Why does the Biblical god lie?

Question

Ezekiel 14:9 "... I the LORD have deceived...."

Not only does the Biblical god admit to lying in the previous verse, there are other verses that declare that this god lies.

2 Thessalonians 2:11 "...God shall send them strong delusion...."
1 Kings 22:23 "...the LORD hath put a lying spirit in the mouth of all these thy prophets, and the LORD hath spoken evil concerning thee."
2 Chronicles 18:22 "...the LORD hath put a lying spirit in the mouth of these thy prophets, and the LORD hath spoken evil against thee."
Jeremiah 4:10 "...Ah, Lord GOD! surely thou hast greatly deceived this people and Jerusalem...."
Jeremiah 20:7 "...O LORD, thou hast deceived me...."


This is supposedly a loving and just god, a god that says lying is wrong, why would such a god intentionally lie to people, then turn around an punish the people for believing the very lies it tells them? Why does the Biblical god lie when it says lying is wrong?

Answer 1

Every Christian knows that white lies are ok

Answer 2

Nice try, but you left off the part of the verse that means anything. Ezekiel 14:9 " And if a prophet is deceived into giving a message, it is because I, the LORD, have deceived that prophet. I will lift my fist against such prophets and cut them off from the community of Israel." That is the complete text. And you won't understand what God is telling us unless you read the many verses before this one verse. All you atheists are quite truthfully the same. You search for one little thing in the Bible and once you find it you automatically think that you are a genius for "proving God doesn't exist." Next time actually use your mind and figure out the deeper meaning behind these Bible verses.

Answer 3

context fool, context



And if the prophet be deceived when he hath spoken a thing,.... That is pleasing to men, and is not true, in hope of reward and applause, but it never comes to pass, and his expectations are not answered:



I the Lord have deceived that prophet; by sending a lying spirit to him, as to Ahab's prophets, 1 Kings 22:22; by giving him up to strong delusions, to believe a lie, and publish it, 2 Thessalonians 2:11; and to his own heart's lusts; being willing, for the sake of gain, to prophesy smooth things, though false to the people, promising them peace when there was none; and then by frustrating his predictions, and disappointing him of his ends and views. R. Saadiah interprets this, as Kimchi observes, of God revealing and making it manifest that he was deceived; but more is meant by it than this, or even a bare permission; for though God is not the author of sin, yet he wills it to be done for wise ends and purposes, and sometimes in a way of judgment, as a punishment for sin; and which was the case here; both with respect to the prophet that deceived, who as the fruit of his sin, his covetousness, was given up in just judgment to a reprobate mind; and the people that were deceived, who, rejecting the true prophets of the Lord, were willing to have smooth things prophesied to them:



and I will stretch out my hand upon them; his avenging hand; the stroke of his power, as the Targum; a heavy one, and that for giving heed to a lying spirit; for uttering falsehood, and that with a wicked design, to gain the applause of the people, or for filthy lucre's sake:



and I will destroy him from the midst of my people Israel; by some sore judgment or sudden death, and so be made a public example of.

Answer 4

Titus 1:2 states God "cannot lie." There are many instances in the Bible and you have listed some scriptures where humans think God has lied or deceived them. However, this is based on their own misunderstanding. Even Jesus cried out at Matthew 27:46 - "“My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?” Clearly, he was not forsaken.

Answer 5

first of all you need to understand the entire bible, and then see how these verses are consistent. First off, God is a loving God to those who love Him. God does not love everyone, He loves His elect and hates "sinners" - meaning those who are not cleansed through Jesus blood, because of course we are all sinners. Get it out of your head that "God loves everyone" because this is not in the bible (Psalm 5:5 tells us of God's hatred as does Romans 9 and lots of other places). Now think of Pharoah - God did not allow Pharoah to understand His truth (he "hardened' Him) because Pharoah's reason for existence was not to love God. He existed so that God could show His wrath against sin (Romans 9:17). Now God himself can not lie, as lying is a sin. However, He can allow evil spirits to lie and cause even His followers to lie. Even Satan is under God's control (ie what Satan can and can't do). Read the book of JOB. Satan had to get permission before he could do various things to Job or his family. God can stop these evil spirits if He so willed, but He doesn't. He allows them to create lies and falsehoods. Because He has the ability to stop it, but He doesn't, it is said that it is of Him.

Answer 6

right here's a query; why could you even worry with ANY text cloth that has as its source a guy who went right into a cave on my own and got here out with a set of rules that a disembodied voice gave to him? We already have fantasy and technology fiction as categories for examining components,can we prefer yet another titled faith? Moses become in an altered physique of innovations by way of oxygen deprivation.So become Mohammad.

Answer 7

don't quote mine. it aggravates people. post the full thing or don't post

Answer 8

Because it cannot stand.

Answer 9

God created a set number of angels 30 billion?; 1/3 of all angels rebelled 10 billion?God turned the rebels into spiritual darkness (demons) and expelled them from heaven. there was a void in heaven of 10 billion open seats.God decided to create humans to replace the demons. God said that He will let demons trick people into following them, but when 10 billion seats in heaven are filled, God will send demons and those who follow demons to hell. demons dress in fake human skin and fly in ufo ships;pretend to be angels of light, ghosts, pagan gods, greys, ouija board movers.jigsaw from saw movie is not only gay but he's antichrist. when people will look at jigsaw, they will see many angels surrounding jigsaw, but in reality those are demons. the main demon is black with red eyes. antichrist is white with red eyes. if anyone worships jigsaw, they'll go to hell 100%. also, soon the world government will be giving mandatory small grey world passport. when people stretch their hands to receive the small grey world passport, a small green electronic tattoo with sixes will be given by lasers. if anyone receives this tattoo, they'll go to hell 100%. people who kill themselves wind up in hell 100%. also, people who blaspheme the Holy Spirit, go to hell as well. God is one but decides to reveal Himself to the world in three distinct persons: as God the Father, as God the Son (Jesus Christ), and as God the Holy Spirit. now, let's switch to the ufo bases that the demons built. they are located on the moon, in lake baikal, underneath mariana trench (atlantis is here), and inside a fake mountain in tibet (buddhists consider this mountain holy, but as was mentioned, pagan gods are demons). there was also a time when 200 angels told God that they would fare better than humans if they had human bodies (angels and demons don't have bodies - they're just spirits). God told them that He could give them human bodies but if they mess up, He'll punish them severely. these 200 spirits agreed to take this deal. what happened was that when these 200 angels (aka anunaki in pagan beliefs) descended on a mountain in middle east, they saw beautiful female descendents of cain, and took them wives for themselves. these 200 anunaki had giants as kids. giants built the pyramids and other colossal monuments around the world. anunaki taught witchcraft, astrology, blood drinking, human sacrifice, abortion, art of war, etc. God became angry and punished the world for following anunaki. anunaki were imprisoned underneath a desert in middle east. 300 thousand giants and 700 thousand people who followed anunaki and other demons were drowned in world flood. only 8 people were saved in the flood. me and u are descendents of these 8 (noah with his wife, and their three sons with three daughters-in-law) who survived in an ark-ship. animals that knelt before noah went into the ark with noah. animals that didn't kneel were drowned. a bit later, nimrod (world leader) and his wife semiramis (she was in charge of a brothel) created a one state pagan religion (sun-moon-bull-sex worship). nimrod was also in charge of building the tower of babel. this tower was built by masons who wanted to reach heaven and fight God and establish pagan religion in heaven. this was silly, to say the least. God burned the top third of this tower, sank the bottom third inside the earth, and changed the original language into 70 different languages. so, one third of builders killed each other because of misunderstanding, one third ran away, and one third were cursed to become apemen and elephantmen. silly atheists claim that we come from apes when in reality apemen were cursed masons. hindu religion has an elephantman deity. this is absurd. let's get to something even weirder. 80 foot dinosaurs live beneath the earth. they will soon come out through lakes and sinkholes. this is a punishment for spreading ideas of evolution. major climate change will follow. there won't be any clean water left. world government will hide food on purpose too. stores with food will be set up to laser people with the above-mentioned evil tattoo. it's better to die from hunger than receive this tattoo. now, let's go to the main message of christianity. God incarnated (took on human body) to die for our sins so that we can go to heaven. now why was this necessary? well, remember the 10 billion seats from before? yep, they're all empty because everyone went to hell. there were only 2 people that went to heaven (enoch and elijah). so, God didn't want all people to burn in hell, so He provided a cure for this - He died on the cross for our sins and went to hell to pick "believers in Him during their lives on earth" to take them to heaven. now most people go to hell too, but christians don't. why? because God said that if you believe in what He did for you on the cross, and feel sorry for your sins, and stop sinning, you'll go to heaven.