Question:
Is Earth in the 'right place for life' because 'god put it here'?
2011-09-19 09:58:40 UTC
Many theists claim "If there was no God, then how come the Earth is in just the right place to support life?"

Therefore: If life is found to have ever existed on Mars, OR if another Earth-like planet is discovered that has NO life, will that mean there IS no god, or will theists have to invent yet another excuse to cover those contingencies?
22 answers:
Randy P
2011-09-19 10:02:07 UTC
Is THAT the reasoning behind those "what if we discover intelligent alien life" questions? I've never been able to figure out why that is supposed to have any bearing on Christianity, but there seems to be a general consensus that it would somehow be damaging to Christian belief.



But what about all the environments right here on earth that are full of life but fatal to humans? Doesn't that cause the same issues?
Masticina Akicta
2011-09-19 18:06:00 UTC
Ah the goldy lock zone. Mmm it looks if we look at the evidence on the table that there is no reason to support adding a requirement for a supernatural cause.



Yes this planet has life yes this planet is in the zone where water is neither boiled away nor frozen solid. Yet this zone is not a "pinpoint" that is very thin. It is relative wide and we have found other planets of what some would in the right situation and with the right influences have life.



Not to mention not all life on earth is as precious as us. There are bacteria that can survive high acid environment. That can survive in areas where sunlight doesn't shines. Those bacteria could survive on some of the planets we found.



So is there a high probability of life on another planet? Yes.. but not as we expect it.



We know so much today and yet so little. But what is obvious is that where in the past we put in "god" we now know the factors.. we know understand how things work. So "god" has been used as an explanation where we didn't had one. A god of the gaps..



Ah but you know religion has nothing to do with science. Science can do without any supernatural input.. it doesn't needs to do E =MC[GOD]2 if all it needs to do is E = MC2
Gerry
2011-09-19 17:10:10 UTC
It is intresting to think why would God create a universe of basically infinitive mass with billions of galaxys then only create life on earth, it seems like a waste of time creating anything else. Maybe God has created life on many differnat planets throughout the universe, maybe the universe isnt even there God just created the illusion. Maybe we have confused God over time and interpreted him to be a living thing like us, maybe God is the universe and that the universe has its own kind of will or thought, that it is a living organism with incredible intelligence and abilities. It is a very complex question to answer, science cannot explain anything before the big bang. That time itself was created at the big bang what was before was there forever and was never there if there was no time.
Polytheist
2011-09-19 17:08:18 UTC
Just because conditions are right for earth to support life does not mean that other planets have to have the exact same conditions.



What if on another planet carbon monoxide and not oxygen is able to support life?? We cannot and should not assume what constitutes hospitable living conditions is equal across the vast universe
jtrusnik
2011-09-19 17:07:56 UTC
Planets throughout our vast universe are in many different distances relative to their star. The fact that we would only find life on the ones that are at the right distance for life isn't something I find particularly remarkable. It's like talking about how "perfect" it is that fish "just happen" to only live in the water.



If we find living beings that manage to survive on a planet remarkably unsuited for their survival requirements, and manage to do it naturally (i.e., without advanced technology to make it possible), then *that* would be remarkable.
*Blessed*
2011-09-19 17:07:12 UTC
No, I don't believe that's necessarily true. It's believed that Mars DID support life at one time, and possibly even one (or more) of Jupiter's moons as well. We are simply well-acquainted with what's necessary for ORGANIC life to thrive. It's possible that there is non-organic life in other places in the universe that wouldn't support organic life.
2011-09-19 17:01:49 UTC
Most of the Earth is lethal to us, as well as that there are a lot of parts where crops won't grow and people starve. Hardly the right place for life. Even in the parts easiest to live in there are still problems.
bmisinki
2011-09-19 17:31:19 UTC
I believe so, but it is interesting about life on the other planets in our solar system. My little sister (who's not really religious) and I were talking about life on earth and the other planets, and we were talking about the idea that the other planets were God's "rough drafts" or other kinds of attempts at making planets, and with Earth he seemed to get it right.
2011-09-19 17:05:29 UTC
We are now on the threshold of a new world promised by Jehovah God. “There are new heavens and a new earth that we are awaiting according to his promise,” wrote the apostle Peter, “and in these righteousness is to dwell.” (2 Peter 3:13) After reading those words of Peter, some may conclude that this planet will never become a paradise. They may think that the physical heavens and earth will be replaced. Can that be so?



What are the “new heavens”? They are not the physical heavens that were created by God. (Psalm 19:1, 2) Peter had just referred to symbolic “heavens”—human governments that are lifted up or exalted above their subjects. (2 Peter 3:10-12) These “heavens” have failed mankind and will pass away. (Jeremiah 10:23; Daniel 2:44) The “new heavens” that will replace them is God’s Kingdom made up of the King Jesus Christ and his 144,000 joint-heirs resurrected to heavenly life.—Romans 8:16, 17; Revelation 5:9, 10; 14:1, 3.



The “new earth” that Peter mentioned is not a new planet. Jehovah made the earth perfect for everlasting human life. (Psalm 104:5) At times, the Bible refers to “the earth” when people are meant. (Genesis 11:1) The earth that will soon be destroyed consists of people who have made themselves part of this wicked world. Similarly, a world of ungodly people suffered destruction in the Flood of Noah’s day. (2 Peter 3:5-7) What, then, is the “new earth”? It is a new society of people—God’s true worshippers, who are “upright in their hearts.” (Psalm 125:4; 1 John 2:17) All laws for the “new earth” will come from the “new heavens.” Faithful men on earth will see that these instructions are carried out.
Allegory
2011-09-19 17:12:29 UTC
Heaven + Earth duality is like Life + Death duality.

If risen with Christ we shouldn't be Earth mindead.

Colossians 3:1-3



Heaven = plan A: Approved: Above

Earth = plan B: Bondage: Beneath



So we should not mingle Sweet + Bitter;

For Christ refused such "mingled" drink.

Mt 27:34; Mk 15:23; Jam 3:11
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2011-09-19 17:06:37 UTC
earth terra is the "right" place for OUR human sapien form of life yes.



what i believe about life forms on all other planets:



first there are at least 3 verses in the "bible" which hint that life exist outside our galaxy, if correctly interpreted in context.



one verse says that "THEY" come from the other end of heaven with weapons of great destruction. (talking about a race of beings that is either the Eloheim Godhead or at the very least some race that proclaims to be "sons of God". idkfs.

anyway i just recently listened to an interview that quoted another bible verse, though i have never read it myself, it describes the LORD rebuking the Evil ones who flee to the stars becaue even their God will find them and destroy them.

interesting, life that destroys planets can be hunted down and likewise destroyed with the promise of vengeance.



when it comes to the description of the Palaides start system, i think the bible definitely mentions these as an origin of life. NOT sure, but thats how i interpret it.

then you have the radio show coast to coast with aRTBell. dude, the classic shows definitely have guests that describe contact of the third and fourth and fifth kind. generals (plural - testify of the Greays) at least one general says there are known to be at least 18 life forms that have made contact. there eveil malevolent kinds and beneficial kinds as well.



the "tall whites" are supposedly inhabiting parts of the world

there are also the Enochian "watchers", though i once thought enoch says they were evil, others say differently.



I also believe that God created all manners of life forms to show "US" what to expect out there in the vastness of the galaxy and universe.



there are those that are demonic creations genetic
2011-09-19 17:08:12 UTC
If Earth isn't in the right place for life because God put it here, then I guess it must be in the right place for life by pure accident.



Mathematical physicist Roger Penrose calculated that if you work back from the disorder in the universe now to the beginning, the degree of order had to be set to one part in 10, that's 10 times 10 x 123 times, then 10 times 10 that many times. "This is an extraordinary amount of order and precision. There aren't enough atoms in the universe to describe that number. For humans to be here we need the whole universe. The formation of galaxies and stars is responsible for the 100 plus chemical elements of the periodic table which constitute life. We couldn't be here if it wasn't for that." (pages 123-125)



Cosmologist Fred Hoyle did some major work on the nuclear reactions that go on inside stars to form all the chemical elements out of the simplest building block, which is hydrogen. He discovered that there needs to be a very fine balance of the forces in nature in order to make carbon, and then to make oxygen without destroying the carbon. Hoyle said that his work led him to the conclusion that there was a super-intellect behind physics, chemistry and biology; and that there are no blind forces worth speaking about in nature. Right back at the beginning, the mass-energy needed (for the universe to be what it is) had to be within 1 part in 10 to the power of 60. That’s 10 with sixty noughts after it. That kind of accuracy would be the same as firing a gun from one end of the universe to the other (10 billion light years away) and hitting a coin you were aiming at.



You need the universe to be as old as it is – 13.7 billion years old – and as vast as it is to have life anywhere. Life on Earth (life anywhere) couldn’t exist without all those one hundred thousand million other galaxies. And all of that happened by accident?



I might have been born at night, but it wasn't last night.
fununtilitsover
2011-09-19 17:06:50 UTC
Fluke...



All theists will always have an answer to anything that comes up...They simply convince themselves by ignoring fact or reality and continue to believe their line of thought regardless of all things presented stating the direct opposite.
In Fungus Wii Trust 1776
2011-09-19 17:08:55 UTC
oh please life of some sort can form on any planet. i bet we would be told to say the same if we formed deep with in Jupiter or something. Jupiter like planets can Only form life.

there is no right place that is a big lie.

we only find other planets harsh blah blah blah meh.
Sandi
2011-09-19 17:01:12 UTC
The world will run out of white out because of having to correct all the stories, again.
dlm4
2011-09-19 17:01:16 UTC
we're in the right place to support life because if we weren't then there would be no life and therefore there would be no debate
2011-09-19 17:05:43 UTC
we know that life does not exist on mars....or any other planet we have "visited"



nobody, not scientist or creationist argues that the verdunt zone is required for life.



Life is balanced on the head of a pin of environmental issues, if one goes out of balance, the whole shebang dies
Kaboose
2011-09-19 17:03:10 UTC
Right, earth was perfectly balanced and designed to support life, namely mankind.
Rene
2011-09-19 17:00:12 UTC
Earth is the ONLY place for life. There is no evidence for life on another planet.
numbnuts222
2011-09-19 17:01:47 UTC
No, he moved the sun further back
2011-09-19 17:00:34 UTC
GOD WANTS YOU TO KNOW WHO HE IS

14 If you want someone to get to know you, what might you do? Would you not tell the person your name? Does God have a name? Many religions answer that his name is “God” or “Lord,” but those are not personal names. They are titles, just as “king” and “president” are titles. The Bible teaches that God has many titles. “God” and “Lord” are among them. However, the Bible also teaches that God has a personal name: Jehovah. Psalm 83:18 says: “You, whose name is Jehovah, you alone are the Most High over all the earth.” If your Bible translation does not contain that name, you may want to consult the Appendix of this book to learn why that is so. The truth is that God’s name appears thousands of times in ancient Bible manuscripts. So Jehovah wants you to know his name and to use it. In a sense, he is using the Bible to introduce himself to you.





When you want someone to get to know you, do you not mention your name? God reveals his name to us in the Bible

15 God gave himself a name that is full of meaning. His name, Jehovah, means that God can fulfill any promise he makes and can carry out any purpose he has in mind.* God’s name is unique, one of a kind. It belongs only to him. In a number of ways, Jehovah is unique. How is that so?



16 We saw that Psalm 83:18 said of Jehovah: “You alone are the Most High.” Similarly, Jehovah alone is referred to as “the Almighty.” Revelation 15:3 says: “Great and wonderful are your works, Jehovah God, the Almighty. Righteous and true are your ways, King of eternity.” The title “the Almighty” teaches us that Jehovah is the most powerful being there is. His power is unmatched; it is supreme. And the title “King of eternity” reminds us that Jehovah is unique in another sense. He alone has always existed. Psalm 90:2 says: “Even from time indefinite to time indefinite [or, forever] you are God.” That thought inspires awe, does it not?



17 Jehovah is also unique in that he alone is the Creator. Revelation 4:11 reads: “You are worthy, Jehovah, even our God, to receive the glory and the honor and the power, because you created all things, and because of your will they existed and were created.” Everything that you can think of—from the invisible spirit creatures in heaven to the stars that fill the night sky to the fruit that grows on the trees to the fish that swim in the oceans and rivers—all of it exists because Jehovah is the Creator!



CAN YOU BE CLOSE TO JEHOVAH?

18 Reading about Jehovah’s awe-inspiring qualities makes some people feel a little uneasy. They fear that God is too high for them, that they could never get close to him or even matter to such a lofty God. But is this idea correct? The Bible teaches just the opposite. It says of Jehovah: “In fact, he is not far off from each one of us.” (Acts 17:27) The Bible even urges us: “Draw close to God, and he will draw close to you.”—James 4:8.



The Bible teaches that Jehovah is the loving Creator of the universe



19 How can you draw close to God? To begin with, continue doing what you are doing now—learning about God. Jesus said: “This means everlasting life, their taking in knowledge of you, the only true God, and of the one whom you sent forth, Jesus Christ.” (John 17:3) Yes, the Bible teaches that learning about Jehovah and Jesus leads to “everlasting life”! As already noted, “God is love.” (1 John 4:16) Jehovah also has many other beautiful and appealing qualities. For example, the Bible says that Jehovah is “a God merciful and gracious, slow to anger and abundant in loving-kindness and truth.” (Exodus 34:6) He is “good and ready to forgive.” (Psalm 86:5) God is patient. (2 Peter 3:9) He is loyal. (Revelation 15:4) As you read more in the Bible, you will see how Jehovah has shown that he has these and many other appealing qualities
2011-09-19 17:05:41 UTC
christians and their retarded pseudo science.


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