12:52:42 UTC
It is true that archaeologists, scientists, and historians come in all faiths as well as atheism, but no one has proof. That is why we call it faith.
anonymous
2009-12-18 12:50:40 UTC
Wow. Why don't you find a forum that is specifically Christian if differing opinions bother you so much?


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