Question:
Nonbelievers, a few questions?
Allie
2009-07-30 22:09:03 UTC
I am a Christian but by no means am i demeaning your beliefs. I have atheist and agnostic friends. I am not criticizing ya'll. I am just curious...
Why do you not believe in God?
If there is no proof of a God but none against the idea,
why not worship anyways?
Have you ever tried to believe?
How long have you been a non-believer?
Do you hate God?
What if you are wrong?

Seriously, i am just wondering.
26 answers:
Jordan
2009-07-30 22:27:09 UTC
-Why do you not believe in God?



There's no proof, and no reason for me to.



-If there is no proof of a God but none against the idea,

why not worship anyways?



It's time consuming and against my personality.



-Have you ever tried to believe?



So many times. I still get into spells where I try so hard. For my family, my friends, my church, my family's friends. But I just can't. I mean it's like they know I don't believe, but it's becoming more and more difficult to hide. I have to watch what I say, and by that I mean I have to be careful of how I describe my opinions on death, or politics, since none of it is bible/God based.



So yes, I try very hard. But I can't.



-How long have you been a non-believer?



Since 6th grade. So quite awhile.



-Do you hate God?



I hate what God does to people. How the beliefs that come from that book turn should-be kindreds away from each other, I despise it. Most hate crimes are based off sassy Christians thinking it's the right thing to do. No one should ever be degraded for their lifestyle, opinions, or choices.



-What if you are wrong?



If I'm wrong, I'll repent. But as of now, I believe I'm not.
Allen
2009-07-31 05:20:07 UTC
Why do you not believe in God?

If there is no proof of a God but none against the idea,

why not worship anyways?



I'll answer both at once... If I were to worship a god, it wouldn't be the christian one anyway. He is repulsive. I choose the FSM, or some other god worth my praise. Maybe just the SUN in general. That is worth some awe.



I used to believe... I was raised Mormon.



I stopped believing at about 16, I doubted my whole life.



I hate the idea that represents the christian god. I can't hate what doesn't exist.



This last one is pascals wager. What if you're wrong, and the FSM is the real god? Or thor? Or . The question is flawed because it limits the outcome to only YOU right, or ME right. We both can be wrong you know.



I figure the more specific the information on the god, the higher likelihood that god is false. If I were to list out the hair color, and eating habits of a god, that is pretty specific, and of course we have no proof of it. So the chance I'm right gets smaller and smaller the more data I add.



Sure if I spout off enough stuff, I may have gotten one thing right... But ultimately my description is a 'MISS'.



As a result the Christians have a pretty specific list of what to do, what not to do, what to think, what not to think, etc. And not every list is the same!!!!!! The Christians don't worship one god. They worship thousands of different gods!!!! They all just had the 'same son'. LOL. But some of their gods don't care if I'm gay, and others do! You get the point yes???



If the god you worship and believe exists would do something differently then the god of the guy sitting next to you in church... Do you worship the same god? Or is one of you wrong? And going to hell anyway?
2009-07-31 05:17:58 UTC
I think if GOd was real he must be one evil and stupid son of a *****.

#1 He doesn't appear.

#2 I would never worship such a being even if it meant hell. Just look around you.. An endless struggle for human rights, disease, poverty, famine, death, war, destruction, prejudice, hate, corruption, and much more.

First off, if there was a God I'd really like to think he wouldn't leave out basic rights like life, "liberty and the persuit of happiness." None of us have that right. None of us have the right to food, shelter, or drinkable water either. Not the right. Real rights can't be taken away.

So if this is the best god can do, I'm not impressed. This shouldn't be on the resume of a supreme being. Or maybe, just maybe, he doesn't give a ****?



And here's another thing: hell. I hate to be repetitive, but what the hell?!



If I had a child and they didn't love me, I wouldn't lock them up in my closet of eternal flame to make them kick and scream and cry and burn in torture and anguish and suffering until the end of time.

Even if they committed a crime like murder, I wouldn't do that. I couldn't. I'd call the police on them, sure, but I wouldn't do sick, horrible tortures. Unlike god. That's the kind of crap you'd expect from an amoral sociopathic sadist.

I'm more moral than god. You're more moral than god.

I'd sooner worship you.

#3 I was very religious until my parents died. That made me think what the hell did I do? Then did a little research, read the bible a few times then I was shocked.

#4 I've been a non-believer for two years.

#5 No, I don't hate God because he doesn't exist

#6 then I will burn to hell with a smile on my face knowing that I didn't worship such a monster.
Kyuremos
2009-07-31 05:16:55 UTC
1. I do not believe because there is no evidence that corroborates "his" existence. Why do you not believe in other gods, or say, unicorns and leprechauns?



2. Worshiping a non-existent being is pointless.



3. I was once a Christian, but I became an atheist by age 12.



4. I have been an atheist for 3 years.



5. I cannot hate something that doesn't exist. It would be like hating the tooth fairy of Santa Claus



6. What if you are wrong in not following Thor, Zeus, Mithra, Vishnu, Horus, Allah, Yahweh, or Odin?
2009-07-31 05:49:28 UTC
I was a Christian but became an atheist because the worship of an invisible deity was so illogical.



There is no evidence of a god or gods. There have been thousands and thousands of gods through thousands of years and there has never been any evidence of any of them.



What if you are wrong? It goes both ways. But for you it could mean that you've wasted your whole life believing in something that doesn't exist.



How can I hate something that for me doesn't exist?



That's like being asked to prove that something I don't believe in doesn't exist!



I find that Christians(without being rude) are not able to think about their belief logically and with a clear and unaffected or unbiased mind.



Why did god, if he is all-powerful and almighty, able to leap planet Earth in a single bound, choose to reveal himself to a tiny group of men in a tiny part of the Middle East, 4.5 billion years after Earth began when he could have shouted in one big bellow and the whole population of planet Earth would have known all at once who he was and what his purpose was. It would have solved most of the World's problems. Think about that logically. If you can come up with one sound reason why god chose to do that I will concede a little.



Think about this. I am the new president. I have all of the World's media at my fingertips, I make one phone call and I can hook up and tell the whole world, all at once, all at the same time that I am the new president.



That is what I am capable of. Why would I then go down to a corner store in Ulysses, Kansas and say to the 12 people in there "Hey guys, I'm the new president, please start going around the whole World on foot or donkey and start telling everyone that you've heard from me?"



Can you believe that would happen?



"Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent.

Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent.

Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil?

Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?"

- Epicurus
Barabas
2009-07-31 05:42:32 UTC
1.Why do you not believe in God?-- I have honestly never seen anything to lead me to the conclusion that any god actually exists.

2.If there is no proof of a God but none against the idea,

why not worship anyways?-- You must know the answer to that question, Its the same reason you do not pray to multiple gods just to be safe. You do not believe that the Hindu gods exist do you? Well close to a billion people do. I could no more worship your god than you could theirs.

3. Have you ever tried to believe?-- I was raised to believe in god went to church etc. but I was also raised to take responsibility for my own actions and choices. When I began to ask people questions about the christian god they at first gave me poorly thought out and disparate answers. Then they became upset at the idea I would even ask, eventually I was told to stop asking questions at all. I continued to look for answers everywhere from the library to a Catholic college. No human god stands up to close scrutiny.

4. How long have you been a non-believer?-- I began to question in my early teens but I was in my 20's before I really put a name to it. I knew before I went into the marines that I was not a christian but had not ruled myself an outright atheists for a couple more years.

5.Do you hate God?-- how could I, I can not hate god anymore than you could hate dragons or Unicorns. No god is real therefore not an aspect of my life or thought process.

6. What if you are wrong? -- What if you are? by your own calculation over 4 billion of the people alive today will burn in hell. Not to mention the countless before and after them. I live my life the best way I know how. I love my wife and children I work hard to provide a home and future for them. I laugh , I learn, and I honestly enjoy being alive. Does it hurt me to look at my little girls and know that some day they will cease to exist, that there is no eternal reward waiting for them. Of course it does but wishing for it or praying will not make it true. I have no teddy bear or security blanket and don't look for one life is what it is and I am content.
Guess who's going to Hell?
2009-07-31 05:20:51 UTC
I don't believe in gods because they appear not to exist. In order to be consistent and not be a hypocrite I must not believe, because I don't believe in anything else that appears not to exist either (nobody does, it's only religion that gets a pass in this department).



I don't worship anyway because that would be dishonest, you're asking people to believe something that doesn't appear to be true (and in fact appears to be untrue).



I've neve tried to believe anything, the stuff that appears to be real I believe, but it really takes no effort. It's only things that aren't true that require effort to believe.



I've never been a believer.



I don't hate gods, hate is a waste of time and hating things that don't exist doubly so. I certainly dislike the idea of god that is presented by most theists, this god appears nothing more than an ignorant primitive human being to me.



If I'm wrong at least I've been honest, I don't see that there's any other choice
Anna
2009-07-31 05:15:18 UTC
- No evidence.

- There is tons of evidence against the Abramamic god.

- There are millions of gods created by man, why would I pick yours? They're all just about as plausible.

- I was a Christian the first twelve years of my life.

- Two years.

- I don't hate something that doesn't exist.

- What if we're both wrong and it's actually the Flying Spaghetti Monster? The odds aren't great enough for me to even consider that; I might as well worry that I'm wrong about Unicorns.
Todd
2009-07-31 05:20:35 UTC
If there is no proof either way that there is a god then why worship? Why live my life by rules other people decide to make based on a book that doesn't apply to me? I am content with my life, happy, have a loving family, i know right from wrong, i don't live by my own rules. I follow the law. I don't think i ever believed, I don't like how some stories are meant to be taken as literal, and some as metaphors in the bible, if there is a god, it makes more sense that it created the world, just to watch it, that is all, not to have worship, why would god need worship? its god? why would one group of people be the chosen? what about the other religions before Christianity? what if we are just a by product of aliens? would they be our god? what about what created them?
The Lone Myth
2009-07-31 05:15:33 UTC
There is no proof against the idea of a God, but there is proof against the word of the bible (I accept your belief, I've just seen good evidence that the word of god is quite contradictory and fallible).



I tried to believe the first time I read the bible, but was put off.



I can't hate something I don't believe in.



It would be quite hard to figure out which God is the right one.
Just Ragles
2009-07-31 05:15:06 UTC
1. There is no proof indicating any gods.

2. You are invoking Pascal's Wager, and Pascal was a loser.

3. No, I was born an atheist and raised by nonreligious parents. Atheism has always been my default.

4. 18 years, my entire life.

5. Can't hate what doesn't exist.

6. Then I'm wrong and I'll still have lived a good life.
god_of_the_accursed
2009-07-31 05:20:28 UTC
1) Because there is no evidence/reason to make me think so

2) Pascal's Wager. Look it up

3) I was a Christian for 14 years of my life

4) It's been about 5 years since I was able to honestly say I didn't believe in a god

5) Do you hate Krishna? What about Odin?



What is this proof then. I would be very eager to see it, if you don't want to post it hear then please email me. Every time someone says this I make this challenge yet no one has emailed me about it.



EDIT: forgot about number 6



What if I'm wrong? Then I'm wrong. But whose to say you are right? What if you are wrong and it's really Odin that exists. Or what if you are wrong and this god doesn't really care whether you believed or not but instead how you acted on this earth?
2009-07-31 05:30:05 UTC
Your are assuming that there is a god and I just don't believe in him. Actually I have no understanding of what you mean when you speak of god. Wrong about what? The god of the bible is just crazy stuff to me, Why would I hate something that doesn't exist to me? I don't like when religious people condemn my loved ones to hell.. that is pretty rude and pretty unbelievable. The concept of hell along with a loving god... I know they say that people put themselves in hell but come now really? Innocent children who never heard of jesus or who heard of jesus but stayed faithful to their own religion.. all the children who live such brutal lives in misery and die in anguish and starvation and then they are condemned to hell? I don't understand that... although they do make some interesting excuses for why this is allowed by a loving god



My parents never pushed the idea of a god on me.. thank goodness... How could I try to believe something that is just ridiculous to me, something that makes no rational sense. Wrong about what... a creator.... who created him?... Think logically... how do I prove something doesn't exist... think rationally. Wrong about what?



I believe life is a wonderful sacred thing. I am looking out at what is, I don't speculate about what might be, I try to see things as they actually are without fantasy or illusions. Your telling me there is some kind of a god... I don't see it... you want me to believe like you do.. no thank you.. I will think for myself and be a light unto myself. you do what you want do .. all the best for you... Oh and if you say there is proof that god exists then it must be true... never mind... What god is he talking about? never mind
2009-07-31 05:18:35 UTC
There is no evidence that there is a god, and if you think about it...I mean REALLY think about it, it all sounds absurd.



Some of us don't worship because we take exception to the barbaric rituals, such as the blood drinking ceremony that most christian churches take part in. We also don't like one person dictating how to think, calling scientists liars, and telling us it is our duty to hate gays or Muslims.



We don't "hate" god any more than we hate the Easter bunny.



What we do hate is religious people trying to force their religion into out government, public schools and into our lives.



As for your last question....is it possible to ask yourself the same question?
2009-07-31 05:21:36 UTC
You should also ask your atheist friends the same questions.



I don't hate god, I only hate what followers of god do, say, and eventually become. I'm tired of hearing preachers preach hate towards others who do not share their beliefs or politics. It's petty and demoralizing. I'm tired of hearing christians judge people behind their backs, I'm tired of christians judging the salvation of others constantly. I hate how creationism makes faith look stupid, and yet they insist on a literal interpretation.



I can't in good conscience accept this type of faith. Faith in the christian god has the power to change people for the worse.
2009-07-31 07:04:59 UTC
I at one point was a theist with the Jehovah Witnesses, for 16 years i was in their religion. In my personal opinion there seems to be no evidence of a creator. However i don't say to people 'there is no god' outright. because in all honesty, its almost impossible to prove a negative.



At one point i took comfort in thinking that my religion gave my my moral beliefs but in retrospect i acted far worse in my youth while i was in the religion, and lied about it because of fear.

The JW religion is a bit of a unique experience in that, while you (referring to the user asking the question) may have had friends who had different beliefs, it was encouraged and almost demanded in the JW religion that you 'shouldnt associate with people with other beliefs'.

Additionally anyone who spoke out against the congregation or who decided that he no longer wanted to be a JW after baptism was shunned, to the point where Witnesses were supposed to barely even look at the person, and never talk to the person unless it was absolutely necessary. (I'm not quite sure if catholic excommunication entails the same thing but if it does thats pretty damn harsh).



In the last few years of my religious beliefs there they attempted to bring more scientific claims to the table, referencing ideas in physics and then taking them out of context to fit their own ideas. One particularly audacious example was a speaker in a Atlantic city convention trying to convince the audience of nearly 2000 that the strong nuclear force, electromagnetic force, weak nuclear force, and gravity were all equal and that god put them in place in that way.



I had done a paper recently explaining how gravity was extraordinarily weak compared to magnetism and the other forces. At that point it became rather obvious they were trying to use subjects the majority of people at the assembly hall wouldn't know about and under the guise of 'science' they would try to convert even more people to their cause.



As for why don't i worship anyway, well its because i believe in the knowledge i've gained. I put my money where my mouth is. If against all odds it turns out i'm wrong, well then thats okay. I managed to gain tons upon tons of knowledge while i was alive, and i was able to experience both sides of the fence and chose the one i feel i know is true.



And as for hating God, well, no. I cant say whether there is a god or isn't because i cannot prove a negative. I personally believe there isn't but other do, and they genuinely believe that, and as long as they're not hurting me, and as long as they understand the difference between science and religion i'm fine with their beliefs, and if it makes them happier more power to them.



As i said before. What i believe in i have evidence for, but if that evidence l has led me to the wrong conclusion then thats fine with me, because in the end i think the knowledge i would've gained along the way by living a life of skepticism would've been worth it.
OO
2009-07-31 05:17:19 UTC
Seriously, learn to use the search function. This has been asked several times, already, tonight.



Get a clue, sweetie. The only proof we need is common sense. What have you got?



BTW "Ya'll" will be in serious shït when Quetzalcoatl gets hold of you.



ADDENDUM



"And yes, there is proof God exists,"



Funny, isn't it, how you cannot produce any?
tank
2009-07-31 05:27:16 UTC
Because this so called God has sparked cults aka religion and has held back society a great deal. I am for equality for all people. Like gay people for instance i don't agree with it and it honestly disgusts me but why should i keep from being happy. But in some states it is illegal to be gay and get married. Check out the people who pass those laws they are jesus freaks. Same with abortion i would keep the baby but if some girl wants to do it then who am i to tell her what to do with her body but some jesus freak wouldn't mind killing the doctor in the name of god. My best friend's cuz was in the military and enjoyed helping out Iraqi people but what does some allah freak do takes him and others along with him in a suicide bombing. Your abrahamic God has sparked hatred in people and has brainwashed them into thinking their better than others. That is why i don't believe in god.
Herodotus
2009-07-31 05:21:22 UTC
I once believed heartily, but it became clear that I was believing in a myth. There is no reason to think any god is real, so I don't. Are you suggesting I worship a god, pay 10% of my income to him, and live by a 4,000 year old moral code, all out of an irrational fear that you have? Thanks really, but no thanks.
I am a cat
2009-07-31 05:19:50 UTC
Do you hate God?

Saying I hate god would be saying that it exists. Write some unbiased questions then I'll answer.
opinionatedlilbugger
2009-07-31 05:14:40 UTC
Did you just squeeze in Pascal's Wager twice?



I was a believer. Then I began thinking. Works every time. I've been atheist for a couple of years now.



Edit: Can you provide this proof and valid sources, please?
2009-07-31 05:17:51 UTC
Why don't you worship unicorns? There is just as much evidence of unicorns as there is of a christian god.
Spiritual Philosopher
2009-07-31 05:17:31 UTC
if a non-believer is a person who has no religious beliefs,

then a non-believer is a true believer in "God"!
2009-07-31 05:13:18 UTC
why don't you believe in Zeus

why not worship Santa for the off chance of getting presents
2009-07-31 05:13:56 UTC
There is no evidence against goblins either. Why not worship them so they don't haunt you?



Yeah, that's how stupid this is.
jsjmlj
2009-07-31 05:13:50 UTC
what if you're wrong


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