Question:
Do any Jehovah's Witnesses disagree with anything Tears of Oberon has said on his blog?
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2009-12-26 16:01:05 UTC
I mean, if he isn't part of the Faithful and Discreet Slave, you definitely don't have to agree with every single word he says like you do the Watchtower, right?

And the fact that Vot also writes on the blog, isn't that a teaching role? Aren't there JW males who read the blog and learn spiritual truths from it? Isn't that a woman teaching a man?

Why can JWs write blogs, but they are not allowed to write books on spiritual topics?

Sounds like Tears of Oberon is looking for a foloowing of his own maybe?
Eighteen answers:
X
2009-12-29 04:56:22 UTC
Who in the poop is this "Tears of Oberon" that the Anti-JW bigots keep asking about?



If you'd ever care to read our publications, Jehovah's Witnesses have many books on spiritual topics. Interested in Jesus? Try reading "The Greatest Man Who Ever Lived". Interested in teaching a young one about Jesus? Try reading with them "Learn from the Great Teacher". Have an interest in the book of Revelation? Try reading "Revelation - It's Grand Climax at Hand!". Want to know how to have a strong and healthy relationship with Jehovah God? Try reading "Keep Yourselves in God's Love".



See? Many books written by Jehovah's Witnesses on spiritual things.
Ish Var Lan Salinger
2009-12-30 14:08:22 UTC
Your ID Pile seems fitting as you seem to be trying to drop a Steaming One in this attempted smear.



Ishvarlan is a Christian, One of Jehovah's Witnesses.



As for the Blog, Ish hasn't been there in quite a while, nor Does anyone "have to" agree with it. Christians CHOOSE to agree with the Bible and Bible teachings, so Clearly if something in "the Watchtower", or by ToOPoO or Vot or a person on a corner, or even when Satan "quoted" the scriptures, if what is said or typed is In line with/from the Scriptures, then YES Christians would agree with it.



As for the comment about Tears trying to get a following ... that's just funny.



I've had similar "Witnesses should avoid" claims made about me on Y!A which Also were laughable. It seems to be when said ID, in this case Tears, is Effectively defending the Bible ... the other criteria seems to be the Acuser feeling threatened/having NO Actual argument to defend themselves.



Mayhaps it'd behove you to pursue your own beliefs, whatever they are, so you can be comfortable with them, and *if needed* defend them, without trying to Finger point.
Tears of Oberon (Pack of One)
2009-12-30 13:54:48 UTC
Consider it an honor that Tears of Oberon is taking time (as well as violating his current no-internet stand) to respond to your behind the back jabs.



1. The link to the blog (for those curious or confused) is www.tearsofoberon.blogspot.com



2. If anyone disagrees with Tears of Oberon, then they are free to discuss the matter with Tears of Oberon in a setting of their choosing (either private or public).



3. One does not have to agree with every word that the Watchtower magazine says. Tears of Oberon personally does not agree with everything about, say, the Great Flood or the blood issue; however, just because Tears of Oberon may not agree on some insignificant point does NOT give him the right to start creating divisions, sects and fights within the Christian congregation.



4. Tears of Oberon has a public email address on both his blog and his Yahoo Answers account. However, he at no time remembers the asker ever bothering to contact him with questions or concerns about the blog. He seems to prefer instead to use underhanded attacks and avoid Tears of Oberon completely.



5. Vot is an honorary contributor and administrator, because Vot is a good friend of Tears of Oberon. Vot has not, however, as of yet written any articles or contributed any research.



6. As Christians and as Jehovah's Witnesses, we strive not to "step on the toes" of those who have authority to teach in the congregation, and we strive not to set up competition for the official teaching tools (the publications). That would amount to--once again--creating sects and divisions in the congregation, which the Bible repeatedly condemns. It would be no different than a Calculus student gathering up the other students in his class and attempting to teach them his own version of Calculus and call it better than the actual teacher's version. This could cause very serious problems. But if the student felt like, say, teaching the other children Physics or Geometry (subjects that wouldn't step on the toes of the Calculus teacher), then why should it be a problem?



Similarly, Tears of Oberon's blog does not seek to reinvent doctrine or redefine teachings that may already be easily found in official publications. He seeks only to work in gaps and in obscure areas commonly targeted by opposers purely for the fact that many JW's are not familiar with the subjects, and because the Society has better and more important things to do than to waste time answering such silly accusations day in and day out.



7. As far as Tears of Oberon knows, he has not yet built up what could be considered a "following." In fact, Tears of Oberon could care less about who follows him and who doesn't.



Sincerely,

Tears of Oberon
angelmusic
2009-12-30 15:35:20 UTC
Many times in having guests over for dinner, we get into some very interesting discussions of the Bible and share some of the research we have had time to do on our own.



As men and WOMEN (of which I am) we share and share alike. If others learn from this informal arrangement - fine. We (particularly as women) do not consider this as teaching, but an honest effort to share and encourage as the apostle Paul encouraged us to do in Romans 1:12.



These same types of discussions can be done via Internet, phone, letter, informally before and after our meetings at the Hall, and also at our conventions before and after.



We actually LOVE to talk about the Bible and all the wonderful things we have learned and found in its pages.



You might want to look at the account in Acts 18:26 - would Priscilla, a believing sister in the early Christian congregation, DARE teach Apollos? And yet that is what the scripture says.
Rick G
2009-12-28 15:20:05 UTC
Blogs are for posting thoughts, as far as I understand them. If Tears has thoughts, it must mean he is not a "mind controlled robot" that so many of the anti-JW claim we are.



So, why don't YOU write on YOUR blog and let people read YOUR thoughts?



Why are you worried what Tears writes?



And DULL, sorry that "pile" overlooks your thoughts. He is so inconsiderate!!



And as Vot points out, she is a smart woman who is a servant of Jehovah and IF she feels like writing something somewhere, that is HER business. Why is it yours?



Edited...



Well, just a few minutes of looking, I see that TOO is not teaching anything outside of the truth. He uses links and cites the FDS's source material.
MaryLee
2009-12-28 16:38:56 UTC
I don't have a clue as to what this all about, but I will say this Vot seems like a very sweet and faithful woman/servant of Jehovah God. I'm sure she would never say or do anything that would bring reproach upon Jehovah either. So what ever it is you're speaking of, I'd more than likely think it's a bunch of bullah...to put it kindly.



Steve, I adore your profile.



Agape to all my brothers and sister, and great answers.
Nevada Smith
2009-12-28 16:08:11 UTC
Sounds like a lot of conjecture to me but then I have never read the blog but I can also tell you that I am not required to listen to any single man whether of the faithful slave class or not [which by the way does not necessitate being on the governing body].
Leslie H
2009-12-28 15:13:53 UTC
I think Vot got you.

A discussion between brothers and sisters, or a comment in regard to a statement is hardly writing new scripture.

I have not seen TOO's blog, but it seems to have your undies in a bunch. Are you learning anything?

And for your edification-that means I'm giving you information, (teaching), women teach men all the time. We don't teach directly to the congregtion, but the brothers still learn from us. Ask my husband. He learns new stuff all the time, some of it he doesn't WANT to learn, but he learns it all the same...
Waiting For Paradise
2009-12-29 06:54:48 UTC
Hmmm....your question seems like a desperate attempt at driving a wedge between us and our brother and sister ToO and Vot.



Are you that afraid of Vot and ToO?



Is it that you can't handle the Bible truths they expose so logically and persuasively?
2009-12-26 23:21:32 UTC
Greetings,



Just one point: You said "JWs are not allowed to write books on spiritual topics."



Funny, I'm sittin' here looking at about a dozen books in my library written by Witnesses (outside the WTS) on topics ranging from Christian beliefs, Theology, God's Name in history, Translation, Bible Chronology, the Early Church Fathers, and etc.



OK, a second point: Witness women teach men all the time in our public ministry.



Where do people get such things?



BAR-ANERGES
Poя¢єℓαιη Vєѕѕєℓ (στην αλήθεια)
2009-12-29 08:19:25 UTC
I'm getting sick and tired of people always talking about Tears and Vot... & Abernathy the orange thingy.



Let's talk about me & my blog

It's called..

"Porcelain's dull Orange Tears of a Vot Vessel"... it's VERY controversial



~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

~~ yes okay I'll rename it to

"Porcelain's dull Orange Tears of a Vot Vessel from the land of Ginosko"



it's a blog of secrecy & intrigue, with a hint of romance & chicken soup
Reo
2009-12-29 05:57:33 UTC
JWs thumb me down all the time, that's worst than this so called blog.
Vöt Änårж
2009-12-28 15:04:19 UTC
Wow- Vot also writes on the blog?



Could you please show me what I supposedly wrote on that blog? [Before we even address the rest of the utter nonsense in your "question"]



The people on Y!A who seemingly can't live without thinking (and posting Qs about) Vot increase with each passing day.



Vot is just an average young lady who just happens to also be one of Jehovah's Witnesses. It's not her fault she's smarter than you.



xD
shawn10538
2009-12-26 18:37:11 UTC
It might be good if you posted a link to his blog. Then we could see it for ourselves. Until then I can't really comment on it.
Abernathy the Dull
2009-12-26 16:21:25 UTC
I'm getting sick and tired of people always talking about Tears and Vot.



What about me? Aren't I just as interesting and controversial as they are? Perhaps more so?
'maters Granny
2009-12-30 15:14:02 UTC
PV would you please post that link to your blog. I would like to comment on it. LOL
Ginosko92
2009-12-29 08:37:46 UTC
Porcelain can I join the blog!? ;p



***EDIT****

ROFL that is awesome! =)
IJAH
2009-12-28 16:30:16 UTC
leslie lol he's bunched.


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