Question:
Argument From Design?
anonymous
2013-08-16 10:39:28 UTC
I admit that used to hate the Argument From Design, but people here use it a lot, and I've begun to enjoy its use of weak analogies to determine the truth. So, I'm trying learn to use it.

The Argument From Design:

1) Houses have order and function.
2) The universe has order and function.
3) Houses have creators, therefore, the universe must have a creator.

My Argument:
1) God is an old man with white hair and a long beard.
2) Darwin was old man with white hair and a long beard.
3) Therefore, Darwin was God.

Do you like my analogy?
Seven answers:
The Lightning Strikes
2013-08-20 09:27:14 UTC
Nope, the evidences for Evolution is obtained through an / a philosophical & Ideological bias, One just has to see the answers posted here by Atheist to see that with their lying Evolution Web sites and pseudo-Science they employ.



What is tragic is that many Christians (and I use that word Christian loosely) are succumbing to worldly pressure to adjust their theology to “Make it Fit”

For it is Written “ 2 Timothy 4:3-4 (NKJV) For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine, but according to their own desires, [because] they have itching ears, they will heap up for themselves teachers; and they will turn [their] ears away from the truth, and be turned aside to fables.



These Christians do not know just HOW That effects Their theology

How a Christian views Creation has a profound effect on that.

How do beliefs about creation impact the rest of theology?

http://www.gotquestions.org/creation-theology-beliefs.html



Why is Biblical Creationism so important?

http://www.gotquestions.org/biblical-creationism.html



The Gospel—Evidence for Creation

http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles/cm/v11/n1/gospel



Many secular and atheist groups mock Creation Science and Christians for not being scientific. However, some of the most influential scientists past and present have been and are creationists



Some modern scientists who have accepted the biblical account of creation

http://www.answersingenesis.org/home/area/bios/



A Good read that explains the Bias against Creation is here



The Battle for the Beginning

By: John MacArthur

http://www.christianbook.com/the-battle-for-the-beginning/john-macarthur/9780785271598/pd/71597?event=AFF&p=1011693&



The Case For The Creator

The Case for the Creator is a deep look into the evidence for Intelligent design. "My road to atheism was paved by science... but, ironically, so was my later journey to God." -Lee Strobel

http://www.godtube.com/watch/?v=FJ0J0JNU



http://www.answersingenesis.org/



http://www.icr.org/



Darwin's Deadly Legacy (1 of 7)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mxXICZ9mXo
Arnie
2013-08-16 19:26:30 UTC
Nope i disagree



The mystery's of faith an GOD are beyond human comprehension.

Faith concerns questions which cannot be settled by evidence.

How can the universe create itself out of nothingness? Given the fact that the universe began to exist, it must have had a “cause” that originated it.Doesn't it make more sense to assume the existence of a Creation.

The question is tricky because it sneaks in the false assumption that God came from somewhere and then asks where that might be. The answer is that the question does not even make sense. It is like asking, “What does blue smell like?” Blue is not in the category of things that have a smell, so the question itself is flawed. In the same way, God is not in the category of things that are created or caused. God is uncaused and uncreated—He simply exists.

We know that from nothing, nothing comes. So, if there were ever a time when there was absolutely nothing in existence, then nothing would have ever come into existence. But things do exist. Therefore, since there could never have been absolutely nothing, something had to have always been in existence. That ever-existing thing is what we call God. God is the uncaused Being that caused everything else to come into existence. God is the uncreated Creator who created the universe and everything in it.





You can't see the wind, but you know it is there because you can see what the wind is doing. You can know that the wind is there because you can feel it.God is like the wind, you can't see him.





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?
2013-08-19 19:35:18 UTC
I think that the chief fallacy is that that both religious people and atheist talk about religion or lack of it as something that is subject to logical proof.



Belief or disbelief is a choice. You are free to believe either. Free will, as Christians call it.



Neither is subject to proof.



There is the things about playing the odds though.



If you believe and die and are wrong, much lost. If you don't believe and die and are wrong, nothings really lost.



Of course my religion is a very positive one that provides me with a life style that causes me to treat myself and others better. I am not into suffering and I know that unlimited indulgence is not going to be good for me.



It may be that you have been hurt by those who thought they were religious but really did not get it.



Love your neighbor as well as yourself.



Believe what gives you peace.



When I was very young and in graduate school, I really though I could know everything or at least a great deal. I was very arrogant and really not helping myself or others.



Then life happened. I discovered that in spite of being very intelligent and very strong, I had some real limits.



Can I prove or disprove there is a God?



No. No one can. But I learned for certain that I am not God! Just a limited human like we all are. Thank God that I don't have to be him!



I do choose to believe because to refuse to do so would make me a less peaceful and less happy person.



I am at peace. Life is good!



Think about it. What is the reasonable choice that works best for you? Your choice.



If this answer evokes anger in you, ask yourself if that anger is really working for you.
Scott B
2013-08-16 17:42:38 UTC
The more appropriate rationale from your ridiculous post would state the first argument this way:

1) Houses have order and function

2) The universe has order and function.

3) Therefore a house is the universe.



Sort of breaks it down for you? Don't be so obtuse.
Rick
2013-08-16 17:44:21 UTC
It's a good analogy only because both arguments are equally illogical. The argument for intelligent design is a good one but the argument for a naturally occurring Universe and the evolution of life is much better. The former has no evidence and is based simply on a feeling. The latter also isn't 100% proven but there is tons of evidence to support it. I'll take lots of evidence over no evidence any day.
JORGE N
2013-08-16 17:46:08 UTC
I am an old man with white hair and a long beard. Well I was. So before I had a haircut I was God. I knew it. How glad I am that someone finally figured it out. Shouldn't have cut my hair.
ANDRE L
2013-08-16 17:41:33 UTC
It works just as well as the religious one.



The argument from design is easily refuted:



-If the Universe needs a creator, why doesn't god?

If god doesn't need a creator, why does the Universe ?-


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