Question:
God believers, if your belief is true, why do you dislike Atheists to challenge your belief? What are you?
Black Atheist
2007-01-30 09:42:28 UTC
afraid of?

Me, being an Atheist, enjoy God believers to challenge my disbelief and so do plenty Atheists
49 answers:
user name
2007-01-30 09:45:22 UTC
I'm not sure if I would enjoy believing in nothing just for the sake of arguing with those that do.



Everyone has a right to their own beliefs yet we taunt one another because of it.



Is your combative nature towards "believers" a Freudian slip that you too might have suppressed beliefs in God, but are afraid to assert yourself or commit to something that is greater than your own ideas?



any belief that can raise a society or individual to a greater ideal is OK with me! ...We are all searching for something in our lives. whether it be wisdom, enlightenment, or basic happiness.



So, let me ask you... Does disavowing people's choices or paths to their goals get you any closer to your own?
damselville
2007-01-30 10:01:28 UTC
I am afraid you miss the whole point of faith. We don't believe bcos we know, we have belief because without faith it is impossible to please him. In other words, unlike you, we don't need or have concrete answers. We just have a convincion in the useen and the unknown.

You don't realise this, but u do exactly the same thing everyday. For instance, have you ever looked inside your head and seen your brain? No, but you believe you have a brain because the doctors and scientists say so everyday. When u make a deposit in the bank, do you wait until you're let into the strong room to see that your money is safe? You just give it to the teller and believe that it'll be in ur acc the next time u check, don't you? So if you have faith in these things without questioning, why should we have answers or questions to what the alpha and omega says will be? Just as you have never seen ur brain but believe you have one because there are numerous accounts that it exists, so do we believe in our God because there are numerous accounts that he exists.

We don't hang onto missing pieces of the puzzle that make us unsure because the chemist does not hang on to the fact that the cause of depression may not be neuro-chemical at all before he makes us those anti-depressants.

And if we dislike that you challenge our belief, it is because, like the chemist who believes in chemistry, we believe in our God and we don't like to be meddled with especially if ur not an expert.
sophieb
2007-01-30 09:54:08 UTC
Religion is a personal thing and a personal choice and up until recently did not come into the public eye wherein athiests (other religions did too) tried to change the government and the way the USA does things. Otherwise there is no dislike for athiests unless they insist their religion or non-religion is right for everyone.



Our believing in God has nothing to do with any dislike, and our belief is true so that part of the question should not be mixed with your other part wher eyou ask about disliking. But even here, athiests mix two statements (one true and one not true) to try to make a point...so the end result is that no point is really made.
IKB
2007-01-30 09:51:55 UTC
I think that most people like a respectful challenge to their beliefs. However, so often it's done rudely or condecendently (if that's a word). Personally, I'm surprised that people are annoyed by each other's beliefs. I would only be concerned if a person I loved was an atheist because I wouldn't want them to go to hell. Why, however, would an atheist need to challenge a christian's beliefs except becuase they want to be right. I don't know. I think a lot of christians have this need to be right too. We live in a free countrty though and no one needs to be defensive about their beliefs. If a person is attacking my faith, I will under no circumstances engage them in conversation. It's pointless
anonymous
2007-01-30 10:05:24 UTC
Ok. As every "atheist", you and your questions and your answers are all sophists, fallacious.



In this case, you show do understand what belief is. It is not the case that "it is true or false", like the school exercises. It is the case if believing in something given at the moment as inexplainable, such as your origin, the universe's orgin (including the a priori things for the big bang), amongst others.



Plus, no one "dislike" atheists"; we do not accept dogmatic people that cover themselves in fallacious things: "it you do not prove God's existence, then It does not exist". As well as atheists cannot prove the non-existence of something (because this is a logical necessity and to prove It suppose to consider It as existent), they stay on a vicious circle, affirming that "we don't know because It does not exist and it does not exist because we cannot know what is beyond our senses;God is beyond our senses, therefore It does not exist..."



In other words, you necessarily will always fall in contradictions or will do fallacious questions or will use sophist argues.



Ah, please, quote this you wrote to a question of mine:



Using God as a dumping ground for everything you dont understand is only the evidence of lazy thinking [RELIGIOUS KNOWLEDGE IS A DIFFERENT TIPE OF KNOWLEDGE, NOT EXPRESSION OF LAZY...] and you being bias towards any other possiblities. The top scientists are 85% Atheist [WHOM SAY THAT? WHERE?], 10% agnostic [IDEM], and 5%. theist []IBIDEM]. That's because the more you know, the less likely you are to believe in God [E.G., F. CAPRA DOES NOT SAY THAT; A. EINSTEIN DOES NOT SAY THAT; SARTRE TOO; ARISTOTLE TOO; WITTGENSTEIN TOO; SHALL I GO ON?].



So, please, stop making an epistemologic war here ... because people like will find out the meaning of knowledge, as a whole in different types, on the bed deaht (just like F. Nietzche). which is not good.



Okay. Sorry for my language mistakes here. I don't master English very well. Try to overcome them...



Tnx and passar bem!





ie - B r a z i l
iraqidesertmp
2007-01-30 09:55:53 UTC
Okay then take this challenge. Tonight go to a place where you can be alone, get on your knees, eyes closed and say. God the only God of mankind, I do not believe in you, if you really exist show me so I can be a believer. Be sincere DO NOT MOCK GOD. And trust me, something will happen to you, maybe not the same day, or week, or month or even years but you will see something and when you see it you will believe but after wards you will wonder was it real? and this no one will believe you when you tell them, so most people keep it to themselves for fear that others, even others so called believer will not believe.

Try it, take the challenge. And when this work and you are interested in having a relationship with your father, do the same thing as before, alone, eyes closed, concentrate and say to him, teach me to be whom you want me to be. and leave it at that.

God bless you my friend.
anonymous
2007-01-30 09:53:23 UTC
There is no challenge to be had. This life is for choice. Nobody has the right to take your choice from you. Certainly I as a Christian don't have that right, and God doesn't want the choice taken from you - He is the one who decreed that you have one.

That said, Why would it be a bother to me if you want to challenge something? I have no problem with that. However, if you are looking for someone to beg and plead with you to save your own sorry ***, look somewhere else. God does not require that of me, and I know better than to beat a dead horse.

Want to be athiest? Be an athiest. Want to be an arabian elephant rider? Be an arabian elephant rider - what is that to me?

You have to sail your own ship. We are in this flesh life to make a choice, and if you've made yours, then thats one-down and however many to go. When this earth age is over, and Christ returns, we can all get on with our lives in peace. Your mom might cry that you are not there, but I won't.

The only thing that bothers me is when an athiest just spends hours and hours on this forum asking stupid questions thinking that they will get some little fuzzy minded Christian person to be shocked or upset. Its ridiculous. A real Christian will tell you to sail your ship to hell if thats what you really want to do. period.

Have a good one.
4Real
2007-01-30 09:49:45 UTC
Seriously, what year is it????? I am Christian and i do not mock or defy anyone's beliefs. I respect anyone's opinion even if I do not agree.

You shouldn't put such a vast generilization on any religous party...

thats like some close minded person saying all black people steal.. which I know is NOT true.. Think before ya speak hun!

Just because someone believes in something doesn't mean they are horrible. Obviously you have been ridiculed and mocked for your beliefs, and that is wrong, but don't take that out on the rest of the world. : )
jefferyspringer57@sbcglobal.net
2007-01-30 09:51:22 UTC
I am not afraid of atheist challenging my belief in God presently. I do also realize that I may have to overcome them seeing other 'Christians' that have not overcome (passed) certain tests given Christians. I also realize that I do not presently know the answer to every question that every atheists may pose; that does not mean I am 'wrong' in the belief either.
anonymous
2007-01-30 09:47:26 UTC
Well some Christians dislike this and some don't. Some dislike it because they are merely infants in their faith and struggle with having a solid faith and are worried that challenges to their faith would led them astray.



I myself though I recognize I have a lot of growing to do, have never said or acted like I don't like it when people "challenge" my beliefs. In fact I am an open-minded rational person and like to put myself in the shoes of people who don't agree with me. Sometimes I challenge my faith, without being instigated by an outside source. Everytime I do, it seems eventually my faith goes deeper and stronger.
Health nut/Extremley Active
2007-01-30 09:47:28 UTC
This may sound odd, but everyone is able to take in that time has been, always will be, and has never had a begining, or end. so thats pretty big to take in. God is much the same. Ask any christain how their life was before and after, there is a huge difference. Plus, when youve experienced the "other' side (you know who I mean) Its hard not to
tonetones03
2007-01-30 09:48:07 UTC
That's a bit stereotypical. I don't mind being challenged and I know lots of other Christians who don't mind either. Nobody likes to be put down though while being challenged. Debates can go on with both sides showing respect and consideration,
4x4
2007-01-30 09:57:48 UTC
it is always hard to generalize but one thing is sure, there will always be degrees (or levels of faith) to being a God-believer as much as there is for unbelievers.



believers who have not (yet) challenged their belief system may seem like they dislike people who try to show them the folly of their faith... but in reality they may just be annoyed with the fact that they do not (yet) have the understanding (or the maturity) to explain why they do believe.



& as i have said above, the same also applies to being an unbeliever... there are also some unbelievers who do seem to be annoyed at being "preached" upon because they cannot defend their faith (or lack of faith).
mrs.mom
2007-01-30 09:46:57 UTC
I do not dislike this.. I find it helpful for me if some one asked me something and I do not know the answer it will only make me search the Bible for the answer.. So all in all I think it is good.. I also guess that I feel as if I can answer then maybe one day it will help that person want to know more and start having faith in God...

Have a grate day.
Patrick M
2007-01-30 10:16:43 UTC
I am an Atheist as well, and I have actually been told why by one of my friends. It has to do with the fact that they believe in a book that states that is the definitive and unquestionable truth, and in fact goes as far as to make questioning the bible a sin. therefor, for any one to question it is just wrong. it also has to do with the fact that they really can't come up with any real proof, all they can do is say "the bible says so"
AJM
2007-01-30 09:56:01 UTC
You asked if my belief is true...a belief is just what it is....a belief. It isn't right or wrong, it is what we believe to be true in our hearts and conscience. You want to provoke an argument, you sound like a bored person that wants to get everyone going. But let one thing be said and heard....you had better be really strong in your belief because if you are WRONG, God have mercy on your soul.
DindoPerlas
2007-01-30 09:47:21 UTC
who said God believers dislike being challenged by atheists?
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2016-11-02 01:35:37 UTC
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anonymous
2007-01-30 09:50:56 UTC
I always liked a good challenge. Keeps me studying the Bible, physics, biology and nature in general and it keeps my mind stimulated. So challenge away, I love researching things, especially about my beliefs.
anonymous
2007-01-30 09:54:31 UTC
Atheism is academically honest and open to challenge, because it is built upon a solid foundation of rationality and reason. "God believers" don't value intellectual debate, they see it as an attack and either refuse to engage or condemn it with scripture. It is impossible to debate with a delusional person. The minute they are confronted with logic they retreat into their shell of "belief". I say that their "faith" is weak, and that's why most of them have never read anything that contradicts it.
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2007-01-30 09:46:22 UTC
You are so funny, I love Atheists. I love it when they challenge my belief. You're not talking to the right God believers!
anonymous
2007-01-30 09:48:59 UTC
I dont mind when you ask me questons or even challenge my belief. I know what I believe just like you know what you believe. Ask me anything, I will answer to the best of my ability.
Open Heart Searchery
2007-01-30 09:46:19 UTC
Of course you and I both know that it is not the "challenge of beliefs" that most believers are opposed to, but the condescending arrogance inherent in the harrassing spam that some people seem to feel an urge to hurl at others.
anonymous
2007-01-30 09:49:30 UTC
Because I personally have experienced God and you're just wasting your time if you try to make me believe that God exists. I don't attack you for being an atheist, so don't attack me for being a Christian.
BaseballGrrl
2007-01-30 09:47:48 UTC
I don't mind at all. I believe strongly enuf to know that my belief stands up to any criticism. I actually run into the opposite of your question more often. Athiests who are closed minded and unwilling to be challenged. What are you afraid of?
kj
2007-01-30 09:50:08 UTC
I don't care who challenges me. My faith is strong, and I'm not afraid of anything you can throw out. I also don't feel I have to prove anything to anyone just because they issue a challenge.
Cold Fart
2007-01-30 09:45:55 UTC
Being an Atheist, I think that living outside of the rules of what is "evil" is a good life. I know there will be challengers of my opinion, but they are entitled to it.
anonymous
2007-01-30 09:46:41 UTC
Let me tell you something about atheists: Even if there were a God they would still deny it. Atheists are contrary.

Atheists never bathe. And the only time they shower is when it rains.

Whereas church people are holy. So there.
applecrisp
2007-01-30 09:47:38 UTC
Why do you challenge what others believe. If you want to think that you were once slim that slithered out of the ocean more power to you. I know that I have a heavenly father who loves me and you.
Boilerfan
2007-01-30 09:47:53 UTC
You enjoy the argument perhaps. But lets face it, atheist have nothing to lose except their delusions. As a Christian I don't mind the challenges at all.
anonymous
2007-01-30 09:50:34 UTC
They always claim to know all the answers, so it shouldn't shake them, if it does, it is because they realize that maybe they don't know everything, this causes them to be uncomfortable. They don't like the voice of discord to burst thier bubble. I am not an atheist, by the way.
anonymous
2007-01-30 09:48:07 UTC
Good one, I always get thumbs down for just simply stating that I do not believe in god, jesus, or the devil. But boy, if somebody agrees, they get all the thumbs up. I say just leave us alone, it is better that way.
anonymous
2007-01-30 09:48:09 UTC
afraid of nothing when it comes to others believing to not believe or whatever they want, I do not challenge the atheists...I just don't exactly understand...but you believe what you want...I don't understand alot of thing people think and believe but I think you can thnk wha you want...why do I care what you believe?...
Maniaka
2007-01-30 09:46:08 UTC
I personally dont challenge anyone... if u believe or not thats not my problem, and i think is stupid of those who do that :D
FRANKFUSS
2007-01-30 09:47:07 UTC
Challenge is different from Attack. Anyone can debate a position, but you always attack and belittle those with faith or belief in God. You do not wish to debate, only disparage and demonize.
anonymous
2007-01-30 09:46:16 UTC
It's not the debate that bothers me as long as it isn't repetitive. I don't mind if people challenge my faith, hopefully through my example they will find out that it's real!
Smirnof_Ice
2007-01-30 09:56:47 UTC
Probably because people like competing,

well not all but again and war is money producer.
anonymous
2007-01-30 09:50:12 UTC
hmm interestingly enough i agree. being agnostic, and feeling that my beliefs are correct, i enjoy debating them.



it seems to me christians are insecure about their beliefs. when those who dont believe, are very secure in their beliefs. ironic.
Old Soul
2007-01-31 01:51:52 UTC
Actually, me as a believer ... you have the right to disbelieve ... and I have the right to believe ... it wouldn't be fair for you to have that right, and deny me my right to believe ...
Angel
2007-01-30 09:48:54 UTC
Good Question! Lets hear it!
St. Mike
2007-01-30 09:49:47 UTC
What you believe in (nothing) is your business, as for my family and I, we will worship YAHWEH.
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2007-01-30 09:49:34 UTC
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kja63
2007-01-30 09:45:42 UTC
I have faith in God, and therefore require no "challenges" of any sort -- either me giving them, or receiving them.



If your "faith" is as strong as mine, then you would not require challenging either.
anonymous
2007-01-30 09:55:25 UTC
i could care less one way or the other
anonymous
2007-01-30 09:47:18 UTC
cos theyr bummers n r scared if atheists question them then theyr secrets will be out
woodsonhannon53
2007-01-30 09:49:10 UTC
I welcome every ones opinion,I just do not agree and that is fine.It hurts no one to believe differently
anonymous
2007-01-30 09:45:48 UTC
GOOD QUESTION, but your going to piss them off
anonymous
2007-01-30 09:48:01 UTC
* They fear they may be wrong. Their faith is not strong.*
Peace
2007-01-30 09:47:22 UTC
I dont hate them .. i welcome them


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