Question:
Christians! Name one way in which science is compatible with religion?
?
2014-12-06 05:58:19 UTC
Supplementary question: Name one way in which pedophilia is compatible with the priesthood?
Twelve answers:
SunLotus
2014-12-06 11:45:43 UTC
While having a christian background and a rather unusual view upon religion and church (believe in god, but not in it's mortal representatives and institutions) i believe that science and religion are mere extensions from one another...

Look at it like this: Church tells us "believe without question" while science tells us "think, research and prove, then accept it as a fact..". On the surface it appears to be a huge contradiction yet, in it's quest for knowledge science has taken on many beliefs of the mainstream church and proven them right or wrong... in return the church adapted it's ways to the scientific facts incorporating them.(meaning you don't get burned as a heretic for stating that the world is round or that earth is not the center of the universe)

Each of the 2 domains works separately but they challenge each other and they change according to each others proven facts...

(as an example earth not being center of the universe accepted by church and the great floods existence accepted by science due to archeological finds around the black sea region)



As for your second question, i believe pedophilia is compatible with no one... at least that's how it should be. Rumors of priests abusing young boys are wide spread and probably true. As an explanation, catholic priests are to remain pure (not touch a female), so in order to satisfy their earthly desires they bend the rules a bit... but that doesn't make it either legal nor ethical, not to mention that this subject is quite a delicate one.
?
2014-12-06 06:05:06 UTC
So do you believe God was not clever enough to use the big bang, evolution and science as his tools then?



The Pope, Catholic Church, Church of England and mainstream churches all accept the big bang and evolution!



Lord Carey the former Archbishop of Canterbury put it rather well – “Creationism is the fruit of a fundamentalist approach to scripture, ignoring scholarship and critical learning, and confusing different understandings of truth”!



Nice that Christians and atheists can agree and laugh together even if it is at fundie expense!



But behind the laughter is the despair at the fundamentalists striving so hard to destroy Christianity by turning it from a religion to an ideology!
ROMVLVS F.-United Year of Faith
2014-12-06 06:08:24 UTC
Gregor Mendel: father of modern genetics, Augustinian monk, abbot.

Georges Lemaître: Belgian priest who first proposed the Big Bang Theory.

Pope Francis has a masters degree in chemistry.

See the rest at the following link:

http://www.catholic.com/magazine/articles/fathers-of-science



Supp. Question: no, it is not. Those individual priests did terrible things. But, their sins shouldn't cancel out all of the good things that other priests have done.
l
2014-12-06 06:02:31 UTC
Science is compatible with religion because without the Bible (for instance) how would we know that a snake can talk, a bush can talk, a mule can talk, a virgin can give birth, a man can have strength in his hair, a boy can climb a beanstalk to the clouds, bats are birds, and insects have 4 legs
?
2014-12-06 06:53:19 UTC
I can't think of a way in which the two are not compatible. They are separate. It's like asking for one way in which science is compatible with history, or philosophy, or sports.
2014-12-06 07:09:26 UTC
There are a lot of examples in the bible, of things that have been proven scientifically true. There was a time when scientists and philosophers believed that the world was flat, later they proved that it is in fact a sphere. The bible told that to us long ago in Isaiah 40:22.

Technology has advanced very far, but sometimes their theories are not correct
Lighting the Way to Reality
2014-12-06 08:34:20 UTC
Though you ask Christians to name name one way in which science is compatible with religion, I, as an atheist who has studied the Bible, find there is nothing of significance in the Bible, or in the religion derived from it, that is compatible with the relevant aspects of science.





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And when Bible believers try to show there is, all they do is to show their ignorance about both the Bible and science.



@mkayla, for example with her ignorant claim about scientists and philosophers of old believing the earth is flat in contrast with the Bible.





Note: Because only a few verses would not make the case, the material below is necessarily quite extensive and shows that the Bible has a consistent view of the structure of the cosmos throughout, with parts that are fully consistent with each other. That structural consistency indicates that it accurately represents the cosmos as conceived by the writers of the Bible, and is totally different from the findings of science.



According to Ecclesiastes 1:5 the sun goes (hasteth) around the earth



"The sun also ariseth, and the sun goeth down, and hasteth to his place where he arose"



--as, of course, it must, since, according to Ps 93:1, Ps 96:10, and 1 Chr 16:30, the earth does not move. And the earth cannot move because, according to 1 Samuel 2:8 and Ps 75:3, it is placed on pillars. And because it is placed on pillars, it has an underside and an upper side, as confirmed by Isaiah 40:22 which indicates that the earth is a circle--i.e., a flat disk.



That is also confirmed by Proverbs 8:27, which describes god as beginning the creation of the world when he "drew a circle on the face of the deep" (ESV). The Hebrew word translated as “circle,” "compass, “ and “horizon” in the different Bibles is the same word used for circle in Isaiah 40:22. The ancient Hebrews would have gotten the idea of a circular earth by viewing the horizon from the top of a mountain.



(The Hebrew word translated as "circle" in Isaiah 40:22 is chuwg, which means "circle" not "sphere." Strong's Concordance: "circle"..."describe a circle." Hebrew and Aramaic Lexicon of the Old Testament: "Circle...the earth conceived as a disc, Is 40:22." Hebrew-Aramaic and English Lexicon of the Old Testament: "draw round, make a circle." If Isaiah actually meant "sphere" he could have used the Hebrew word duwr, meaning "ball" as he did in Isaiah 22:18.)



(But what is particularly significant is that the Jewish scholars who translated the Hebrew scriptures into the Greek Septuagint during the third century B.C. used the Greek word gyron--γῦρον, meaning circle--for their translation of the Hebrew chuwg, instead of "sphaíra," meaning sphere. So those scholars CLEARLY understood what Isaiah was saying, in contrast to those today who ignorantly say that chuwg means "sphere.")





Underneath the flat disk of the earth is the abyss, the bottomless pit, which is referred to several times in the Bible (ex. Rev. 9:1,2).



That is also what is being referred to in Job 26:7 when it says that the earth hangs over nothing. (The Hebrew word translated "upon" in the KJV also means "over.") The actual sphere of the earth in space is not "suspended' or "hanging" "over" or "upon" nothing. It is orbiting the sun at 66,700 miles per hour. If the earth can be considered "hanging" over anything, it is the sun, which certainly is NOT nothing.



Several other verses in the Bible also indicate the earth is flat, such as Nebuchadnezzar's vision in Dan 4:10-11 (the tree could not be seen from all the earth if it were not flat). Dan 2:28 states that the visions of Nebuchadnezzar are from God. If the biblical god says the biblical earth is flat, it must be flat.





The original Hebrew word translated as firmament is raqiya, which is a noun derived from the Hebrew word raqa. That word is a verb meaning "to beat out," and is used in the bible in reference to beating out metal into plates or expanses of the metal (as in Exodus 39:3). So raqiya, as a noun, would literally mean "that which is beaten out."



The biblical firmament, or sky, is therefore a solid, beaten out expanse or vault set on the rim of the flat disk of the earth. That is confirmed in Job 37:18, which states:



"Can you beat out the vault of the skies as he does,

hard as a mirror of cast metal?" (New English Bible).



There, the Hebrew word translated as "beat out" (or "spread out" in other versions) is, as noted above, raqa.



The solid, or firm, nature of the biblical firmament is also indicated by Proverbs 8:27-28:



27. When he established the heavens...

28. When he made firm the skies above... [ASV, ESV, NRSV, NASV, NAB]



The Hebrew word translated as "firm" there is amats, which has a meaning of "be hard".



The solid vault of heaven is also implied in verses such as Deut 4:32:



"Ask now about the former days, long before your time, from the day God created man on the earth; ask from one end of the heavens to the other. Has anything so great as this ever happened, or has anything like it ever been heard of?"



The "ends of heaven" would be the base of the vault of heaven where it rests on the rim of the disk of the earth.



See also Ps 19:1-6, Isaiah 13:4-5, and, particularly, Matt 24:31, which states Jesus as saying:



"And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other."



The elect are those on the earth who will be saved in the last days. Jesus is saying there that the angels would gather the elect from all over the earth, from one side, or end, of the base of the vault of heaven to the other side or end, from the east, west, north, and south, which is what the reference to the four winds means.



Isaiah 34:4 likewise indicates that the firmament is solid rather than being the upper atmosphere or the emptiness of space.



"the skies will roll up like a scroll,

and all the stars will fall"



The material making up the vault of the firmament will roll up, and the stars that were attached to it will fall to the earth.





The solid vault of heaven has a specific purpose in the Bible. As Genesis chapter one indicates, the whole cosmos consisted of water before the creation process began. Before god created the earth on the fourth day, he created the firmament of heaven on the second day.



6 And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.

7 And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament; and it was so.



So that passage clearly indicates that the purpose of the solid firmament was to hold back the waters above the heaven. Furthermore, those waters continued to exist in the biblical cosmos, as indicated by Psalm 104:1-3 and Psalm 148:4. Also, the firmament of heaven has windows that are opened to let the water above the firmament fall as rain, as indicated by Genesis 7:11 and 8:2,





The stars in the biblical cosmos are just lights set in the firmament. As mere lights in the sky, they will fall to the earth in the Last Days (Matt 24:29), which conflicts with finding that the actual stars are other suns and many times larger than the earth.





So, according to the Bible the earth is a flat, immovable disk, supported by pillars and covered with a solid vault of heaven, the rim of which is is resting on the perimeter of the disk of the earth, and the stars are just lights set in the vault of heaven.



That this is the correct view of the biblical cosmos is shown by the fact that it describes a structure with parts that are fully consistent with each other. That structural consistency indicates that it accurately represents the cosmos as conceived by the ancient Hebrews and as its writers incorporated that view in the Bible.





In addition, according to the Bible, earth is the centerpiece of creation and in the Last Days god will destroy the earth and the heavens as part of his plan for mankind. (2 Peter 3:10)



Is that really realistic considering the vastness of the universe and the enormous number of galaxies? In the actual universe that science has uncovered, the earth is an insignificant mote, even more insignificant than the size of an atom is with respect to the size of the earth. It is therefor the height of geocentric idiocy to think that the whole universe was created merely for the sake of the earth and its inhabitants.





All of which goes to show that the biblical view of the cosmos is nonsense that is contrary to the findings of science.





And, in response to @mikayla's ignorant claim, the ancient Greek scientists and philosophers in the centuries B.C. knew that the earth is a sphere.



In the fourth century B.C. Aristotle presented several scientific arguments for a spherical earth, and Heraclides provided rational arguments to show that the earth is spinning on its axis. And in the third century B.C. Aristarchus even proposed a view of the solar system essentially the same as our modern view. He also measured the distance to the moon and its size with remarkable accuracy. Also in the third century B.C. Eratosthenes measured the circumference of the earth with remarkable accuracy.



Where in the Bible is anything comparable to that to be found? Why didn't the god of the bible provide the ancient Israelites with at least as much knowledge about the cosmos as the ancient Greeks learned all by themselves?

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James O
2014-12-06 07:20:04 UTC
there is no way in which mainline religions are not compatible with the sciences

There is no way pederasty or any sexual sin is compatible with priesthood ,ministry or teaching,etc

few priests are guilty of molestation
?
2014-12-06 06:11:02 UTC
Has nothing to do with compatibility--Cherry picking Christians, for ridicule---and judging others--since your moral compass is different to God.
2014-12-06 06:16:42 UTC
Ask Jesus about everything. "Cursed is the man who puts his trust in man" Jer 17:5

Read HIS words in the gospels (Matthew, Mark, Luke, John) and seek Him in prayer.

You must first repent of your sins and idols and be holy, take Jesus seriously, and He will listen to you.

May Jesus bless you.
paulathome
2014-12-06 06:27:17 UTC
Why use apostate Churche Wretchlings! and abominable persons! as an example of faithfull followers of Christ?
2014-12-06 06:40:52 UTC
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