Question:
Where is the proof that 'Atheists' exist?
2009-08-07 01:50:29 UTC
The only known thing that defines 'atheists' is the so-called belief that God/s do not exist.

The only known means to so-called define an atheist is admission that comes in the form of spoken and written words and that is reflected by actions.

Now since when can people read minds?

The only way one could truly prove the existence of 'atheist' humans is by reading the mind to confirm that indeed there is such thing as people who believe in the non-existence of God/s.

One could take a polygraph test to determine whether or not a so-called atheist is lying, but there is also the possibility that he or she has deluded himself/herself into believing that that have such a belief.

So how do we determine whether or not 'atheists' exist?

It is like trying to prove the existence of Santa Claus. All the time you hear about him and what he does. You can always find several hundred chaps dressed like Santa during the jolly season but you cannot determine for sure which one is for real.

That would bring me to ask how you define Santa?

If one was to see a slay flying through the air in broad daylight, would that conclude the existence of Santa? I think not!

The possibilities are endless!

We simply cannot determine whether or not the 'atheist' exists.
31 answers:
2009-08-07 01:53:42 UTC
Where is the proof you exist?
2009-08-07 01:58:07 UTC
Here!



But if you're going to do this scientifically, you're going to have to use the right terminology.



For example, science can never prove anything. It can only make things more and more likely, by having more and more evidence supporting a certain hypothesis.



So let's formulate the hypothesis:

- Atheists exist.



Now we have to do an experiment:

- Find an atheist here on yahoo answers.



Observations:

- I'm an atheist.



Conclusion:

- Atheists exist.





What you have to do is show an alternative hypothesis which is more likely than this one. This one is supported by evidence, while the hypothesis that there are no atheists is contradicted by the evidence. Therefore it is scientific to assume that atheists exist.







If you do not agree with me, please throw away your computer, don't use the tap, don't use the car or public transportation, refrain from eating or drinking, because all those things are just theories anyway.
Seebob
2009-08-07 01:59:17 UTC
You are complicating a very simple concept.

There are people who believe in god and those who do not.

Those who do not believe in god are the atheists.

Whether there is a god or not has nothing to do with whether an atheist exists.

Whether an atheist is completely wrong about the existence of god, they are still an atheist
2009-08-07 01:57:31 UTC
This question seems to be formed just for the sake of causing an argument, or for you to find some silly silly people saying silly silly things.



I regarded myself as an atheist, then I didn't believe a thing about god, didnt want to hear it, didn't believe anything any religious moron would say. Therefore theres your answer.



But now I am more Agnostic atheist. I still don't believe, will never believe, i guarantee you that, but part of that says.. well... we just dont know yet...



we'll have to wait and see if theres some hairy old man in a cloud watching and listening to billions of people or not.... the latter is probably true
▐▀▀☼▀▀▌ ☼Danielle☼ ▐▄▄☼▄▄▌
2009-08-07 11:10:09 UTC
Your overcomplicating things does not make you look philosophical or clever, it does just the opposite.



It's simple. 'Atheist' is a term for people who don't believe in God. Some people don't believe in God - those people exist. Therefore, 'atheists' exist. Unless someone declares a belief in a God, they are automatically an atheist. The word is just a label, not a seperate being. Which is why you fail majorly.



As for 'deluding' themselves into having that belief - that doesn't work. You cannot 'delude' yourself into not believing that you really, or vice versa. You either believe, or don't. Your beliefs are not seperate from your thought processes, they ARE them.
Therapon
2009-08-07 02:21:46 UTC
I've never seen any hard evidence that any atheists exist. I'm not going to state it categorically, that atheists definately don't exist, because we just can't know but the lack of evidence leads me to believe that they probably don't.



I don't believe in Santa or the tooth-fairy so the possibility of a rationally self-refuting pixie is just as unlikely, in fact the existence of any self-refuting being is highly doutful.



I suppose that makes me a weak a-atheist?
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2016-10-13 13:13:23 UTC
permit's say we purely coined the interest "aunicornists" as you look to have achieved. permit's say we upload that observe to the dictionary. Does that make the existence of unicorns plausible or greater probable? Come on, semantics haven't any touching on certainty. they have a observe for phrenology too, that doesn't make it any much less loopy. What do you call a man or woman who does not have faith in god and does not even renowned the prospect that gods exist? considering the fact that - on your view - there's no observe for one in each of those man or woman does that make it impossible for one in each of those man or woman to exist? you're certainly Orwellian on your use of semantics. you're making "concept crime" impossible by making use of making it impossible to particular.
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2009-08-07 01:55:09 UTC
What you're suggesting is that you are simply disbelieving of anyone's claim to not believe in god/s. That doesn't mean atheists don't exist, just that you will never meet a person you consider atheist.



If you won't take one person's word for what their own personal beliefs are, then what's the point of a discussion about anything to do with belief?
♠ Logic316 ♠
2009-08-07 02:34:26 UTC
Wrongo.

An atheist is simply somebody who lacks a belief in any gods. So unless somebody professes a belief in a god, then by default he's considered an atheist.
Bob B
2009-08-07 01:56:38 UTC
You honestly think there's some kind of conspiracy going on to trick you? As in, you seriously believe that there is nobody out there who doesn't believe God exists? Please.



This logic could essentially be applied to anyone. You can't confirm that Germany exists- perhaps it's all a conspiracy to trick you. Do you think it is likely?
?
2009-08-07 02:02:03 UTC
If someone states that he/she is an atheist, then they are. It's simple logic, some one can simply prove that they are an atheist by saying that they are one, unless you consider everyone who sais it to be a liar.
2009-08-07 01:57:14 UTC
Eh, it falls apart at the individual and the small collective. I mean, the Atheist knows the Atheist exists. So -it is known- and can be known.
Andrew the second
2009-08-07 01:54:48 UTC
According to Buddhism no one exists. Only a process passes. So atheists cannot exist.
Poppy Seed
2009-08-07 01:54:16 UTC
Can you categorically prove that anything other than yourself exists? No. But for all practical purposes, we have to assume that we are capable of experiencing and perceiving reality, and on that basis, I think it's fair to assume that atheists do indeed exist.



In any case, believe it or not, but I am one--hello--!



:)
Dixie Normus
2009-08-07 02:01:11 UTC
I can see myself in the mirror which is plenty of proof to me that I exist and I am an atheist. What is your proof that Christians exist?



Dumbest argument ever.
Wyatt the 3rd
2009-08-07 01:55:04 UTC
I'm an atheist and I exist. Therefore, atheists exist.





See how much fun common sense is when you put down your bible?
Nate
2009-08-07 01:54:40 UTC
And this same argument could poorly be used to argue theists don't exist too. What was the point of this?
The Incorrect Atheist
2009-08-07 01:54:47 UTC
You know, by that same logic, I could just as well say "how do we know theists exist?"



A cookie to whoever points out the logical fallacy.
2009-08-07 01:56:05 UTC
By the same logic, you can't prove believers exist either.



Nor can you prove agnostics exist.
Neutrino
2009-08-07 02:25:15 UTC
Oh wow, do you honestly think you're being clever or even logical ? How sad.
Innocent Victim
2009-08-07 04:28:06 UTC
Awww, it's so CUTE when one of you tries to get all philosophical!





And fails utterly.
2009-08-07 02:11:09 UTC
well yeah but with this theory you cant really prove any religion. or anything else for that matter.
2009-08-07 01:55:34 UTC
You either believe in God or you don't, leave it at that.
Soul6ess
2009-08-07 02:00:13 UTC
if people can create a label (christian) around a dead guy than why cant atheists have their telescopes?
Aonghas Shrugged
2009-08-07 02:00:18 UTC
You asked WHERE is the proof.





Answer: R&S Forum
Jeremy
2009-08-07 01:56:11 UTC
your mom will testify for me...she's always yelling praise Jeremy
Lucas
2009-08-07 01:56:27 UTC
this is the stupidest thing i'v ever seen
2009-08-07 02:02:26 UTC
in their typing..



santa isnt breathing.
Jelly Beans
2009-08-09 07:19:57 UTC
if this is your attempt at justifying "God" then it has failed
2009-08-07 01:54:46 UTC
does your friend say he is an athiest...if he does he is in fact an athiest
Sarah B.
2009-08-07 01:56:54 UTC
:)


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