Question:
Arizona shooter: "Ardent Atheist"?
Dynamite
2011-01-10 03:03:44 UTC
Does anyone else think that the media is trying to blame the Arizona shootings on the fact that the shooter was an "ardent atheist" and he smoked marijuana. It just seems like those two things are completely irrelevant. As this case goes on, I'm sure we'll here a lot more people using his atheism to scare the public into believing that this was the reason for his crazed shooting spree.
Also, why do some religious people think that atheist are such bad people. If you knew us, you would find that we share a lot of the same morals that you do.
Twelve answers:
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2011-01-10 05:20:36 UTC
I also saw a couple articles that hung a lot on the fact that he distrusted the US gov - enforcing the idea that anyone who questions them is dangerous and violent.



His phrase.... whats gov if words have no meaning? I think its a pretty valid question, with the lies that have come out recently, all the false promises we get every election year. And so on. I dont support attempted murder, but the question is valid.





I strongly disagree with the athiest = person who is mad at god.



I dont believe in Christianity or the Bible, but yeah, I have problems with both. Real or not, they absolutely effected me, my life, and my family. Just because I dont believe its real, doesnt mean that there arent people who do believe it, act like they believe it, and hurt a lot of other people in the process.



I think the religious are scared that they think, within themselves, that believing in god is the only thing that keeps them a moral person. That if there is no god, there is no morality.



How they can say god is unchanging morality though is beyond me.
2011-01-10 03:19:30 UTC
Without doubt, many atheists uphold high moral standards. It's also true that some Christians smoke marijuana! So you are right to question the veracity of mentioning such things as lack of belief in God alongside smoking marijuana.



However, there is an important connection that makes the points worth mentioning. The politician shot is a strong advocate for abortion. She supports legisltation designed to promote a woman's rights to abortion. Some are questioning whether she was shot for being pro-abortion. However, that is extremely unlikely because the guy suspected of her attempted murder does not have any belief in God, therefore he is more than likely to either be indifferent to abortion or to support it. It cannot be argued that the vast majority of atheists are against abortion! There are very few atheists who feel so strongly against abortion that they would take a gun and try to kill a politician in favour of abortion.



Now, if the guy had been a Bible-belt fundamentalist, you can be sure the press would have headlines saying "Religious fanatic tries to kill pro-abortion politician!" That has not happened because, if the guy is an atheist, no religious motives can be attached to his crime.



But people who believe in God, from a wide range of denominations and world faiths, will be praying for this lady's restoration to health, and for all the other victims of this hideous crime.
Sentinel
2011-01-10 03:11:56 UTC
Well it also blamed the `Tea Party` for spreading hatred but the guy was seriously disturbed regardless of his atheism or smoking habits.Strange how we put up with the way the media pontificates on everything these days as if it has the absolute right to be judge and jury,and tend to believe anything it wants us too.
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2016-10-22 04:16:56 UTC
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2011-01-10 03:20:20 UTC
I wouldn't believe anything the USian media said...

Too many agendas.



I've smoked ganja for over 40 years and I have NEVER picked up a gun and shot someone cos they had a political agenda different to mine... that only happens in USA and mozlim countries.



The bloke was a USian nutter with easy access to a gun.

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2011-01-10 03:07:37 UTC
Guilt by association is always a fallacy. All shooters have various backgrounds, I think the uniting factor is them being crazy/antisocial rather than anything else.
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2011-01-10 03:07:20 UTC
yes, and he also ate babby twice a week while aborting 3 women at a time in his dark basement with the help of satan in whom he totally believes



if the media is good at one thing, it's creating a mountain out of an ant mold
pittyakker
2011-01-10 03:05:48 UTC
The Arizona shooter is bonkers. Full stop
Ike in da Box
2011-01-10 03:12:06 UTC
It's an Oprah, Nancy Grace, Bill O'Reilly world.

It's the flavor of the week.

If it bleeds, it leads.
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2011-01-10 03:06:16 UTC
Even if ... 1 insane atheist. BILLIONS of unstable religious folks. Let me know when the score card of insanity even gets close.





:D
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2011-01-10 03:06:38 UTC
I once killed a bag of chips after smoking marijuana.
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2011-01-10 03:08:58 UTC
he is mentally sick and he is influenced by Marx and Adolf.



regards

J


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