Question:
where in the bible does it talk about the Trinity?
JoshieAesthetic
2009-12-30 13:39:07 UTC
my friend and i have been doing a ministry where we talk to people about the gospel and a question was brought up about the Trinity. they asked where does it mention that the Holy Spirit is part of the Trinity and asked who the Holy Spirit was. I gave him my best answer but promised to bring him more information on his question. can you tell me where in the bible it talks about the Trinity?

(if you have nothing nice to say please dont say anything) thanks:)
Eighteen answers:
♥ SJC ♥
2009-12-30 14:28:49 UTC
The Holy Spirit is simply God. God is holy (Leviticus 11:44; I Peter 1:16). In fact, He alone is holy in Himself. God is also a Spirit (John 4:24), and there is only one Spirit of God (I Corinthians 12:11; Ephesians 4:4). Therefore, "Holy Spirit" is another term for the one God.



Trinitarianism is not a biblical doctrine and that it contradicts the Bible in many ways. The Scriptures do not teach a trinity of persons. The doctrine of the trinity uses terminology not used in Scripture. It teaches and emphasizes plurality in the Godhead while the Bible emphasizes the oneness of God. It detracts from the fulness of Jesus Christ's deity. It contradicts many specific verses of Scripture. It is not logical. No one can understand or explain it rationally, not even those who advocate it. In short, trinitarianism is a doctrine that does not belong to Christianity.



The Bible speaks of Father, Son, and Holy Ghost as different manifestations, roles, titles, attributes, relationships to man, or functions of the one God, but it does not refer to Father, Son, and Holy Ghost as three persons, personalities, wills, minds, or Gods. God is the Father of us all and in a unique way the Father of the man Jesus Christ. God manifested Himself in flesh in the person of Jesus Christ, called the Son of God. God is also called the Holy Spirit, which emphasizes His activity in the lives and affairs of mankind.
freedomfrom2002
2009-12-31 03:11:38 UTC
The traditional Christian doctrine God is the Father of Israel Isa 64:8, Jer 31:9, and of the anointed king of his people 2 Sam 7:14, Pss 2:7, 89:27.



Jesus lived in communion with his heavenly Father always doing his will and recognizing him as truly and eternally God. Matt 11:25 - 27, Luke 10: 21 - 22, John 10:25 - 28, Rom 15:6, 2 Cor 1:3, 11:31,



Later the disciples understood that Jesus to be the Messiah, Jesus must also be God made man. See John 1: 1 2, 18: 20:28, Rom 9: 5, Titus 2; 13, Heb 1: 8, 2 Peter 1:1.Thus doxologies were offered to him as God. Heb 13:20.



The Apostles following Jesus refer to the Holy Spirit as a Person. In Acts the Spirit inspires Scriptures, is lied to, is tempted, bears witness, is resisted, directs carries someone away , informs, commands, calls, sends, thinks a certain decision is good, forbids, prevents, warns, appoints, and reveals prophetic Truth

See Acts 1:16, 5:3, 9, 32: 7:51, 8:29, 39, 10:19, 11:12, 13:2, 4: 15:28, 16:6, 7: 20: 23,



Paul describes the Spirit as bearing witness, speaking, teaching, and acting as guide Rom 8:14. The Holy Spirit is another (parakletos) John 14:16, 15:26, 16:13, God, the Lord, is Father, Son, and Holy Spirit This confession and understanding may be said to be basic to the faith of the writers of the NT, though they rarely express it in precise terms. But in certain passages the doctrine is articulated Matt 28:19, 1 Cor 12:4 - 6, 2 Cor 13:14, 2 Thess 2:13 - 14, 1 Peter 1:2.
gismoII
2009-12-30 22:12:32 UTC
Scripture, for the most part, only implies the Trinity. There are many verses that can now be confidently INTERPRETED in the light of the Trinity, but cannot be presented as objective proof. But here is what is most important. It is not necessary to objectively prove the Trinity from scripture. All that IS necessary is that we can use scripture to prove that each Person, especially Jesus, is God while maintaining there is still only one God. Once we establish FROM SCRIPTURE that each Person is God, we have a huge dilemma because Jesus Himself said that His Father (One God) alone is the only true God. We now need an explanation since there is still only one God. That explanation can come from any source as long as it does not deny that each Person is God. The Trinity dogma/doctrine is that explanation. And it was/is formulated using parts of scripture combined with a valid reasoning process and Faith. The ultimate proof NOW is the infallible article of faith established under the authority of Matt: 16: 18-19 during the 4th century. Scripture is necessary, but mostly in proving that each Person is God. This then implies the dogma of the Trinity since there is still only one God. Without the Trinity, we need another explanation since we know there is not more than one God in scripture. The dogma of the Trinity always agrees with scripture in every detail. It then clarifies the proof from scripture that each Person is God while maintaining there is still only one God. The Trinity dogma is not allowed to ignore any verse in scripture. It must always agree, at least, by way of interpretation.
Uncle Thesis
2009-12-30 21:54:32 UTC
The word 'trinity' and the idea it represents are not to be found in the Bible.

One reason is that the holy spirit is not a person, it is a force ......God's force (or power) to get things done.

That's why Acts 2:4 can say," They all became filled with holy spirit and started to speak with different tongues."

There are 2 (maybe 3) scriptures that trinitarians can twist to make it seem there is a trinity, however, they speak only of God and Jesus and that's a duality, not a trinity.
anonymous
2009-12-30 21:45:36 UTC
Hey! I'm a Bible college student who has wrestled with this question a lot myself. The truth is that there is no chapter and verse reference for the Trinity in the Bible. The idea of the Trinity actually came later as Christians studied the scriptures. Certainly there is evidence of the Trinity in the Bible but no precise definition. Personally, I believe that God provided us with the evidence in scripture and inspired us to put the pieces together.
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2009-12-30 21:49:27 UTC
The Bible doesn't really support the trinity doctrine. It was brought about by vote long after the Bible was written. Most encyclopedias will give you the exact details. When Jesus taught on the earth there was simply no such thing. This is not going to be the most popular answer. But it's the truth.
TCC Revolution
2009-12-31 03:06:44 UTC
It funny people write great paragraphs of history and biblical, supposed to know something, 1 john 5:7 was added to the bible in the early 1500's . Trinity is a the biggest from Satan to the people .







GOD BLESS
Josh6
2010-01-01 17:50:05 UTC
The Trinity has become the simplest of all Christian doctrines today and every Christian should be made aware it is no longer considered a mystery.
Winston Wpippin
2009-12-30 21:56:36 UTC
Why not ask the organization that wrote it? It was put together by the Roman Catholic Church, upon the rock, Peter, and finally codified in 399 AD. I should think they would know best. Not meant to be an unnice response, but it does seem the author's (ostensibly the Holy Spirit) scribes would best know.
anonymous
2009-12-30 21:52:27 UTC
the Bible does NOT speak of a Trinity at all.....unless its one that's been re-written by the trinity doctrine society !!



Jesus IS the Holy Ghost and the Bible plainly says so



"" I will not leave you comfortless, " I " will come to you ""



That's what Jesus said The Comforter being the Holy Ghost, Jesus Himself !!!
L.C.
2009-12-30 21:44:44 UTC
Here are just a few that you can use to show the Spirit.



Genesis 1:2

The earth was formless and void, and darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was moving over the surface of the waters.



Psalm 104:30

You send forth Your Spirit, they are created;And You renew the face of the ground.



John 14:26

"But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all that I said to you.

John



John 15:26

"When the Helper comes, whom I will send to you from the Father, that is the Spirit of truth who proceeds from the Father, He will testify about Me,
Sowing Kingdom Seed :)
2009-12-31 00:52:30 UTC
Trinity Definition: The central doctrine of religions of Christendom. According to the Athanasian Creed, there are three divine Persons (the Father, the Son, the Holy Ghost), each said to be eternal, each said to be almighty, none greater or less than another, each said to be God, and yet together being but one God. Other statements of the dogma emphasize that these three “Persons” are not separate and distinct individuals but are three modes in which the divine essence exists. Thus some Trinitarians emphasize their belief that Jesus Christ is God, or that Jesus and the Holy Ghost are Jehovah. Not a Bible teaching.

What is the origin of the Trinity doctrine?

The New Encyclopædia Britannica says: “Neither the word Trinity, nor the explicit doctrine as such, appears in the New Testament, nor did Jesus and his followers intend to contradict the Shema in the Old Testament: ‘Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God is one Lord’ (Deut. 6:4). . . . The doctrine developed gradually over several centuries and through many controversies. . . . By the end of the 4th century . . . the doctrine of the Trinity took substantially the form it has maintained ever since.”—(1976), Micropædia, Vol. X, p. 126.

The New Catholic Encyclopedia states: “The formulation ‘one God in three Persons’ was not solidly established, certainly not fully assimilated into Christian life and its profession of faith, prior to the end of the 4th century. But it is precisely this formulation that has first claim to the title the Trinitarian dogma. Among the Apostolic Fathers, there had been nothing even remotely approaching such a mentality or perspective.”—(1967), Vol. XIV, p. 299.

In The Encyclopedia Americana we read: “Christianity derived from Judaism and Judaism was strictly Unitarian [believing that God is one person]. The road which led from Jerusalem to Nicea was scarcely a straight one. Fourth century Trinitarianism did not reflect accurately early Christian teaching regarding the nature of God; it was, on the contrary, a deviation from this teaching.”—(1956), Vol. XXVII, p. 294L.

According to the Nouveau Dictionnaire Universel, “The Platonic trinity, itself merely a rearrangement of older trinities dating back to earlier peoples, appears to be the rational philosophic trinity of attributes that gave birth to the three hypostases or divine persons taught by the Christian churches. . . . This Greek philosopher’s [Plato, fourth century B.C.E.] conception of the divine trinity . . . can be found in all the ancient [pagan] religions.”—(Paris, 1865-1870), edited by M. Lachâtre, Vol. 2, p. 1467.

John L. McKenzie, S.J., in his Dictionary of the Bible, says: “The trinity of persons within the unity of nature is defined in terms of ‘person’ and ‘nature’ which are G[ree]k philosophical terms; actually the terms do not appear in the Bible. The trinitarian definitions arose as the result of long controversies in which these terms and others such as ‘essence’ and ‘substance’ were erroneously applied to God by some theologians.”—(New York, 1965), p. 899.

It puts them in a very dangerous position. The evidence is indisputable that the dogma of the Trinity is not found in the Bible, nor is it in harmony with what the Bible teaches. (See the preceding pages.) It grossly misrepresents the true God. Yet, Jesus Christ said: “The hour is coming, and now is, when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth, for such the Father seeks to worship him. God is spirit, and those who worship him must worship in spirit and truth.” (John 4:23, 24, RS) Thus Jesus made it clear that those whose worship is not ‘in truth,’ not in harmony with the truth set out in God’s own Word, are not “true worshipers.” To Jewish religious leaders of the first century, Jesus said: “For the sake of your tradition, you have made void the word of God. You hypocrites! Well did Isaiah prophesy of you, when he said: ‘This people honors me with their lips, but their heart is far from me; in vain do they worship me, teaching as doctrines the precepts of men.’” (Matt. 15:6-9, RS) That applies with equal force to those in Christendom today who advocate human traditions in preference to the clear truths of the Bible.

Regarding the Trinity, the Athanasian Creed (in English) says that its members are “incomprehensible.” Teachers of the doctrine often state that it is a “mystery.” Obviously such a Trinitarian God is not the one that Jesus had in mind when he said: “We worship what we know.” (John 4:22, RS) Do you really know the God you worship?

Serious questions confront each one of us: Do we sincerely love the truth? Do we really want an approved relationship with God? Not everyone genuinely loves the truth. Many have put having the approval of their relatives and associates above love of the truth and of God. (2 Thess. 2:9-12; John 5:39-44) But, as Jesus said in earnest prayer to his heavenly Father: “This means everlasting life, their taking in knowledge of you, the only true G
Macky
2009-12-30 22:35:14 UTC
it does not say the exact word "trinity" but...



I john 5:7-For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
anonymous
2009-12-30 21:53:57 UTC
1 John 5:7 " For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.

8 And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one."

Trinity

The English word Trinity is derived from Latin Trinitas, meaning "the number three, a triad".[13] This abstract noun is formed from the adjective trinus (three each, threefold, triple),[14] as the word unitas is the abstract noun formed from unus (one).



The corresponding word in Greek is Τριάς, meaning "a set of three" or "the number three".[15]



About a century later, in 325, the First Council of Nicaea established the doctrine of the Trinity as orthodoxy and adopted the Nicene Creed, which described Christ as "God of God, Light of Light, very God of very God, begotten, not made, being of one substance (homoousios) with the Father".





The New Testament does not use the word "Τριάς" (Trinity) nor explicitly teach it, but provides the material upon which the doctrine of the Trinity is based.[22] It required reflection by the earliest Christians on the coming of Jesus and of what they believed to be the presence and power of God among them, which they called the Holy Spirit; and it associated the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit in such passages as the Great Commission: "Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit"[Matt. 28:19] and Paul the Apostle's blessing: "The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ and the love of God and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit be with you all,"[2 Cor. 13:14] while at the same time not contradicting the Jewish Shema Yisrael: "Hear, O Israel: the Lord our God, the Lord is one."[Deuteronomy 6:4][1] Apart from the passages that speak of Father Son and Holy Spirit, there are many passages that refer to God and Jesus without also referring to the Spirit.[23]



According to Christian tradition the Trinity was introduced by the Gospels and Jesus Christ himself[24] "Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you."[Matt. 28:19-20] Jesus thus mentions the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit in a phrase that may suggest that there is one name that encompasses all three.



The Old Testament refers to God's Word, his Spirit, and Wisdom. These have been interpreted as foreshadows of the doctrine of the Trinity, as have been also narratives such as the appearance of the three men to Abraham.[Gen. 18][6] Some Church Fathers believed that a knowledge of the mystery was granted to the Prophets and saints of the Old Dispensation, and that they identified the divine messenger of Genesis 16:7, 21:17, 31:11, Exodus 3:2 and Wisdom of the sapiential books with the Son, and "the spirit of the Lord" with the Holy Spirit.[25]



However, it is generally agreed that it would go beyond the intention and spirit of the Old Testament to correlate these notions directly with later Trinitarian doctrine.[25][26]



The Gospel of John[John 1] opens by declaring, as usually translated: "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was with God in the beginning. Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made." The rest of John Chapter 1 makes it clear that "the Word" refers to Jesus Christ. Thus John introduces a seemingly impossible contradiction, that Jesus both "was with God" and "was God" at the same time, and that was true from the beginning of creation. John also portrays Jesus Christ as the creator of the Universe, such that "without him nothing was made that has been made."[John 1:3]



The Apostle John is identified as the "one whom Jesus loved" thus perhaps being the closest Apostle to Jesus. Jesus also instructed John to adopt Jesus' mother Mary as John's own in Mary's old age[John 19:26] such that John would have had the entire knowledge of Jesus' family when writing his Gospel. Some scholars question this, however, as the gospel of John is believed to have been written circa AD 85-90.



Jesus frequently referred to the "Father" as God as distinct from himself, but also discussed "The Holy Spirit" as a being distinct from either God the Father or Jesus himself.
ahanix1989
2009-12-30 21:52:28 UTC
Did you check the Table of Contents?
anonymous
2009-12-30 21:44:56 UTC
When Jesus get's baptized it is him, and God speaks from heaven and the holy spirit flies down as a dove.
anonymous
2009-12-31 00:24:14 UTC
it not the church invented it to make jesus seem like god

boy: you are so good



jesus: why call me good, no one is good but god
anonymous
2009-12-30 21:46:49 UTC
Nowhere. It is NOT in the bible.


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