Question:
Why are so called atheists even in this forum?
Enigma
2006-08-18 18:45:53 UTC
I think that is proof enough...if you don't believe in religion
why do you debate it or ask questions...sounds pretty insecure to me...could it be that you still haven't found what you're looking for
39 answers:
♥Mira♥
2006-08-18 18:50:19 UTC
USE YOUR SEARCH FUNCTION!!!!!!!!



You are probably the 20th person to ask that TODAY.
reverenceofme
2006-08-18 18:58:56 UTC
Why are so called Christians even in this forum?

I think that is proof enough...if you don't believe in reason and logic, why do you debate it or ask questions...sounds pretty insecure to me...could it be that you still haven't found what you're looking for?



Why are you here if you have concrete beliefs? My views are just as valid as yours, possibly more so.
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2006-08-21 16:32:27 UTC
You've got things a bit skewed. Allow me to set them straight.



It's true that I have no belief in any god or gods, and I've seen no evidence of the existence of any such entity. But of course I know that _religion_ exists -- it would be impossible to be unaware of it!



And honestly, I don't care what any grown man or woman chooses to believe. God, Allah, Yahweh, Vishnu, Quetzalcoatl, or the Flying Spaghetti Monster -- take your pick. Eternal life, eternal damnation, karma, reincarnation -- whatever gets you through the night. Incense or votive candles or the odor of sanctity or peyote -- go ahead and inhale, it's not hurting me.



But when you or any other believer presumes to make laws under which the rest of us must live -- that's when I speak up. When they attempt to teach nonsense on an equal footing with fact in the schools which my taxes pay for -- that's when I say "this is nonsense, so stop already." When believers spread lies and slander about non-believers who have done no wrong -- that's when I cry FOUL.



I couldn't do any of this if I felt insecure. So, sorry, I'm not going to go away and let you persist in your delusion that the whole world believes what you believe. Get used to it.
curls
2006-08-18 19:41:13 UTC
I ask questions about everything, I also like to debate almost anything. Why do I do this, well because I am a reasonably intelligent person who likes to learn and discuss things. Knowledge is often the key to tolerance and understanding of others and their cultures and beliefs. I am very content in my life and myself. To me religion is much like a language, history, math, science, etc. It is a part of my culture and all around me whether I believe in a God or not. It is also a big part of many cultures and history. Why wouldn't I find it interesting.
auntiegrav
2006-08-18 18:53:01 UTC
Because many of the questions about religion can best be answered by someone who isn't blinded by faith. Most people (especially Christians) don't spend a lot of time studying other religions or philosophy, so an outsider can often answer their questions more clearly than a 'true believer'.

It takes a village. Unless you're a Corporatist, then it takes a pillage.
2006-08-18 19:04:54 UTC
If you believe in god, why do you even debate with athiests?



Same line of reasoning. Neither gets the answers you WANT to hear, just the ones you SHOULD hear.



There's not an "athiesm" section, and if there was, there would be theists going there to bug the athiests. Religion and Spirituality INCLUDES ATHIESM AS A TOPIC.



If you don't like it, that's just TOO BAD!
bgbdwlf408
2006-08-18 18:52:35 UTC
Atheists don't believe in a supreme being. It's still a religion - just ask the military. And, the last time I checked, this was an OPEN forum, meaning anyone can answer. You don't have to believe in something just to talk about it...
thenextvinnie
2006-08-18 18:51:20 UTC
Many people who endlessly debate religion are definitely insecure about their own beliefs, whether they follow a particular religion or not. To ease their insecurities, they insist on fighting others and putting people down.



Some people, however, are simply curious as to what makes a believer tick. Some truly fail to comprehend why anyone could have faith in God, for example, and they might be curious as to why.
2006-08-19 06:46:13 UTC
You v'e made a good and valid point.

The only reason I check out the religious section is for the laughs.

Keep em coming people.



signed A.N. Atheist
2006-08-18 18:50:02 UTC
Why did you call this a forum?



Generally when I think of a forum I think of a place where intelligent people debate things intelligently.
Joe K
2006-08-18 18:58:28 UTC
Actually atheists probably think that believers in God are insecure and that we still have not found what we are looking for.
HappyCat
2006-08-18 19:11:40 UTC
I do believe in God, BUT I am not here to force what I believe in other people. If someone chooses to not believe in God that is their business. Everyone's beliefs and nonbeliefs should be respected. You don't have to agree with them, but you don't have to pick at people for what it is that they choose to believe or not to believe.



Ever hear of the commandment love one another?

Love thy neighbor as thyself?

Judge not lest you be judged?



It's that simple. Leave whatever it is that people choose to believe a lone
singirl
2006-08-18 18:56:36 UTC
Good question....but I believe that we as christians evolved from atheism once upon a time and having lived in the dark for so long...we have come to the light...same principle with the atheists...they are still in their search and still groping in the dark...so...shed some light and lead the way for them...guide them to the awesome faith experience as you had so that we may someday be one family in the face of God.!

Also could be that they are also testing our faith to see if we can be easily shaken.....where do you stand in this?
Tamsin
2006-08-18 19:04:27 UTC
Well than why do you religious people fight back. If you feel you are the better people than take the higher road and ignore it. Oh and by the way atheists and agnostics are usually far more spiritual people than exceedingly religious church goers.
Atheist81
2006-08-18 18:51:40 UTC
I enjoy intellectual debates on religion, politics and current events. I would say that being able to debate these subjects improves my education and my knowledge and yours.
Doug B
2006-08-18 18:56:56 UTC
This question keeps coming up because it's the same person only they have a different account.

Lots of ppl do that in case they get banned or something.
2006-08-18 19:00:11 UTC
i found my yahoo answers girlfriend asking questions in the religion section of yaho answers



thats why i am in this forum



we will meet and make sweet atheist love



are you jealous
2006-08-18 18:50:43 UTC
because silly little fundamentalists like you keep running them down and demanding they believe what you do. Even atheists have the right to defend their belief system, although you don't agree.
2006-08-18 18:54:24 UTC
Dearest writer,

I think atheists are in this chat room because the God hole in their heart is still empty, and they're searching. Only the Lord Jesus Christ can fill it. I am not preaching to share that my life changed when I did that at age 22, 25 years ago. No one can argue with a changed life of peace and happiness, purpose, wanting to help other people instead of hurt and wanting to be pleasing to our heavenly Father.

Thanks for the question, so those filled with emptiness and lonliness can realize that they don't have to live that way...and their eternal soul is at stake.

God Bless,

Darcel
dewcoons
2006-08-18 18:55:43 UTC
There are here because they have a religion: atheism. Like any other religion, it is based on a belief about God which can not be proven or disproven. It has to be taken by faith.



They have just as much right to defend their religion as any of the rest of us - as long as they keep it "civil". We welcome serious debate. We report insults, obscenities, or deliberate abuse by either side of the issue.
?
2006-08-20 08:49:01 UTC
jessezgl,ALL living beings know in their heart of hearts that god exists,Romans 1-19&20, atheist (Prodigal sons)are in this forum seeking a way to return to GOD. you said it, this forum is where they are looking for answers. I PRAY THAT THEY FIND IT,a lifeline to GOD. LOVE Whistle Britches
Kathryn™
2006-08-18 18:58:07 UTC
Since when did I become a "so called" atheist? I am an atheist. Are you a so called Christian? (Muslim, Jew, Hindu, etc.)
soulsearcher
2006-08-18 18:50:00 UTC
Why does someone ask this question twice a day every day?
2006-08-18 18:52:48 UTC
jessezgl_2005,

I told this yesterday as well. It's because they have a religion and are in denial about it. The religion is Atheism. If it wasn't a religion, then why would they want to preach it so much.
2006-08-18 19:03:34 UTC
maybe they are trying to taLk sense into peopLe, maybe they are interested in this stuff Like the peopLe in the ceLebrities section.
2006-08-18 18:58:42 UTC
Athiests have rights like any other person does! You can't tell them to go away, it's rude...even though most of them are rude to us, it's not good to be rude!
Lexi
2006-08-18 18:51:13 UTC
i could ask"why do Christians keep asking the same questions"?
2006-08-18 18:50:19 UTC
We are the voice of reason, here to try to enlighten others.
SkyRaider
2006-08-18 18:51:10 UTC
I think you have a point. Some atheists are so fanatical, they're almost like "born again atheists". That's just cynical, they should just be agnostic if they don't believe, but not start preaching against religion.
jfahd
2006-08-18 18:50:10 UTC
spoken like a close minded individual.
Cartman
2006-08-18 18:50:41 UTC
free country, freedom of speech or you might like this one "free will"
2006-08-18 18:54:46 UTC
because we can

we dont have to believe in god to go on that forum

A$$HOLE
?
2006-08-18 18:51:51 UTC
This is not a forum, it's q&a if you have'nt noticed???!!!!!
Flyleaf
2006-08-18 18:51:11 UTC
jessezgl, you own right now! Man, you're smart. *applauds you* Yep, I think a few ppl haven't found what they are looking for! :)
2006-08-18 18:49:57 UTC
No - wrong, wrong, wrong. Shouldn't you be preaching tolerance?
Ariell
2006-08-18 18:52:33 UTC
God brought them here to read his word, one way or another
Spookshow Baby
2006-08-18 18:52:35 UTC
*Rolls eyes*



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And, to borrow from Duckphup:



Think of it as a Public Service.



It is the moral responsibility and ethical duty of rational people to protect vulnerable minds from being contaminated by Bronze Age myths and willful ignorance. Beyond that, Christianity represents a huge threat to the well-being and survival of our country and to the whole world... and so it must be confronted.



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I prefer the term 'Rationalist', or 'Free Thinker', as opposed to 'atheist', or 'unbeliever', since those terms capture more of the people who think that religious beliefs are stupid and irrelevant than the term 'atheist' does. Those terms capture the main reason that people BECOME Atheists... i.e., they have learned how to THINK properly. Once someone learns how to think properly, religious belief is one of the first casualties. Religious belief... particularly the Abrahamic death cults of desert monotheism (Judaism, Christianity, Islam)... simply cannot withstand the glaring light of reason and critical thought. It just evaporates. Poof. The fact that Christians assert and promote such ridiculous beliefs is a clear indication that they CAN'T (or WON'T) think properly.



Rational people recognize that some people who visit this forum are truly, sincerely seeking answers... with an open mind (willing to honestly consider alternative possibilities), and with intellectual honesty (willingness to freely question and doubt their own presumptions). That being the case, it is the MORAL OBLIGATION of rational people to HELP them keep their minds open, and to make them aware of some of those alternative possibilities. Inevitably, those alternative possibilities DO NOT include things like a terrarium earth, talking snakes and donkeys, demons, friendly spirits, evil spirits, walking on water, multiplying loaves and fishes, people raising from the dead, stopping the sun in its tracks, parting seas, people being bodily sucked up into heaven (which, by the way, lies on the other side of the sky), world-wide floods, creating people from dust bunnies and ribs, magical trees of knowledge, gods speaking from burning bushes... and ritual cannibalism by eating god in the form of a cracker.



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"A thorough reading and understanding of the Bible is the surest path to atheism” ~ Donald Morgan

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So, when someone comes along in a PUBLIC FORUM, regurgitating dogmatic slogans, and the myths, superstitions, fairy tales and fantastical delusions of a tribe of ignorant Bronze Age fishermen and wandering goat herders, and declaring them to represent some kind of cosmic 'TRUTH' (without the least bit of credible evidence)... well, by golly, that just HAS TO BE confronted.



All faith-based religious belief is fully deserving of all the scorn and ridicule that can be heaped upon it. It is a simple matter of people with rational minds having a moral obligation to stand in opposition to willful ignorance. It is quite necessary that this be done, if we are to have any hope that the human race will survive and evolve to meet its full potential. So, when these myths, superstitions, fairy tales and fantastical delusions are presented and declared to 'TRUTH', in the venue of a PUBLIC FORUM, a confrontation is inevitable.



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"I am treated as evil by people who claim that they are being oppressed because they are not allowed to force me to practice what they do." ~ D. Dale Gulledge

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In order to have a rational view of the universe, it is necessary that one possess the mental faculties that facilitate reason, logic and critical thought. The things that are entailed by Christian beliefs demonstrate, beyond any doubt, a lack of those capabilities. Christians do serve a useful purpose in this forum, though... as a classic 'bad example'. They obligingly provide assertions about impossible happenings and circumstances, and magical delusions, and glaring misconceptions about science and nature and the universe... which can then be rationally confronted and exposed, and their preposterousness revealed.



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"The god who is reputed to have created fleas to keep dogs from moping over their situation must also have created fundamentalists to keep rationalists from getting flabby. Let us be duly thankful for our blessings." ~ Garrett Hardin

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Again... rational people are not trying to convert Christians... we are trying to protect people FROM Christians, and the insidious mind killing delusions and willful ignorance which they seek to spread, as if they were some kind of organized, dogmatic insanity virus.



However, rational people generally DO respect everyone's right (in the privacy of their own minds) to delude themselves in whatever fashion they deem fit.



Science, logic, reason, and critical thought have long been regarded (by religious people) as the enemies of religion. Considering that those are the tools of highly intelligent people, it should not come as a huge shock to learn that intelligence (or lack of it) has some connection to religious belief. In fact, there are about 40 studies, conducted over the past 80 years or so, that reveal a statistically significant NEGATIVE CORRELATION between intelligence and religiosity. In plainer language, that means that they found that the more intelligent a person is, the LESS likely that person is to be religious... or, conversely, the LESS intelligent a person is, the MORE likely that person is to be religious.



If you think about it, those findings make a lot of sense. Intelligence tests mainly provide an indication of reasoning ability and problem solving ability... logic, reason and critical thought. These are the very qualities that see through religion, and recognize it for what it is; i.e., religion cannot survive the glaring light of reason and critical thought. This was well understood by important figures in religious history. This is why the early church destroyed all the 'tainted' (non-canonical) writings, which were in conflict with dogma... Greek philosophy, medicine, mathematics, astronomy, engineering... all the good stuff. By this means, Christianity dragged humanity directly into the Dark Ages.



Just to illustrate the point, let's see what Martin Luther, the 'father' of protestantism, had to say about 'reason' and secular knowledge:



"Reason must be deluded, blinded, and destroyed. Faith must trample underfoot all reason, sense, and understanding, and whatever it sees must be put out of sight and ... know nothing but the word of God." ~ Martin Luther



"Reason is the greatest enemy that faith has; it never comes to the aid of spiritual things, but -- more frequently than not -- struggles against the divine Word, treating with contempt all that emanates from God." ~ Martin Luther



"There is on earth among all dangers no more dangerous thing than a richly endowed and adroit reason... Reason must be deluded, blinded, and destroyed." ~ Martin Luther



"Reason should be destroyed in all Christians." ~ Martin Luther



Christianity is essentially a criminal business enterprise... in fact, it is the world's longest running and most successful Multi-Level Marketing (MLM) scam. The product they are selling is the illusion of 'salvation'... and the 'pay plan' doesn't kick in until after you're dead. Meanwhile the victims (having been deceived into believing that it is their God-given duty) are out there busily recruiting MORE victims. What a racket! FORTUNATELY, it only works on those who are gullible enough, and sufficiently lacking in critical thinking skills, to fall for it. UNfortunately, THAT accounts for about 75% of the population of the USA. (There are a lot more people who DON'T know how to think properly than there are people who DO know how to think properly.) That is why there are a lot more religious people in the USA than there are 'Free-thinkers'... including Atheists. Also, Christians are generally too dense to realize that proselytizing (spreading the 'good news') is a key element of the Christian MLM MARKETING PLAN, which was instituted after Christianity lost the political power that had previously allowed them to simply torture and kill anybody who did not comply. Now, they obliviously try to just pester and annoy people to death, through persistent obnoxiousness. If you stop to think about it, you will realize that Christians are very much like the Borg, on Star Trek Next Generation: "You will be assimilated. Resistance is futile." I would not be surprised to learn that thoughts of Christianity provided the 'creative spark' for the Borg concept.



Interestingly, statistics on supernatural beliefs count the USA on a par with backward, developing Third World nations, rather than among modern, advanced industrial powers.



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"Selling eternal life is an unbeatable business, with no customers ever asking for their money back after the goods are not delivered." ~ Victor J. Stenger



"Businesses may come and go, but religion will last forever, for in no other endeavor does the consumer blame himself for product failure." ~ Harvard Lampoon, "Doon" (paraphrase)



http://www.religioustolerance.org/recons...

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mia2kl2002
2006-08-18 18:50:46 UTC
They are professional $H!T-disturbers.
John
2006-08-18 18:58:56 UTC
:)


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