Creation Evolution?

Question

I understand the big debate over creation and evolution, I'm Christian, but love science, biology, and physics, and, is there anyone else out there who would be fine if we could just say perhaps God created our existence through evolution? I mean, God can do whatever he wants, maybe that was just the way he wanted things to happen. I believe in the big bang theory as welll, but whos to say God didnt make it happen? Does anybody else dare to dwell on this with me?

Answer 1

You can't have it both ways since by definition evolution means a change through natural selection, mutation, and genetic drift unencumbered by any outside source.

Answer 2

Yes, I've never understood why God and evolution can't both be true. Why must the Bible be taken literally?



FYI, there isn't really a "big debate" over creation and evolution. Virtually all credible scientists (Christian and otherwise) dismiss the ideas of Creationism as invalid.

Answer 3

Sure, I'm game with accepting that it's entirely possible that a God did create all these things.



I just dislike people going ahead and assuming this is absolute truth, then trying to push that on other people even though there is reasonable doubt.



It's like ordering out for lunch at the office. Everybody in the room but you might want Chinese, and they say, "Okay guys, we're ordering Chinese, is this all right?" But before you can get a word in edgewise, "Okay Chinese it is, calling them now gotta run bye!!"

Answer 4

I'm with you on that. The Bible does not give the HOW of creation, and I have no problem believing God caused the big bang or evolution of species. I think if all was known the Bible would serve to corroborate science and vice versa.

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Answer 5

absolutely no problem. As long as you don't take the creation story literally but rather as a story which is supposed to show that god gives live there are no problems.

Genesis is written according to the understanding of the people at that time. Given how little understanding of evolution many people have in current times, can you imagine trying to sell evolutionary theory 2000 years ago?

Answer 6

No.



If God made Adam a mature fully grown man, couldn't He also have created a mature earth and universe? Not to deceive people because He told us exactly how He did it in Genesis. If He created a mature Adam why not a mature earth that could support life? Some of you may have put your trust more in men than in God. Did God leave us His Fingerprints of Creation? Check out the link.



-Sir Isaac Newton, greatest scientist in history.:

"This most beautiful system of sun, planets, and comets could only proceed from the counsel and domination of an intelligent and powerful Being . . . He governs all things, and knows all things that are or can be done."



http://incolor.inebraska.com/stuart/newton.htm



Isaiah 51:13 (New King James Version)

And you forget the LORD your Maker,

Who stretched out the heavens

And laid the foundations of the earth;

Answer 7

Well, not to rain on your parade, but any god using evolution as a means to evolve humans is a right bastard, given the cruel survival race of nature and the fact that 99.9% species that ever lived are extinct. This would fit rather well with the old testament god, he was a bit of a bastard too.



Additionally, it implies humans are merely a waypoint on the road of evolution, not some exalted end product.

Answer 8

As a Christian, I believe that God created Adam from dirt, and then breathed life into him through his nostrils. In other words, I believe in the Bible. But I understand what you are trying to do. You are trying to justify both science and God, because you are a thinker, and you're just trying to make sense of it all. So how about this: Since God is capable of anything, can't he simply make it look like we evolved from apes to test our faith? Isn't he smart enough to create fossils, half man, half ape bones or whatever? And here's another one. Satan has power. Does Satan have the power to create these things in order to undermine your faith? I have often in the past tried to justify scientific evidence, and the Bible, but have grown to accept the Bible as the Truth, and science as foolishness in the eyes of God.

Answer 9

i'm with you on this one. i believe in a God so great and powerful that anything material (from fossils to ocean tides) is easily manipulated. i read a couple of interesting articles in the New Scientist magazine (10 november 2007) which addressed the problems people encounter when trying to reconcile science and religion. there are plenty of sound scientific minds out there which do not reject religion. i think what helps me when considering religious texts is to find out as much as i can about the context in which they were written. i am very careful in my interpretations and try not to be too literal about the meanings. i am always painfully aware of how little i know but it makes it exciting to look forward to gaining understanding.



i wonder how many christians bother to search out and read religious manuscripts which, possibly for political reasons, were left/edited out of the current editions. i am currently attempting to find out more about the ethiopian orthodox bible which (as mentioned by another user in this section) contains books not in christian bibles. things like that are quite intriguing and reinforce my view that it is not as important to subscribe to one particular ideology as it is to live well and continue to seek spiritual understanding. it's all a learning curve...

Answer 10

Depends. Is God an actual living, intelligent entity? If so, then theistic evolution is your answer. If, however, God is merely a soulless lawmaking machine, then go with the 6 day creation.

Answer 11

If you actually do believe in such a god as the christian god, then what the hell is the point?



Why would a being capable of omniscience bother with evolution? Such a being really could create the universe in 1 second. Evolution would be a waste of time to such a being.



You can't be a christian and accept evolution and understand it at the same time.

Answer 12

Creation and evolution discuss two totally separate things -



CREATION 'explains' how life started

EVOLUTION explains how new species come about.



In the original Hebrew "Yom" means "day", however, at that point the word "Yom" could have meant millions of years; after all the sun wasn't created until the fourth "day".

Answer 13

I think if you allow for God to be the *Great Mystery* and accept almost all of Genesis as allegory and fable you would be fine.



Except for a few extremist preachers in the fundamentalist movements that is how most Priests view that section of the bible anyhow.

Answer 14

Do what makes you happy.

BUT

What would god actually DO once he had set the ball in motion? After the big bang and origin of life, everything happened through cause and effect. There would be no need for god

Answer 15

Problem with the Christian God and your theory - he must have known what was going to come out in the end i.e. humans.



As an atheist I can never say that something didn't start or trigger the big bang. Maybe something did or someone did but is that someone an interventionist God who creates an infinite universe but concentrates all his effort and will on one speck of it? Very doubtful.

Answer 16

Both evolution and creation are correct. History proved that there just can't be only one truth. Everybody knows that a coin has two sides. There can't be day without the existence of the night and white wouldn't make any sense without black. Many people didn't get it and made huge mistakes. One of them was Hitler. I believe in God and I love science.

Answer 17

If you accept evolution and science as fact,how can you possibly believe in any of the bible?

Check out the "stories of Gilgamesh" and compare the stories with what you have read in the bible whilst reminding yourself these stories predate christianity judaism and all major religions by 3000 years.....

Answer 18

YES science and theology most certainly can be reconciled and "blend' together. They compliment each other. One doesn't have the entire truth without having both, by ignoring one for the other.

Answer 19

Not only is there someone who thinks it would be fine but that is the dominant position amongst all Christian Denominations except for a few fundamentalist ones.



Have a read of the Pope on the subject:



http://www.amazon.com/gp/reader/0802841066/ref=sib_dp_pt/103-9415777-2431853#reader-link

Answer 20

I'm pretty sure that's the stance a lot of Christians have taken on the matter. If you don't think that God will rain lava from the sky if you interpret the Bible non-literally, it makes sense.

Answer 21

Even if i wasnt a christian,,,evolution is ridiculous on its face,,,

i would be more inclined to believe in aliens planting us here than that,,,even without Faith Evolution is one of the most flawed ignorant things man has ever concocted...

Im shocked that so called intelligent ppl even entertain this..

my paw paw was a monkey and his was a fish and the fish came from an explosion,,,,last time i checked ,,things cannot be exploded to life,,explosions kill cells ,,they do not compose them,,,and life is a complicated composition..

Answer 22

Actually the Catholic church accepts evolution as of what it is, the explanation for the diversity of the species.

Answer 23

Then we can apply Occam's Razor and remove God from the equation.

Answer 24

I understand what you are saying, but arnt you just filling the holes in scientific knowledge with God because we dont know otherwise?

Answer 25

both have flaws, actually. genesis is a myth. you cannot interpret it literally, if genesis is really true. some part of evolution is hard to prove also.

Answer 26

I'm a Christian and I totally agree that creation is the result of evolution!



The world being created in 6 days does not discredit evolution. Am I not a result of creation... yet, I was not created in those 6 days. I have evolved as a result of what my forefathers have evolved from...



But who really knows??? All I know is that I love God and I know that he is the reason for my being here... and him alone!

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Answer 27

Educated Christians accept evolution. They know it's undeniably true, because of the mountains of evidence, but they somehow reconcile it with their religious beliefs.

Answer 28

No, because the Bible explains creation and how it happened. If you are a Christian then you follow the Bible and its truth. Believing evolution and creation is kinda being a hipocrite...

Answer 29

...... Simply PUT......



" GOD... can do whatever He wants.... "BUT"... is Limited by.. HIS RIGHTEOUS HOLINESS... and... HIS WORD !"



HE cannot forgive SIN... without A Perfect Sacrifice...."Christ Jesus!"



http://www.icr.org/



Thanks, RR

Answer 30

Been there. Tried to homestead that ground. Then I realized that evolutionism teaches that death, and survival of the fittest created man, and Scripture teaches that YHVH created man, and that sin brought death. The two really can't be harmonized. I didn't want to be occupying ground that was calling YHVH a liar.

Answer 31

Impossible to believe both...



You cannot assume that each 'day' in Genesis is millions of years because the "sun , moon, and stars" were created the day AFTER the "plants, and green trees"... (Not possible if there were millions of yrs.)



Don't be deceived...

The order of creation days DOES NOT allow for each 'day' to be millions of years. Read Exodus 20:11

Answer 32

who ever thinks humans evolved from monkeys is a dumb aasss , stupid,pathetic person

Answer 33

.... Fence-sitter. ¬_¬