Question:
About the proof for the existence of God, would any of these be enough?
Juice002
2011-06-20 18:27:55 UTC
Is the fact something you believe to be God talks to you proof of the existence of God?

Can someone else who does not believe in a God figure but also hears a voice speaking in their head or mind be as justified calling it their conscience rather than a God?

Many wonderful things has happened in my life, I may give the credit to a God?

Someone else has also had many wonderful things happen, yet they don't give any credits to a God figure, how is your conviction greater than theirs?

Some even give credits to a different God even greater things than that which convinces you, how are you more right than they?

In either of the three cases, how do you draw a line that your evidence is proof and theirs isn't when all three has the same or equal evidence?

Wouldn't you agree that you need more than just that if you intend to convince the other?
Eighteen answers:
2011-06-20 18:30:47 UTC
If not,perhaps these

The Case for the Creator

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=688111496234161611#



The Privileged Planet

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6308516608498324470#
Raven Slight
2011-06-21 02:01:38 UTC
[[Is the fact something you believe to be God talks to you proof of the existence of God?]] No. People can induce mentally whatever entity they wish. I have conversed with "Jesus" twice, each time with no conscious self-intervention, and got two contradictory answers to the same question. "2 + 2 = 4" and "2 + 2 = 5".



[[Can someone else who does not believe in a God figure but also hears a voice speaking in their head or mind be as justified calling it their conscience rather than a God?]] Yes. If not, then that gives tens of hundreds of gods the same evidence. In myself had "a voice speaking" in my head/mind for Thor, Zeus, Odin, Queztalcoatl, Mars, Ra, Isis, Buddha, Jack Sparrow, Allah, Yahweh, Jesus, Satan, Baalzebub, and even Son Goku.



[[Many wonderful things has happened in my life, I may give the credit to a God?]] Which god? Additionally, there is the fact that you must then attribute every horrible thing in your life to God if you attribute every wonderful thing to him.



[[Someone else has also had many wonderful things happen, yet they don't give any credits to a God figure, how is your conviction greater than theirs?]] The one who does not believe generally understands the above. They also may pinpoint the reasons behind the "wonderful things". If I get a strong financial backing for research later in life because I cheered up the head of a large R&D company while volunteering at the hospital I volunteer at, where was God? Making the person sick? That is evil. Making me volunteer? I began volunteering because I knew my school would need a specific volunteer-hour quota. I continue because it is fun.



[[Some even give credits to a different God even greater things than that which convinces you, how are you more right than they?]] One person is not valid statistically. Even more-so, if I know people who have had even one of each of the things happen, what makes the 'super great' guy more right than my friends? And then there's that the person could be exaggerating or failed to include some significant part of their events.



[[In either of the three cases, how do you draw a line that your evidence is proof and theirs isn't when all three has the same or equal evidence?]] Atheism as the lack of belief does not share a burden of proof. It is to the theist to present proof. Even more, the results that the theist considers 'proof' must be testable, verifiable, repeatably obtained, and unbiased,



However taking it a step farther, I am an anti-theist. I support this predominately with the parallel to leprechauns: you do not assume that leprechauns exist until it is proven that they don't. You assume that they do not exist until it is proven that they do. God, being a greater entity than leprechauns, demands greater evidence.
2011-06-21 01:48:54 UTC
Torpex is right. You can't use your own perceptions to prove something to somebody else, but they'll be enough to prove it to you.

Rather, you need something common: Logic, for example. There's numerous "Proofs" for the existence of God, but the most convincing are ones that everybody can relate to. Aquinas's proofs for example, while relatively rudimentary, are still often used as evidence for the existence of God -- for example, the idea of an "uncaused cause."



I would read Mere Christianity if I were you -- C.S Lewis presents some well thought out arguments for the existence of a deity, stemming from the idea of a "real right and wrong." And, of course, that's something that he provides substantial evidence for at the beginning of the book.
The Shihan
2011-06-22 03:57:19 UTC
I have had things happen to me spiritually which went be on a voice in my head that may have been me. I was heeled of Carpal tunnel. My doctor has that one on his records. I was healed of a 104 temp. My wife was complaining because out towns water was froze the kids were running wild and I was sick. I said; Lord I want to be healed right now. I told my wife I was healed, she said you couldn't have been healed that quick. I just took your temp. five minutes ago. . She brought the thermometric in put it under my tongue. I was healed. I also was taken up to a place with spiritual beings that were all light. I can not tell you the rest of that one. Proof to me. If a person does not want to believe they won't.
michinoku2001
2011-06-21 01:45:52 UTC
You are talking philosophy, which is something our age is uncomfortable with. Here's a fact, for all our science and technology we don't know the answers to these questions better than Plato or Aquinas did.
2011-06-22 08:43:25 UTC
You walk by senses and flesh not walk by FAITH. Spiritual things can't understand by our senses and no senses can show the proof of God,existing of God and spiritual things but faith which is pleases by God Hebrews 12:6

I believe God and follow his commands for my salvation.



Can you prove me by your faith that 'you are existing' right now.how , tell me?
Walter
2011-06-21 01:31:02 UTC
Agreed.
sympleesymple
2011-06-21 01:45:29 UTC
the amount of evidence required to convince is dependent upon the individual,

some require minimal while others require abundant evidence.

you must consider evidence where it may be found.
2011-06-21 01:34:31 UTC
Maybe the atheist cannot find God for the same reason a thief cannot find a policeman.
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2011-06-21 01:31:52 UTC
Here's something scientifical. The Big Bang, what created the objects that exploded? Where did they come from? Surely something had made them or it right?
G'n'R 4EVER
2011-06-21 01:30:03 UTC
You can credit yourself. You do these things because you want to, and that's good.
Eclectic Heretic
2011-06-21 01:36:32 UTC
How about "none of the above"?

Blessings on your Journey!
torpex2002
2011-06-21 01:30:34 UTC
enough to prove it to you?



absolutely.



enough to prove it to a rational or skeptical person?



unlikely.
Cindi
2011-06-21 01:29:51 UTC
existence of the paradoxical physical universe.
2011-06-21 01:30:02 UTC
the proof, not evidence, is creation of the universe, earth, life, and conscience



it is impossible for these to create themselves
?
2011-06-21 01:30:04 UTC
No. They will never accept any amount of proof because they don't want truth.

They just don't want God to be real
Gareth H
2011-06-21 01:30:29 UTC
No, they wont do.
2011-06-21 01:30:16 UTC
ok


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