Question:
Have all the anointed 144,000 been found yet?
2008-01-19 08:35:18 UTC
Revelation 14:1-5

1 And I saw, and, look! the Lamb standing upon the Mount Zion, and with him a hundred and forty-four thousand having his name and the name of his Father written on their foreheads. 2 And I heard a sound out of heaven as the sound of many waters and as the sound of loud thunder; and the sound that I heard was as of singers who accompany themselves on the harp playing on their harps. 3 And they are singing as if a new song before the throne and before the four living creatures and the elders; and no one was able to master that song but the hundred and forty-four thousand, who have been bought from the earth. 4 These are the ones that did not defile themselves with women; in fact, they are virgins. These are the ones that keep following the Lamb no matter where he goes. These were bought from among mankind as firstfruits to God and to the Lamb, 5 and no falsehood was found in their mouths; they are without blemish.
Sixteen answers:
nita
2008-01-19 08:44:50 UTC
all of the anointed have been chosen, and there are very few still alive today. these will reign in heaven, over us as kings along with Jesus Christ, after Armageddon.
Lifeline
2008-01-19 11:41:33 UTC
Wow what insight Alex S. Yes these 144,000 have been found and they are being prepared for the duty they have been granted. Where do you come up with these amazing Q's? You are not only asking but at the same time you make other believers seek out the answers to your Q's; pushes every believer to seek God further. Keep up the excellent job
2008-01-19 08:45:48 UTC
Lots of people get caught up on that verse but ignore Revelation 5:11



11Then I looked and heard the voice of many angels, numbering thousands upon thousands, and ten thousand times ten thousand. They encircled the throne and the living creatures and the elders. 12In a loud voice they sang:

"Worthy is the Lamb, who was slain,

to receive power and wealth and wisdom and strength

and honor and glory and praise!"



It is not as if only 144,000 people are going to Heaven. It clearly states that many more people will be going to heaven.
Brother Jonathan
2008-01-19 08:46:42 UTC
This passage has nothing to do with the Jehovah's witnesses because a few verses further, it is stated that these are Jews from each of the 12 tribes (except Dan). Granted, this passage can be, and has been, interpreted in many ways but the futurist view (which I hold to) and the literalist view (mine too) is that this event hasn't happened yet. I feel sorry for those left behind after the Rapture who will see this!
2015-03-28 13:04:49 UTC
Harpazo = Rapture



END-TIME BIBLE PROPHECY



The Messiah Lord Jesus said BIRTH PANGS would signal the time of the end (Matthew 24:8). There are NINE birth pangs, they are all PRE-TRIBULATIONAL and the 1st three already occurred.



The first birth pang was worldwide conflict coupled with famines and earthquakes (Matthew 24:7-8). Worldwide conflict was fulfilled in 1914-1918, major famines happened in 1918-1921 and most of the world’s major earthquakes began to occur since 1900.



The second birth pang was the restoration of a Jewish State (Ezekiel 20:33-38; Ezekiel 22:17-22; Ezekiel 36:22-24; Zephaniah 2:1-2). This was fulfilled in 1948.



The third birth pang was Jewish control of the Old City of Jerusalem (Revelation 11:1-2). For the third Jewish Temple (Tribulation Temple) to be rebuilt, Jerusalem needs to be under Jewish control and this was accomplished in the Six Day War in 1967.



The fourth birth pang will be the Ezekiel 38 war. Russia, allied states of Iran, Ethiopia, Somalia, Germany and Armenia will invade Israel. God will miraculously destroy the invading army by earthquake, civil war among the invading soldiers, pestilence, blood, flood, hailstones, fire and brimstone. This will bring a revival in Israel where many Jews will turn to the Lord, and Israel will spend 7 years and 7 months burying the bodies and burning for fuel the military equipment left behind (Ezekiel 39:9-16).



The 5th birth pang will be the development of a one world government (Daniel 7:23-24).



The 6th birth pang will be the splitting of the one world government into 10 kingdoms and this Ten Kingdom Stage will continue until mid-Tribulation (Daniel 7:24).



The 7th birth pang will be the revelation of the Antichrist (II Thessalonians 2:1-3; Daniel 7:24).



The 8th birth pang will be a period of peace and false security that will be shattered by the Tribulation (1 Thessalonians 5:1-3).



The 9th and final birth pang before the Tribulation is the signing of the 7-year covenant between Israel and the Antichrist. THIS EVENT IS WHAT BEGINS THE (7-year) TRIBULATION - NOT THE RAPTURE!



The Rapture of the Church (1 Thessalonians 4:16-18) is also a pre-tribulational event (Luke 21:34-37; 1 Thessalonians 1:9-10; 1 Thessalonians 5:1-10; Revelation 3:10; Revelation 19:6-8). The fact that the Church is not mentioned in any of the Tribulation Scriptures proves the Rapture is pre-tribulational. All raptured Christians will receive glorified bodies (Romans 8:22-23; 1 Corinthians 15:50-54)) and it can happen at any second.





THE FIRST HALF OF THE TRIBULATION (SUPPORTING VERSES IN REVELATION 6-9 AND 17)



The Ministry of 144,000 sealed Jewish believers will bring many throughout the world to accept Christ.



There will be a powerful Ministry of Two Witnesses who will also be anointed Jewish believers.



A one world religious system (Babylon the Harlot) will rule. Under this one world religious system, many who are saved during the Tribulation will suffer persecution and death.



The Political system of the 10 kings of the one world government will continue.



During the first half of the Tribulation there will also be war, worldwide famine, death (1/4 of the world’s population will die), a huge earthquake, a blackout and a meteor shower. 1/3 of earth’s dry surface will be destroyed, 1/3 sea life and salt water will be destroyed, a fallen angel called Wormwood will make 1/3 of earth’s fresh water bitter, 1/3 of earth’s natural light sources will be destroyed, there will be another blackout and demons in the form of “locust-scorpions” will come up out of the abyss led by Abaddon their king and they will inflict harm and pain for five months upon those who are not sealed by God (unbelievers). Another demonic invasion will occur and the demons involved will be led by four fallen angels who will be released from the Euphrates River and this army will kill 1/3 of the earth’s population.





MID-TRIBULATION (SUPPORTING VERSES IN REVELATION 10-14 AND 17)



The Antichrist will war against the 10 kings, and during the war the Antichrist will be killed.



Satan will be cast out of the atmospheric heavens onto earth and will resurrect the Antichrist.



The Antichrist will kill 3 kings (the kings of Syria, Egypt and Mesopotamia) and the 7 other kings will submit to him.



The Antichrist will kill the Two Witnesses in Jerusalem and the wicked people will celebrate this event. Three and a half days afterwards, God will resurrect the Two Witnesses and take them up to Heaven and the people who celebrated will become terrified. The city of Jerusalem where the murder of the Two Witnesses occurred will then suffer an earthquake which will kill 7,000 people.



The False Prophet will receive from Satan the power to perform great miracles and will deceive many. The False Prophet will command all people to worship the Antichrist and have persons create an image to the Antichrist. The False Prophet will use his satanic powers to give it life and the ability to speak. The False Prophet will cause those who refuse to worship the Antichrist and the image to be killed.



The False Prophet will issue his own counterfeit seal known as the Mark of the Beast and it will be placed on all those who surrender to the Antichrist’s authority and accept him as god. Those who refuse to take this mark will not be able to buy or sell. Those who take this mark will spend eternity in the Lake of Fire.



The Antichrist will break the seven-year covenant he made with Israel, cause the sacrifices to stop, sit in the Jewish Temple, declare to the world that he is really God and set up an idol called the Abomination of Desolation in the Temple (Daniel 9:27; Daniel 12:11; Matthew 24:15-16; 11Thessalonians 2:3-4; Revelation 13:11-15).



Through the Antichrist and the False Prophet, Satan will attempt to destroy the Jews once and for all but he will fail because 1/3 of the Jews will succeed in fleeing into the wilderness. These Jews who escape will accept the Lord Jesus as their Saviour during the Tribulation (Zechariah 13:7-9) and while they are in hiding, God will miraculously provide for them (Zechariah 13:8-9; Isaiah 41:17-20). Divine intervention will also destroy the pursuing army.





THE SECOND HALF OF THE TRIBULATION (SUPPORTING VERSES FOUND IN REVELATION 15, 16, 18, 19, 20)



In the second half of the Tribulation, those with the Mark of the Beast will suffer skin sores, the remainder of sea water and fresh water will be destroyed, the sun will cause terrible burns and the wicked will blaspheme God. There will be yet another blackout and persons will suffer gnawing pains.



Babylon will be the center of world economy and political system but Babylon will be swiftly destroyed by fire and become uninhabitable for man.



The Antichrist will locate the Jews who sought refuge in the wilderness and surround them with his armies to wipe them out. The Lord Jesus will then descend from Heaven with His angels and Saints. He will come with great glory riding upon a horse and will destroy the Antichrist, the False Prophet and all of their armies. After this, a loud voice will cry out “It is done!” followed by the greatest earthquake in the earth’s history and hail weighing 120 pounds will fall.



At the end of the Tribulation, there will be another blackout, the stars will fall from the sky and the heavenly bodies will be shaken (Matthew 24:29), the Antichrist and the False Prophet will be thrown into the eternal Lake of Fire and Satan will be cast into the Abyss and bound for 1,000 years.





THE MILLENNIUM



The Lord Jesus will reign over the entire earth during the Millennium. The Jewish and Gentile believers who survive the Tribulation will go on to populate the Millennium. Believers who died before and during the Tribulation and believers who were raptured will be present on earth during the Millennium and because they will have glorified bodies they will not reproduce. All believers will be given special tasks by the Lord Jesus (Revelation 20:4-6). There will be no wars (Isaiah 2:2-4), animals will return to the Edenic state and become vegetarians (Isaiah 11:6-9), people will not labour in vain but eat what they plant and inhabit what they build, there will be renovations in the heavens and earth and there will be righteous and unrighteous children born during the Millennium (Isaiah 65:17-25).



At the end of the Millennium, Satan will be loosed from the Abyss and will deceive and gather the unrighteous for a war against the righteous. This will be his final attempt to destroy the righteous and when the unrighteous of the Millennium surround the good people, God will send fire down from Heaven which will suddenly and massively annihilate all of the wicked people. Satan will then be cast into the Lake of Fire where he will remain in torment for eternity (Revelation 20:7-10).





THE GREAT WHITE THRONE JUDGMENT



The Great White Throne Judgment will be the next main event. The old heavens and earth will be done away with and all will stand before God’s throne to be judged (Revelation 20:11-12). Those whose names are not found written in the Book of Life will be cast into the Lake of Fire which will be their final and eternal abode (Revelation 20:14-15).





THE ETERNAL ORDER (REVELATION 21 AND 22)



Those whose names are found in the Book of Life will enjoy paradise with God forever. The heavens and earth will be made new and the New Jerusalem will come down upon the earth making the earth like Heaven. All curses from the fall will be removed and the earth will be inhabited by the Triune God (The Father, Son and Holy Spirit), all angels and all of the righteous. The seas, moon, night and sun will be done away with and the glory of God will illuminate the earth. The River of Life will flow from God’s throne, the Tree of Life will bear health-giving fruits and leaves and the name of Jesus will be on the foreheads of all of the righteous.





God’s Plan of Salvation for Us

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZkDk1GZ7do
Lenio
2008-01-19 12:02:57 UTC
The true answer to this question is only known by Jehovah and his son, Jesus. Jesus knows the ones chosen to rule with him as King in heaven.
Bishop
2008-01-19 08:54:58 UTC
The book of Revelation is very symbolic. It has a lot to do with the culture at the time. You could say it is a very intense look at mythology of the region and time. Not that the book is mythical but John is addressing people that the Roman authorities beginning to enforce the cult of emperor worship. Of course Christians were facing increasing hostility. Some churches were advocating a policy of compromise and had to be corrected before its subtle influence could undermine believers' determination to stand fast.



John is encourage the faithful to resist staunchly the demands that they worship the emperor. He informs his readers that the final showdown between God and Satan is imminent. Satan will increase his persecution of believers, but they must stand fast, even to death. They are sealed against any spiritual harm and will soon be vindicated when Christ return, when the wicked are forever destroyed, and when God's people enter an eternity of glory and blessedness.



Think of Revelation is a letter to the troops just before charging into battle.



I know JW believe that only a specific number is entering heaven but my belief they are taking Revelation way to literally.
thomas_tutoring2002
2008-01-19 08:53:06 UTC
IN ACCORD WITH THIS text the finality of that number is not yet in tact, since the "great tribulation" would occur soon after:



(Revelation 7:1-3) “. . .After this I saw four angels standing upon the four corners of the earth, holding tight the four winds of the earth, that no wind might blow upon the earth or upon the sea or upon any tree. 2 And I saw another angel ascending from the sunrising, having a seal of [the] living God; and he cried with a loud voice to the four angels to whom it was granted to harm the earth and the sea, 3 saying: “Do not harm the earth or the sea or the trees, UNTIL (my caps) after we have sealed the slaves of our God in their foreheads.””



The 12 tribes are made up from the Christian nation (true christians) , and not Jews, SINCE there was no tribe of Joseph!



The application of individuals having to be Christian in their ways throughout the centuries is based on what a true worshipper of Jehovah God and a follower of Christ does:



(Romans 2:28-29) “. . .For he is not a Jew who is one on the outside, nor is circumcision that which is on the outside upon the flesh. 29 But he is a Jew who is one on the inside, and [his] circumcision is that of the heart by spirit, and not by a written code. The praise of that one comes, not from men, but from God.”
Que bella
2008-01-19 08:41:23 UTC
Puhlease. The 144,000 refers to Jews, not Jehovah's Witnesses. Do some cross referencing.
Jed
2008-01-19 08:45:39 UTC
What? God hasn't lost them, that they need to be found. He knows right where they are.
B.O'REilly
2008-01-19 08:39:22 UTC
I understand the entire town of Fairbanks, Alaska, is included.
BaC Helen
2008-01-19 08:42:47 UTC
This not about Jehovah's Witnesses!!
2008-01-19 08:38:05 UTC
144000 people arent going to heaven..Im sure the number is going to be low, but not THAT low.sheesh
2008-01-19 08:39:04 UTC
I didn't know they were lost.
zorglub
2008-01-19 08:38:20 UTC
I am one of them! except i am not a virgin.
Pagan
2008-01-19 08:38:29 UTC
yes they are all there


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