Question:
Christianity, true beleif possible?
Emily
2011-06-10 05:51:15 UTC
Okay, so here is my question.
Is true beleif in true christianity, possible?
I mean, with the book itself
-Things have been taken out, changed, translated, moved, made exceptions for, etc.
-the people, all have their own view on it. Some chrstians ar epro life, some christians are pro choice. Some beleive you should kill for the religion, some say be safe, some think the end is near, some thing condoms are bad, some think they are okay.

So like, seriously.
As someone who beleives in christianity, you could be someone who is pro-life, would kill for the religion, bashes people and htinks the end is near, etc etc, condoms should never be used.

Or you can think that you can use condoms because of secual diseases, be pro choice, never want to kill one of gods creatures, etc etc.

Which is almost opposite.
So christianity ios almost totally diffeent depending on people.
So that said, how can you actually be truley christian? What we are reading as the bible now, may not be even the bible anymore, it may have changed even more before we even read it x.x

Thoughts?
Thirteen answers:
Chalcedonian
2011-06-10 06:23:33 UTC
Yes. However, an informed faith just takes more work than most people are willing to put in these days.



Regarding the transmission and translation of the Bible, you may have been reading too much Bart Ehrman (well, his popular works, anyway), and not enough Daniel Wallace. Balance yourself with both sides of the argument, and I'm sure you'll find the Bible, especially the New Testament, is by far the most verified ancient corpus we have---nothing of consequence is obscure (i.e. you can get a true, consistent, and comprehensive picture of true Christian faith from the New Testament).



Regarding many of the positions you cite, people often hold to them because they've abandoned biblical authority, or they are things Christians have legitimate room to disagree on. Nothing you listed is fundamental to the Christian faith.



The Bible is anti-abortion, and the early Church was unanimous on this point. Christian Pro-abortionists have abandoned the historic position of the church.



The whole Just War discussion is quite convoluted, but I think the Just War doctrine is biblical. I think it's right to, in extreme circumstances, take up arms to protect a Christian society from a religion of war, such as Islam. Not just for religious reasons, but because Sharia law is fundamentally unjust. The Allied forces were also justified in waging war on Hitler. I can understand where Christian pacifism comes from, and it has a long pedigree in the church, but I do think they are wrong. But I'm not going to kick them out of the church for it.



I'm no end-times prophecy pundit. I'm an Orthodox Preterist. There's room for legitimate disagreement on the topic in the church, within the bounds set by the Apostles' Creed (which faithfully represents the fundamentals of biblical eschatology).



For necessary Christian belief, I recommend Romans 10:8-13, 1 Corinthians 15:3-8, and Ephesians 2:1-10. The Nicene Creed also gives a good summary. Note that Jesus calls us to loyalty, which is perhaps the most apt way to interpret the Greek word for "faith" these days. And not a blind loyalty either: There's evidence for Jesus' life, death, and resurrection, and thus evidence of God's faithfulness and righteousness (Romans).
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2011-06-10 06:00:10 UTC
“Then woe to those who write the book with their own hands and then say: ‘This is from God’, to traffic with it for a miserable price. Woe to them for what their hands do write and for the gain they make thereby.” (Quran 2:79)



“And when there came to them a messenger from God, Confirming what was with them, a party of the people of the book threw away the book of God behind their backs as if (it had been something) they did not know.” (Quran 2:101)



“Ye shall not add unto the word which I (God) command you, neither shall ye diminish [ought] from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the Lord your God which I command you.” (Deuteronomy 4:2)



Let us start from the beginning. No Biblical scholar on this earth will claim that the Bible was written by Jesus himself. They all agree that the Bible was written after the departure of Jesus peace be upon him by his followers. Dr. W Graham Scroggie of the Moody Bible Institute, Chicago, a prestigious Christian evangelical mission, says:



“..Yes, the Bible is human, although some out of zeal which is not according to knowledge, have denied this. Those books have passed through the minds of men, are written in the language of men, were penned by the hands of men and bear in their style the characteristics of men….It is Human, Yet Divine,”[1]



Another Christian scholar, Kenneth Cragg, the Anglican Bishop of Jerusalem, says:



“...Not so the New Testament...There is condensation and editing; there is choice reproduction and witness. The Gospels have come through the mind of the church behind the authors.
2011-06-10 06:01:53 UTC
No body follows the bible for everything it says. Most of it is complete nonsense. It's ridiculous how people can be followers of the bible but: reject most of it / pretend its not there like they do, and then interpret the rest absurdly. People don't want to admit that the bible was written literally. LITERALLY. IT MEANS EVERYTHING IT SAYS. Also not only do people not follow everything in the bible because its absurd (many things are impossible to interpret sensibly) but also because its impossible. LITERALLY Impossible. There are LITERALLY hundreds of contradictions in the bible. Proving it is not the work of a perfect god. Either by a stupid one, or by men (true) who we know are often stupid.
Bogdan .
2011-06-10 06:04:56 UTC
Love is the key Emily, keep a warm heart, and help and support those around you. You don't have to bash anyone, respect the others for what they believe or not, be opened to new ideas, don't criticize to much, that's my sistem of belief. Yes they all say different things, but what does your heart say, come on i know that if you look deep inside it, you won't need any of that.

Christian orthodox
Esther
2011-06-10 05:55:36 UTC
Hi Emily,



You are starting out with a wrong supposition. Nothing in the bible has been changed. As language evolves, new translations of the bible are written so that we can understand in more modern language, that is all. So you are mistaken in that, first of all.



I am a Christian who has studied the bible for over a decade, in some depth. I believe it is what it claims to be, given by inspiration of God. So my answer to you is yes, it is possible to believe. But you have to put in the time and effort yourself to study the bible, not just shrug it off or take a cursory look and toss it aside.



Jesus said heaven and earth would pass away but His word would never pass away. If you think about this for a moment, if that is true, wouldn't it be wise to take some time and look into what He has said?
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2011-06-10 05:59:12 UTC
You'd have to not think on your own to take every scripture literally. My dad has seen what he believes to be Jesus talking to him at the end of his bed, AND he had a girl in his bed (giggity) who saw the entity too! So, there's no way it did not happen, and he firmly believes it was Jesus, and yet he still admits that it is impossible to take every scripture literally. I'm only open minded towards Christianity because of my dad, but I still think most of it is nonsensical. Theosophy is the way to go.
2011-06-10 05:56:03 UTC
No. We put our faith in indisputable scientific discoveries all of which totally dispel the teachings of a particular book from the bronze age. As science progresses so shall our understanding of the creation of the Cosmos and life on earth. You lot, along with the flat earth society will remain in ignorance and superstition.
Abdijah
2011-06-10 06:07:58 UTC
Daniel 12:4 indicates that in our time that true knowledge would become abundant. You can know the truth. Please check out some of the information in the links below and see for yourself how simple it really is!
Blind Didymus
2011-06-10 05:56:27 UTC
Peace, the Holy Bible is only part of the tradition of Christianity. The Church wrote & compiled the Holy Bible. Orthodox means that our doctrinal belief is true and our form of worship is right.
2011-06-10 06:00:51 UTC
Yes true. But ALL religion is bad. God is not relgiious.
Ernest S
2011-06-10 05:55:49 UTC
Christ called for all : And he said to them all, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross daily, and follow me.

For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: but whosoever will lose his life for my sake, the same shall save it.



And whosoever doth not bear his cross, and come after me, cannot be my disciple.







That sorts it all out very effectively.
2011-06-10 05:55:30 UTC
I'm a Muslim but no offense, this is why the Quran is forbidden from being translated..

It time for you to know the truth..
Jerry Mouse
2011-06-10 05:54:08 UTC
Christians have faith, which is different to religion. Faith is blind whereas belief uses facts.


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