Question:
Catholics if you will?
2008-05-04 16:50:44 UTC
Could you explain why the RCC goes against scripture and calls the Pope, Holy Father?
23 answers:
TIAT
2008-05-04 17:11:14 UTC
The Papacy is of pagan origin. The title of pope or universal bishop, was first given to the bishop of Rome by the wicked emperor Phocas



This he did to spite Bishop Ciriacus of Constantinople, who had justly excommunicated him for his having caused the assassination of his predecessor emperor Mauritius. Gregory 1, then bishop of Rome, refused the title, but his successor, Boniface III, first assumed title "pope."



Jesus did not appoint Peter to the headship of the apostles and forbade any such notion. (Luke 22:24-26; Ephesians 1:22-23; Colossians 1:18; 1st Corinthians 3:11).



Note: Nor is there any mention in Scripture, nor in history, that Peter ever was in Rome, much less that he was pope there for 25 years; Clement, 3rd bishop of Rome, remarks that "there is no real 1st century evidence that Peter ever was in Rome."

Concerning the pope' s title of "Holy Father," Jesus Himself instructed us to:



"...call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven." Matthew 23:9



Yet, the "pope" not only accepts the title "Father," but "Holy Father" as well, a title reserved for God alone:



"Who shall not fear thee, O Lord, and glorify thy name? for thou only art holy..." Revelation 15:4



It is not wise to assume a name reserved for God, for He will not share His glory with anyone:



"I am the LORD: that is my name: and my glory will I not give to another..." Isaiah 42:8



Once again, Catholic doctrine and Scriptures could not disagree more. As a result, you must choose sides on each of the following questions:



Why didn't God tell us in the Bible that He was sending the pope as the Vicar of Christ?

Why does the Bible insist that Jesus is still the head of the church, if He isn't?

Why does the Catholic church want the pope to be the final authority instead of Jesus?

Why does the Catholic church want the pope to be your teacher instead of the Holy Spirit of God?

Conclusion



Only you can answer these questions for yourself. And only you can decide which side you will believe - Catholic traditions of men... or God's Word?



"And ye are complete in him (Jesus), which is the head of all principality and power:" Colossians 2:10

"And he (Christ) is the head of the body, the church..." Colossians 1:18
polivick
2016-09-07 09:25:00 UTC
Yes, I am a working towards Catholic. I do think dangerous whilst, at Christmas and Easter, all the ones "two times a yr" Catholics pop out - however then I notice that it might be worse. It might very good be feasible they do not pop out in any respect. It's effortless for anybody, who attends Church each and every week, to visit Mass on Christmas, Easter, and Holy Days of Obligation. I on the whole marvel simply how a lot more complex it's for humans, who do not attend Mass most commonly, to get out and pass to Mass a couple of time in line with yr. We are not able to suppose it, on account that we all know what we might be lacking. I do not feel those "two times a yr" forms can absolutely respect what it's they are lacking. If they did, they would be at Mass greater than two times a yr. I am proud to be Catholic, so it is the entire extra disappointing whilst I see humans taking an "oh hum: angle toward their vocation as lay Catholics. All we will be able to particularly do approximately it's pray, and wish that they illustration we set will, in the future, encourage them to begin dwelling the Catholic way of life all yr circular.
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2008-05-04 16:56:34 UTC
HOLY FATHER:

A title of the Pope, in common usage as the equivalent of Beatissimus Pater. Signifies the Pope;s position as the spiritual father of all the Christian faithful.
Wolfeblayde
2008-05-04 17:24:51 UTC
How about looking up the 19 bazillion and 6 times that this question has already been asked and reading the answers of Catholics? Better still, try believing us for once.



If Jesus meant that no man was to be called "Father" in the spiritual sense, then both St. Paul and St. John sinned:



1 Corinthians 4:15 For though ye have ten thousand instructors in Christ, yet have ye not many fathers: for in Christ Jesus I have begotten you through the gospel.



1 John 2:14 I have written unto you, fathers, because ye have known him that is from the beginning. I have written unto you, young men, because ye are strong, and the word of God abideth in you, and ye have overcome the wicked one.



There were many men in Jesus' day who wanted to be known as spiritual fathers, but their lifestyles condemned them. They were arrogant, unloving, harsh men who expected their followers to do what they said, not what they did. Those are the false teachers that Jesus condemned when He said what He did.



The Pope is the spiritual father of the Church and watches over it with fatherly concern. He is responsible for the people that Christ gathers together from age to age. He is deserving of the title of spiritual Father.



That, or else John and Paul are both liars and in deep doo-doo with God. Your call.
gismoII
2008-05-04 17:15:36 UTC
You are making too big of an issue of this. As long as one is not regarding him as God Himself, there is no problem. We pay great respect to the President of the USA because he represents the US. We do not do this because of the man himself, who may or may not deserve this respect. In the past, some ot the Popes were so evil that we question whether they may have even gone to hell. We honor God through the man who represents God only. The Pope himself may or may not deserve the title.
Illuminator
2008-05-04 17:16:12 UTC
Isaiah 22: 21: and I will clothe him with your robe, and will bind your girdle on him, and will commit your authority to his hand; and he shall be a *father* to the inhabitants of Jerusalem and to the house of Judah.



Eliakim is called “father” or “papa” of God's people. The word Pope used by Catholics to describe the chief steward of the earthly kingdom simply means papa or father in Italian. This is why Catholics call the leader of the Church "Pope." The Pope is the father of God's people, the chief steward of the earthly kingdom and Christ's representative on earth.



Matt. 23:9 - Jesus says, "call no man father." But Protestants use this verse in an attempt to prove that it is wrong for Catholics to call priests "father." This is an example of "eisegesis" (imposing one's views upon a passage) as opposed to "exegesis" (drawing out the meaning of the passage from its context). In this verse, Jesus was discouraging His followers from elevating the scribes and Pharisees to the titles of “fathers” and “rabbis” because they were hypocrites. Jesus *warns* us *not *to *elevate* anyone* to* the* level *of* our *heavenly *Father.



Catholics DO NOT elevate the priest to the level of God, and St. Paul doesn't either.

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1 Cor. 4:15 - Paul writes, "I became your father in Christ Jesus."



If Paul, inspired by the Holy Spirit, calls himself "father", the real question is, why do Protestants go against scripture by abolishing the priesthood?



Acts 7:2; 22:1,1 John 2:13 - elders of the Church are called "fathers." Who goes against scripture?



"Holy" in "Holy Father" describes the office, not the person. He goes to the toilet like everybody else.



Matt. 23:8 – in this teaching, Jesus also says not to call anyone teacher or rabbi as well. But don’t Protestants call their teachers “teacher?” What about this commandment of Jesus? When Protestants say “call no man father,” they must also argue that we cannot call any man teacher either.



Judges 17:10; 18:19 - priesthood and fatherhood have always been identified together. Fatherhood literally means "communicating one's nature," and just as biological fathers communicate their nature to their children, so do spiritual fathers communicate the nature of God to us, their children, through (hopefully) teaching and example.
2008-05-04 16:53:52 UTC
Because the Christians' bible says so many contradictory things that it's impossible to avoid going against some of them.



And as for the Hebrew scriptures - well, let me punt on that.







Zvi the Fiddler
2008-05-04 18:28:47 UTC
We do not always interpret the Bible literally. If we were to interpret that passage literally that means I also cannot call my biolopgical father father.



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"Do not call anyone on earth your father; for One is you Father, He who is in heaven. And do not be called teachers; for One is your Teacher, the Christ." (Matthew 23:9-10)



Jesus is saying that there is only one Father, One Creator, and all fatherhood comes from Him. "For this reason I bow my knees to the Father of Our Lord Jesus Christ, from whom the whole family in heaven and earth is named." (Ephesians 3:14-15)

We are all members of God's family. We call Him "Our Father."



What does Paul say about this?



"As you know how we exhorted, and comforted, and charged every one of you, as a father does his own children." (1 Thessalonians 2:11)



"I do not write these things to shame you, but as my beloved children I warn you. For though you may have ten thousand instructors in Christ, yet you do not have many fathers; for in Christ Jesus I have begotten you through the gospel. Therefore I urge you, imitate me. For this reason I have sent Timothy to you, who is my beloved and faithful son in the Lord, who will remind you of my ways in Christ, as I teach everywhere in every church." (1 Corinthians 4:14-17)



"To Timothy, a true son in the faith..." (1 Timothy 1:2)

"I appeal to you for my son Onesimus, whom I have begotten while in my chains." (Philemon 1:10)



In the above passages Paul considers himself a spiritual father. The priest is a spiritual father in the same way - he gives spiritual life to his people, that is, when he baptizes them, forgives their sins, preaches the Gospel to them, etc.



If we take Jesus' statement exactly as it is, "Do not call anyone on earth your father", then we cannot call our biological father by the name of father either. On an application form for a job or credit, etc., we do not put down "God" in the space which says "Father's name?".

Jesus also tells us that we should not be called teachers. But we have all heard the terms "Sunday School Teachers," and we accept that. When we ask a child, "Who is your teacher?", we do not expect the child to reply, "I have only one teacher, the Messiah."



In Acts 7:2-53 Stephen addressed the council. He used the word "father(s)" 17 times. Stephen knew what Jesus had said about "father," and yet he used the word. Stephen knew what Jesus meant.



What does history tell us?



From earliest times, bishops were called "father" because they ordained priests, thus they "beget fathers to the Church." (Ephiphanius: d.403). St. Jerome (A.D. 331-402) says that bishops should be content that they are "father" and not "lord."

The heads of monasteries were called "father" - the word "Abbot" coming from "Abba" which is a familiar word for "father." - scborromeo.org
2008-05-04 17:22:28 UTC
"Holy Father" is used one time in the Bible -- in John, chapter 17, where Jesus addressed God with that term.



The title I most object to, and one of the reasons I left the Catholic church, was "Vicar of Christ." The word "vicar" means "substitute." Christ has no substitute.
Rosie
2008-05-04 16:59:18 UTC
How does that go against scripture?



1 Corinthians 4:15: "For though you have countless guides in Christ, you do not have many fathers. For I became your father in Christ Jesus through the gospel."



Paul calls himself father,, what's the difference?
2008-05-04 16:54:25 UTC
I'm not Catholic, but I believe I can answer your question. But it will be with a question.



I take it you believe in "personal interpretation of scripture", and that whomever has the right to interpret as they see fit. Why do you not accept the Pope's interpretation? If I am to accept yours, surely I must accept his as well.
2008-05-04 21:00:13 UTC
Jesus also said we should pluck out our eyes and cut off our arms, if they cause us to sin.



How many arms and eyes do you have left?
Farsight
2008-05-04 16:59:08 UTC
*drink*



Why do you go against scripture, and call your own dad "father"?



The verse is non literal. So no one's going against scripture. It's saying that we are not to raise any person up as though they were our heavenly father.



edit in - if we were playing a literal drinking game, we'd all be drunk right now, considering the multitude of asinine questions you're trying to ask. One question at a time, dude. Ask them separately. You think you're "gettin' us good" when you ask a bunch of questions and we don't respond to them all, but really we're just annoyed with your obvious rant. Slow down, there cheif. There's a good answer for all of it if you just take the time to ask one at a time and listen to the answers.
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2008-05-04 16:55:37 UTC
Its because they esteem creeds higher than the bible....I said to catholics yesterday that the worshiping of mary, the exhortations of praying to saints, and worshiping statues is entirely foreign to the bible.......if you give someone a bible and leave them with that, if they really believe the bible they would in all probability look more like a protestant than a catholic....and I challenge people to read stories where someone only had a bible to go by, they will see I am right
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2008-05-04 17:05:15 UTC
Err hello what do you call your father??? by his name?? no you call him father right!



The scripture you refer to call no man your father is referring to call no man your God our father in heaven!, there is a difference between father and FATHER!
Karenita
2008-05-04 17:53:48 UTC
Army Ranger is right.
Marty
2008-05-04 16:57:52 UTC
hum guess you never read your protie versions try Paul he was also called Father and said for others to be called father but i guess you glanced over that



and this too but there are many more scriptures that back it



Did Abraham belong to a Cult he let people call him Father against what is taught in Mathew 23





Who said: Ye men, brethren and fathers, hear. The God of glory appeared to our father Abraham, when he was in Mesopotamia, before he dwelt in Charan





16:24. And he cried and said: Father Abraham, have mercy on me and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water to cool my tongue: for I am tormented in this flame.



16:27. And he said: Then, father, I beseech thee that thou wouldst send him to my father's house, for I have five brethren,



16:30. But he said: No, father Abraham: but if one went to them from the dead, they will do penance.
Daver
2008-05-04 20:08:19 UTC
The Elders of the Church are Called "Fathers" and the Faithful "Children"

Matt. 23:9 - Jesus says, "call no man father." But Protestants use this verse in an attempt to prove that it is wrong for Catholics to call priests "father." This is an example of "eisegesis" (imposing one's views upon a passage) as opposed to "exegesis" (drawing out the meaning of the passage from its context). In this verse, Jesus was discouraging His followers from elevating the scribes and Pharisees to the titles of “fathers” and “rabbis” because they were hypocrites. Jesus warns us not to elevate anyone to the level of our heavenly Father.



Matt. 23:8 – in this teaching, Jesus also says not to call anyone teacher or rabbi as well. But don’t Protestants call their teachers “teacher?” What about this commandment of Jesus? When Protestants say “call no man father,” they must also argue that we cannot call any man teacher either.



Judges 17:10; 18:19 - priesthood and fatherhood have always been identified together. Fatherhood literally means "communicating one's nature," and just as biological fathers communicate their nature to their children, so do spiritual fathers communicate the nature of God to us, their children, through (hopefully) teaching and example.



Eph. 3:14-15 - every family in heaven and on earth is named from the "Father." We are fathers in the Father.



Acts 7:2; 22:1,1 John 2:13 - elders of the Church are called "fathers." Therefore, we should ask the question, "Why don't Protestants call their pastors "father?"



1 Cor. 4:15 - Paul writes, "I became your father in Christ Jesus."



1 Cor. 4:17 - Paul calls Bishop Timothy a beloved and faithful "child" in the Lord.



2 Cor. 12:14 - Paul describes his role as parent over his "children" the Corinthians.



Phil. 2:22 - Paul calls Timothy's service to him as a son serves a "father."



1 Thess. 2:11- Paul compares the Church elders' ministry to the people like a father with his children.



1 Tim. 1:2,18; 2 Tim. 1:2-3 - Paul calls Timothy his true "child" in the faith and his son.



Titus 1:4 - Paul calls Titus his true "child" in a common faith. Priests are our spiritual fathers in the family of God.



Philemon 10 - Paul says he has become the "father" of Onesimus.



Heb. 12:7,9 - emphasizes our earthly "fathers." But these are not just biological but also spiritual (the priests of the Church).



1 Peter 5:13 - Peter refers to himself as father by calling Mark his "son."



1 John 2:1,13,14 - John calls the elders of the Church "fathers."



1 John 2:1,18,28; 3:18; 5:21; 3 John 4 - John calls members of the Church "children."



1 Macc. 2:65 - Mattathias the priest tells his sons that Simeon will be their "father."



The Lord, Mary, the Apostles and Others Refer to Spiritual Leaders as "Fathers"

Matt. 3:9; Luke 3:8 - Jesus refers to Abraham as our "father."



Mark 11:10 - the people cried out blessed is the kingdom of our "father" David that is coming!



Luke 1:32 - God's angel says Jesus will be great and be given the throne of his "father" David.



Luke 1:55 - Mary says that He spoke to our "fathers," to Abraham and to his posterity for ever.



Luke 1:73 - Zechariah says the oath which he swore to our "father" Abraham.



Luke 16:24,30 - Jesus, in His parable about the rich man, says our "father" Abraham.



John 4:12 - the Samaritan woman asks Jesus if He is greater than our "father" Jacob.



John 7:22 - Jesus refers to the "fathers" who gave the Jews the practice of circumcision.



John 8:56 - Jesus tells the Jews your "Father" Abraham rejoiced that he was to see my day.



Acts 3:13,25; 5:30 - Peter teaches that the God of our "fathers" glorified His servant Jesus and raised Him to life.



Acts 4:25 - Peter and John pray to God and refer to our "father" David.



Acts 7:11-12, 15,19,38,44-45,51-52 - Stephen refers to our "fathers" in the faith.



Acts 7:32 - Stephen calls God the God of our "fathers."



Acts 13:17,32,36; 24:14; 26:6; 28:17,25 - Paul also refers to the God of our "fathers" in the faith.



Acts 22:3 - Paul says he was educated according to the strict law of our "fathers."



Acts 22:14 - Ananias says the God of our "fathers."



Rom. 4:1 - Paul calls Abraham our "forefather."



Rom. 4:16-17 - Paul says that Abraham is the "father" of us all and the "father" of many nations.



Rom. 9:10 - Paul calls Isaac, a spiritual leader, our "forefather."



1 Cor. 10:1 - Paul says that our "fathers" were all under the cloud, referring to the Old Testament spiritual leaders.



Gal. 1:14 - Paul says that he was zealous for the tradition of his "fathers."



2 Tim. 1:3 - Paul thanks God whom he serves with a clear conscience as did his "fathers" in faith.



Heb. 1:1 - the author says God spoke of old to our "fathers."



Heb. 3:9 - the Holy Spirit says that your "fathers" put me to the test.



Heb. 8:9 - God says not like the covenant that I made with their "fathers."



James 2:21 - James says was not our "father" Abraham justified by works when he offered his son Isaac?



1 Peter 1:18 - Peter says you were ransomed from the futile ways inherited from your "fathers."



2 Peter 3:4 - Peter says ever since the "fathers" fell asleep, all things have continued as they were from the beginning.



Other Examples Where Jesus Uses the Word "Father" When Teaching

Matt. 15:4-5; 19:19 - Jesus uses "father" when He teaches God's commandment to "Honor your father and your mother."



Mark 7:10-12; Luke 18:20 - these are more examples of Jesus using "father" when teaching about honoring our fathers and mothers.



Eph. 6:2,4 - Paul also teaches to honor your "father" and mother, and says "fathers," do not provoke your children.



Matt. 10:21; 35,37; Mark 13:12 - Jesus says "father" will deliver up his child in the last days.



Matt. 19:5; Mark 10:7,19 - Jesus says a man shall leave his "father" and mother and be joined to his wife. See also Eph. 5:31.



Matt. 19:29; Mark 10:29-30 - Jesus says whoever has left mother or "father" for His sake shall receive a hundredfold.



Matt. 21:31 - Jesus uses "father" when he teaches about the parable of the two sons and asks, "who did the will of his "father?"



Luke 6:23,26 - Jesus speaks about reward and punishment with reference to what their "fathers" did to the prophets.



Luke 11:11 - Jesus says what "father" among you will give his child a serpent when he asks for a fish.



Luke 11:47-48 - Jesus tells the lawyers they are witnesses to the deeds of their "fathers."



Luke 14:26 - Jesus says we must leave our "fathers" and mothers and come to him, or we cannot be His disciple.



Luke 15:12,17-18,20-22,27-29 - Jesus repeatedly uses "father" when teaching about the prodigal son.



Luke 16:27 - Jesus uses "father" when teaching about the rich man in purgatory.



John 6:49,58 - Jesus says your "fathers" ate the manna in the wilderness and died.
Kevin S
2008-05-04 16:55:19 UTC
I love Anti-Catholic Drinking Questions. I haven't seen this question for at least two days.



I dub this one #12.



PS. *DRINK*

PPS. Why does anyone care what he's called? Why not call him Old Sparky? Like, who cares?

PPPS. *DRINK*
Snow Globe
2008-05-04 17:02:38 UTC
time for a drink!





(((drink))) anisette liqueur I made myself. Mmmm!
God Fire
2008-05-04 16:56:18 UTC
This is what I have been say the RCC teach for doctrine the traditions of man, they have nothing to God.
†Army Ranger†
2008-05-04 17:09:21 UTC
The Elders of the Church are Called "Fathers" and the Faithful "Children"





Matt. 23:9 - Jesus says, "call no man father." But Protestants use this verse in an attempt to prove that it is wrong for Catholics to call priests "father." This is an example of "eisegesis" (imposing one's views upon a passage) as opposed to "exegesis" (drawing out the meaning of the passage from its context). In this verse, Jesus was discouraging His followers from elevating the scribes and Pharisees to the titles of “fathers” and “rabbis” because they were hypocrites. Jesus warns us not to elevate anyone to the level of our heavenly Father.



Matt. 23:8 – in this teaching, Jesus also says not to call anyone teacher or rabbi as well. But don’t Protestants call their teachers “teacher?” What about this commandment of Jesus? When Protestants say “call no man father,” they must also argue that we cannot call any man teacher either.



Judges 17:10; 18:19 - priesthood and fatherhood have always been identified together. Fatherhood literally means "communicating one's nature," and just as biological fathers communicate their nature to their children, so do spiritual fathers communicate the nature of God to us, their children, through (hopefully) teaching and example.



Eph. 3:14-15 - every family in heaven and on earth is named from the "Father." We are fathers in the Father.



Acts 7:2; 22:1,1 John 2:13 - elders of the Church are called "fathers." Therefore, we should ask the question, "Why don't Protestants call their pastors "father?"



1 Cor. 4:15 - Paul writes, "I became your father in Christ Jesus."



1 Cor. 4:17 - Paul calls Bishop Timothy a beloved and faithful "child" in the Lord.



2 Cor. 12:14 - Paul describes his role as parent over his "children" the Corinthians.



Phil. 2:22 - Paul calls Timothy's service to him as a son serves a "father."



1 Thess. 2:11- Paul compares the Church elders' ministry to the people like a father with his children.



1 Tim. 1:2,18; 2 Tim. 1:2-3 - Paul calls Timothy his true "child" in the faith and his son.



Titus 1:4 - Paul calls Titus his true "child" in a common faith. Priests are our spiritual fathers in the family of God.



Philemon 10 - Paul says he has become the "father" of Onesimus.



Heb. 12:7,9 - emphasizes our earthly "fathers." But these are not just biological but also spiritual (the priests of the Church).



1 Peter 5:13 - Peter refers to himself as father by calling Mark his "son."



1 John 2:1,13,14 - John calls the elders of the Church "fathers."



1 John 2:1,18,28; 3:18; 5:21; 3 John 4 - John calls members of the Church "children."



1 Macc. 2:65 - Mattathias the priest tells his sons that Simeon will be their "father."



The Lord, Mary, the Apostles and Others Refer to Spiritual Leaders as "Fathers"



Matt. 3:9; Luke 3:8 - Jesus refers to Abraham as our "father."



Mark 11:10 - the people cried out blessed is the kingdom of our "father" David that is coming!



Luke 1:32 - God's angel says Jesus will be great and be given the throne of his "father" David.



Luke 1:55 - Mary says that He spoke to our "fathers," to Abraham and to his posterity for ever.



Luke 1:73 - Zechariah says the oath which he swore to our "father" Abraham.



Luke 16:24,30 - Jesus, in His parable about the rich man, says our "father" Abraham.



John 4:12 - the Samaritan woman asks Jesus if He is greater than our "father" Jacob.



John 7:22 - Jesus refers to the "fathers" who gave the Jews the practice of circumcision.



John 8:56 - Jesus tells the Jews your "Father" Abraham rejoiced that he was to see my day.



Acts 3:13,25; 5:30 - Peter teaches that the God of our "fathers" glorified His servant Jesus and raised Him to life.



Acts 4:25 - Peter and John pray to God and refer to our "father" David.



Acts 7:11-12, 15,19,38,44-45,51-52 - Stephen refers to our "fathers" in the faith.



Acts 7:32 - Stephen calls God the God of our "fathers."



Acts 13:17,32,36; 24:14; 26:6; 28:17,25 - Paul also refers to the God of our "fathers" in the faith.



Acts 22:3 - Paul says he was educated according to the strict law of our "fathers."



Acts 22:14 - Ananias says the God of our "fathers."



Rom. 4:1 - Paul calls Abraham our "forefather."



Rom. 4:16-17 - Paul says that Abraham is the "father" of us all and the "father" of many nations.



Rom. 9:10 - Paul calls Isaac, a spiritual leader, our "forefather."



1 Cor. 10:1 - Paul says that our "fathers" were all under the cloud, referring to the Old Testament spiritual leaders.



Gal. 1:14 - Paul says that he was zealous for the tradition of his "fathers."



2 Tim. 1:3 - Paul thanks God whom he serves with a clear conscience as did his "fathers" in faith.



Heb. 1:1 - the author says God spoke of old to our "fathers."



Heb. 3:9 - the Holy Spirit says that your "fathers" put me to the test.



Heb. 8:9 - God says not like the covenant that I made with their "fathers."



James 2:21 - James says was not our "father" Abraham justified by works when he offered his son Isaac?



1 Peter 1:18 - Peter says you were ransomed from the futile ways inherited from your "fathers."



2 Peter 3:4 - Peter says ever since the "fathers" fell asleep, all things have continued as they were from the beginning



Other Examples Where Jesus Uses the Word "Father" When Teaching



Matt. 15:4-5; 19:19 - Jesus uses "father" when He teaches God's commandment to "Honor your father and your mother."



Mark 7:10-12; Luke 18:20 - these are more examples of Jesus using "father" when teaching about honoring our fathers and mothers.



Eph. 6:2,4 - Paul also teaches to honor your "father" and mother, and says "fathers," do not provoke your children.



Matt. 10:21; 35,37; Mark 13:12 - Jesus says "father" will deliver up his child in the last days.



Matt. 19:5; Mark 10:7,19 - Jesus says a man shall leave his "father" and mother and be joined to his wife. See also Eph. 5:31.



Matt. 19:29; Mark 10:29-30 - Jesus says whoever has left mother or "father" for His sake shall receive a hundredfold.



Matt. 21:31 - Jesus uses "father" when he teaches about the parable of the two sons and asks, "who did the will of his "father?"



Luke 6:23,26 - Jesus speaks about reward and punishment with reference to what their "fathers" did to the prophets.



Luke 11:11 - Jesus says what "father" among you will give his child a serpent when he asks for a fish.



Luke 11:47-48 - Jesus tells the lawyers they are witnesses to the deeds of their "fathers."



Luke 14:26 - Jesus says we must leave our "fathers" and mothers and come to him, or we cannot be His disciple.



Luke 15:12,17-18,20-22,27-29 - Jesus repeatedly uses "father" when teaching about the prodigal son.



Luke 16:27 - Jesus uses "father" when teaching about the rich man in purgatory.



John 6:49,58 - Jesus says your "fathers" ate the manna in the wilderness and died.



Go Crawl back into your fundie hole



*Drink*
2008-05-04 16:53:45 UTC
Where is it written is scripture that we shouldn't?


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