Question:
Has the restoration of Israel after the Holocaust complete Jermiah 30 prophecy?
Trilobiteme
2012-09-04 19:59:49 UTC
Jeremiah 30 vs 3 The days are coming when i will bring my people Israel and Judah back from captivity and restore them to the land I gave there forefathers to possess says the Lord 4) These are the words the Lord spoke concerning Israel and Judah 5) This is what the Lord says Cries of fear are heard not peace Ask and see can a man bear children? Then why does every strong man with his on his stomach like a women in labor , every face turn deathly pale?How afwful that day will be None will be like it It will be a time of trouble for Jacob but he will be saved out of it
Sounds like the Holocaust , Israel became a nation in 1948 after the Holocaust
Eleven answers:
Tj
2012-09-04 20:06:45 UTC
yes it is the case
john m
2012-09-04 20:23:46 UTC
No.

That God of the OT is a liar and a murderer.

The state of Israel is a Zionist state that has similar policies to the Nazis.

On the memory and suffering of 6 million Jews the world gave them this country based no more on biblical evidence which has been refuted.

What about the cries of fear when Palestinian children are suffering?

Are they not God's children!

We live in the 21st century and to be quite frank all literal believers in this nonsense from a book written by men need to go and soak their heads in iced water till they waken up.

Israel should have been a country were persecuted people could go to like the USA was.

Now it is nothing more then a country with a dubious historical reason to exist except because the world stood back and due to the inherent antisemitism in Christianity allowed the murder of 6 million European Jews and this collective guilt and a clever usage of the bible brought this about.

To criticize Israel is not antisemitic.

To reject biblical prophecies is neither that either.

Christianity set out to destroy Judaism.

Ask any devout Jew what they feel about the copy and paste mess Christianity is were they attach the OT onto 4 gospels and then some more words from other people to make their religion the only true one.

Israel along with the USA will enter into a catastrophe sooner then later and no God of the OT will stop it.

Stop dwelling on the past to understand the present.

The world doesn't work like that.
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2012-09-04 20:01:22 UTC
No, it's about the Maccabees kicking the Greeks out of Israel. Antiochus Epiphanes persecuted the Jews and, among other things, sacrificed a pig to Zeus in the Holy of Holies.



For more, read I Maccabees.



Edit:

The current state of Israel is not "Israel and Judea" either, you're nitpicking.
#AllforWhatsRight
2012-09-04 20:21:02 UTC
The world was also anxiously watching the Middle East in May of 1948. At that time, 62 years ago, the British mandate to occupy what was then called Palestine was ending, and war was imminent. The year before, the United Nations had authorized the creation of an independent Jewish State in a portion of the occupied territories. The surrounding Arab nations had vowed to prevent this at any cost. “The partition line shall be nothing but a line of fire and blood,” warned the Arab League.

It was Friday afternoon, May 14, 1948, at 4:00 p.m. The final hours of the British mandate were ticking away. In the Tel Aviv Museum, a small crowd of 350 onlookers were present by secret invitation for an eagerly anticipated announcement—the formal declaration of statehood for the modern-day nation of Israel. Security was tight, lest the numerous enemies of the fledgling State attack the proceedings. Some Evangelical Protestants believe that the modern State of Israel thus fulfilled a Bible prophecy. Did Isaiah 66:8 predict the establishment of the modern State of Israel? Was May 14, 1948, the “greatest moment in prophetic history of the twentieth century”? If the modern State of Israel is still God’s chosen nation, and if he is using it to fulfill Bible prophecies, this would certainly be of interest to Bible students everywhere.



Isaiah’s prophecy states: “Who has heard of a thing like this? Who has seen things like these? Will a land be brought forth with labor pains in one day? Or will a nation be born at one time? For Zion has come into labor pains as well as given birth to her sons.” (Isaiah 66:8) The verse is clearly foretelling the sudden birth of an entire nation, as if in a single day. But who would cause this birth? The next verse gives a clue: “‘As for me, shall I cause the breaking through and not cause the giving birth?’ says Jehovah. ‘Or am I causing a giving birth and do I actually cause a shutting up?’ your God has said.” Jehovah God makes it clear that the dramatic birth of the nation would be his doing. Modern Israel is governed as a secular democracy that officially makes no claim to rely on the God of the Bible. Did the Israelis in 1948 recognize Jehovah God as the one responsible for their declaration of statehood? They did not. Neither the name of God nor even the word “God” was mentioned anywhere in the original text of the proclamation. Observant Jews wanted a reference to ‘the God of Israel.’ Secularists balked. Compromising, Ben-Gurion decided that the word ‘Rock’ would appear instead of ‘God.’” Is it reasonable to expect that the God of the Bible would perform the greatest prophetic miracle in the 20th century in behalf of a people who refuse to give him credit?



In the year 33 C.E., the fleshly nation of Israel lost its claim to be God’s chosen nation when it rejected Jehovah’s Son, the Messiah. The Messiah himself put it this way: “Jerusalem, Jerusalem, the killer of the prophets and stoner of those sent forth to her . . . Look! Your house is abandoned to you.” (Matthew 23:37, 38) Jesus’ statement came true when in 70 C.E., Roman legions destroyed Jerusalem along with its temple and priesthood. But what was to become of God’s purpose to have a “special property out of all other peoples, . . . a kingdom of priests and a holy nation”?—Exodus 19:5, 6.

The apostle Peter, himself a fleshly Jew, answered that question in a letter written to Christians—both Gentile and Jewish. He wrote: “You are ‘a chosen race, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people for special possession,’ . . . for you were once not a people, but are now God’s people; you were those who had not been shown mercy, but are now those who have been shown mercy.”—1 Peter 2:7-10.

Christians who were selected by holy spirit thus belong to a spiritual nation, their membership not being determined by birth or geographic location. The apostle Paul described the matter this way: “Neither is circumcision anything nor is uncircumcision, but a new creation is something. And all those who will walk orderly by this rule of conduct, upon them be peace and mercy, even upon the Israel of God.”—Galatians 6:15, 16.
2012-09-04 20:04:12 UTC
The city of Tyre, Lebanon has been rebuilt, and the bible said it would never be rebuilt.



The bible makes a boatload of vague and obvious predictions. With the level of vagueness and obviousness, some are bound to be wrong, and most are bound to be right because of how easily they can be interpreted to fit the facts.



Sort of like a horoscope...it's written in ways that anyone could see themselves in, at least partly.
Doya K
2012-09-04 20:05:45 UTC
The Jews returning to Israel was a self fulfilling prophecy. We sent to Jews there to fulfill this prophecy... So it's really not amazing...
humanistheart
2012-09-04 20:03:22 UTC
No, that describes the fall of the kingdoms of Israel, during the fall of the north and south kingdoms, not the German holocaust.
h nitrogen
2012-09-04 20:01:08 UTC
Nope. Israel refers to Gods people who follow the lamb. Spiritual Israel has not been restored
2012-09-04 20:01:51 UTC
Some people believe that is the case.

I would like to think it is true, but I am skeptical.
Janina
2012-09-04 20:18:33 UTC
I am sorry I do not exactly know the right answer to your question

but I want you to try Eli Soriano



http://mcgi.org/en/reach_us/
interested1208
2012-09-04 20:16:14 UTC
Nope...



But nice try...



IMHO


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