Question:
Why are so many evolutionists ignorant to Christian Science?
anonymous
2007-08-15 07:53:03 UTC
They always seem to want to label Creationists as "ignorant", yet they themselves are ignorant to Christian Science. I have never met a person who was exposed to the science behind Creationism, who didn't accept it. Seriously, if you want to learn the major problems with evolution and how it VIOLATES scientific law, then educate yourself on the science behind Creationism.

Even without science, there is logic on the side of Creationism.
29 answers:
thejoyfaction
2007-08-15 08:04:17 UTC
Actually i know a lot about the flaws within the "theory" of evolution. Evolution is just a theory, which means it is not 100% perfect but close. I support Evolution because it is the best theory human beings can come up with to explain origins of species. I find Creationists ignorant because they view their bible as 100% fact and try to teach science from it.



Whats more ignorant, Saying your idea is infallible and never moving forward to find out what when where why and how. Or saying your theory isn't perfect and then try to answer the what when where why and hows.
Pirate AM™
2007-08-15 08:06:16 UTC
I have yet to see a creditable "Christian Science" website, no wait, there was a very good Biblical Archeology site that had an analysis of the exodus and did a good job of objectively looking at the facts. It admitted, reluctantly of course, that there was at best very little evidence for the exodus occurring.



Most "Christian Science" website and books use a High School understanding of the Laws of thermodynamics and other subjects i.e. correct for limited situations but not the full breadth of the law, theory or concept.



Please post your sources, sites, etc and I'll be happy to read them.



Edit: The first article I read "Evidence for a Young World" is precisely what I'm talking about, at least he didn't include the infamous Niagara Falls fallacy, although he did talk about several items that were nearly as bad. The parts about the level of mud on the ocean floor and it's salinity completely disregard the changes over the earths surfaces over the last 400 million years or so. His assertions about comet size are laughable at best and based on some unrealistic assumptions.



It would be interesting to submit his paper to an scientific journal for review, I doubt that it would last for 10 minutes.



2nd Edit:

Just read "Stratigraphic Evidence of the Flood" intersetingly it makes the same mistakes and waves it's hands at things like the Ice Ages, plate movements, differences in strata (amount, type, fossils, age, etc) of areas that he is using for the proof of the flood. Interestingly he doesn't mention that there simply is not enough, nor has there been, hydrogen to make water to flood the world globally.



I would continue, but your "ha ha" comment indicates that you are not serious and probably would not take the time to understand the real science behind the world.
Bryan A
2007-08-15 08:13:27 UTC
Trip, I'd be glad to consider the "logic" or the "science" of Creationism and argue it on its own terms. The problem is nearly all Creationists refuse to do it.



They would rather attack well-defended theories in biology, astronomy, geology and chemistry around the edges with either old information that's been shown false, or disregard substantial evidence to the contrary of their position. Then, they use that as "proof" that creationism is the only real explanation, to the point of making real scientists sound like "conspiracy theorists" who never believed in God and are trying to rule the world.



That "proves" nothing. Science must be done according to scientific methods. Theology must be done according to theological "methods". And in the end, they can only answer their OWN questions, not each others.
Dreamstuff Entity
2007-08-15 08:05:19 UTC
There is no science behind creationism - it's fantasy.



You're an american, aren't you?



You've never met a person who was exposed to the science behind Creationism, who didn't accept it?



Try this: pretty much the entire scientific community.



Please, pick up an *actual* science book. You're embarrassing not only christians, but your country as well.
anonymous
2007-08-15 08:04:32 UTC
This is definately an instance of the kettle calling the pot black. Christian "Science" continues to ignore science such as vestigial organs in EVOLVED species, carbon dating, etc which proves evolution. They continue to rely on some supreme maker, which is their weakpoint, because this supreme maker's existence cannot be proved. One of their motives, which makes me laugh, is a new one of calling evolutionists "extremists," saying that they are the ones who are shoving it down everyone's throats. That's a lie my friend. It's been the other way around until VERY recently, and people are just started to wake up to the fact that relying on religion in science is a logical fallacy. I'm sorry, but mostly everything about evolution is in agreement with scientific law, and everything about creationism is not.
anonymous
2007-08-15 08:06:01 UTC
What rubbish you speak, child. There is no Science behind creationism! Creationists ignore scientifically tested evidence in favour of half-baked twaddle! If you even remotely believe in this drivel you can know nothing of Science or logic! It worries me to think that people like you have the vote, maybe even have access to guns. You're daft as a brush!
anonymous
2007-08-15 08:15:42 UTC
Your statements are the biggest load of deluded nonsense. I have read all the foregoing answers and have nothing to add save to say that it has all been outlined for you but I suspect that you would rather believe in an invisible and silent wizard who resides everywhere at the same time yet does nothing at all to protect mankind from the death and destruction brought about by religious extremists. Nothing.

It really all speaks for itself. Reality is actually not as grisly at it may sound but it is very liberating. Do try it?

Christian Science? Childish in the extreme. Laughable at best.
tehabwa
2007-08-15 12:30:48 UTC
Because I've never had any reason to believe that it wouldn't be a huge waste of my time to learn what creationists or IDers say.



I've spent a bit of time, as I did just now at the link you gave, reading and listening to creationists and IDer.



What I have seen is a gross misunderstanding of actual science.



For instance, it's simply not true that real scientists (the non-creationist types) cannot explain fossil fuels -- as I just read in a piece on the site you linked to.



Whenever I look into creation science, I either see such absurdities (why waste my time reading someone so completely clueless?), or misunderstandings of what evolution actually says, or a general atmosphere of assuming "god did it" that is at its base anti-scientific.



Although difficult to grasp (accurately), evolution makes sense, when one applies oneself to understanding it.



I see no reason to abandon it in favor of nonsense.



That's why I don't spend a lot of time trying to learn what they say; life's too short.



I'd rather spend my time learning real science.



Real science is thrilling and endlessly fascinating, not to mention mind-bogglingly useful.



If I'm going to read fiction, I'll read Harry Potter, or other fiction that's more entertaining than "Christian Science."



When I'm in the mood to read science, I read the real stuff, not fantasy.
RuG™
2007-08-15 08:06:20 UTC
religion and science are polar opposites, you can not explain religion in terms of science effectively and neither can you explain science in terms of religion. and, umm, there is no science behind creationism, 99% of the science community laugh at it as if it were just a funny joke, the other one percent, don't care to approve or disapprove mindless babble. show me something, anything that makes me wonder and i might think differently, then again, a million times this has been asked and there has been nothing brought to the table.
?
2016-10-10 10:50:37 UTC
I even have yet to verify a creditable "Christian technology" internet site, no wait, there grow to be an extremely good Biblical Archeology internet site that had an prognosis of the exodus and did a good activity of objectively staring on the information. It admitted, reluctantly of direction, that there grow to be at maximum suitable little or no information for the exodus happening. maximum "Christian technology" internet site and books use a intense college information of the regulations of thermodynamics and different matters i.e. the main suitable option for constrained situations yet no longer the completed breadth of the regulation, thought or thought. Please post your materials, sites, etc and that i would be chuffed to study them. Edit: the 1st article I study "information for a youthful worldwide" is exactly what i'm speaking approximately, a minimum of he did no longer comprise the infamous Niagara Falls fallacy, in spite of the actuality that he did communicate approximately numerous products that have been almost as undesirable. The aspects with reference to the point of dirt on the sea floor and that is salinity thoroughly dismiss the variations over the earths surfaces over the final 4 hundred million years or so. His assertions approximately comet length are laughable at maximum suitable and in accordance with some unrealistic assumptions. it may be exciting to place up his paper to an scientific mag for evaluate, I doubt that it may final for 10 minutes. 2d Edit: in simple terms study "Stratigraphic information of the Flood" intersetingly it makes the comparable errors and waves that is palms at issues like the Ice a while, plate strikes, variations in strata (quantity, style, fossils, age, etc) of aspects that he's employing for the evidence of the flood. curiously he would not point out that there in simple terms isn't adequate, nor has there been, hydrogen to make water to flood the worldwide globally. i could proceed, yet your "ha ha" remark shows which you at the instant are not intense and probable does no longer make an effort to understand the genuine technology in the back of the worldwide.
anonymous
2007-08-15 08:06:18 UTC
What two words can not be together?

Christian and Science.

There is NO science in the christian creation claim. The ONLY people who accept it are Christians, and they believe a donkey spoke, Mary was a virgin, Hercules was renamed Jesus, and the Apostles wrote the NT.
novangelis
2007-08-15 08:03:39 UTC
I can dispel any lie in "Christian" "Science". Most I have the knowledge already at hand. I don't have every last mined quote answered, but I can take those as well.
anonymous
2007-08-15 07:58:48 UTC
Because Christian Science is an oxymoron. That's like saying freezing hot. It just doesn't work.



Oh, and I've heard of a lot of people who were exposed to it and don't believe it. Myself for instance. And the whole of the scientific community. And all rational Americans.



Just sayin'.
Keyring
2007-08-15 08:03:11 UTC
If that d**khead who was trying to argue that the banana was the atheist's nightmare is any major spokeperson for your brand of science, I can see why no-one cares.
anonymous
2007-08-15 08:02:13 UTC
There is absolutely no evidence outside of the bible that supports creationism.



Remember that the church also tried to squash galileo, columbus and newton.



Please explain the fossil record using creationism.
anonymous
2007-08-15 08:33:42 UTC
Lets put this in perspective...



I have a pastor friend who says "Christian science is like grapenuts. Even eaten grapenuts... no grapes, no nuts"
anonymous
2007-08-15 08:10:42 UTC
So ...... where is the proof? If Creationist science is as in the website you "recommended", then it is at the hypothesis stage. No proof.
anonymous
2007-08-15 07:58:44 UTC
Logic? Yeah, right.



Thanks for the laugh. Even if you can make anyone agree that there was a creator, you cannot prove that it's your idea of one. FSM is as valid as any other...



Edit: The person who resorts to threats is the one out of valid arguments. You loose. Have a nice day.
anonymous
2007-08-15 08:03:13 UTC
Oh knock off the idiotic crap. Most Atheists used to be Christian and are quite aware of what the bible says. Use your brain, not your bible.
(-_-)
2007-08-15 08:04:21 UTC
I dunno. I really understand evolution, and it makes perfect sense.



What can not exist does not exist. What can not exist will not exist. What exists, but can not in the future will not exist, or will change. What cannot exist is determined by the environment (i.e. nothing known could live on Pluto, and nothing does)



Uncountable numbers of changes happen, and here we are...
anonymous
2007-08-15 07:59:20 UTC
Please, email me (or better yet, post here) the "science" behind creationism.



There's a reason we don't teach it in public schools, and that is because it is as far from science as you could possibly get.
The Dog Abides
2007-08-15 07:59:50 UTC
Are you aware of Budhist science, Muslim Science, and Scientology science?



No?



Then you are not allowed to call yourself informed either I guess.
Reported for insulting my belief
2007-08-15 07:59:00 UTC
Isn't Christian Science an oxymoron???
?
2007-08-15 07:59:36 UTC
They are not ignorant, they are informed. They have made a logical decision based on fact.
anonymous
2007-08-15 08:08:26 UTC
Thats Funny. I almost thought you were being serious.
anonymous
2007-08-15 07:59:00 UTC
I have to assume you are joking.



Show me your "science" and I will show you how it is fabricated, misinterpreted, exaggerated, and the result of fallacious assumptions and conclusions.
civil_seismic_eng
2007-08-15 07:59:25 UTC
let me ask you how up to date are you on evolution?
Bahmo
2007-08-15 08:14:40 UTC
Thanks for the chuckle. I feel better now.
anonymous
2007-08-15 07:59:12 UTC
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