Question:
Christians only. The Word was God.?
Uknowmee
2011-11-09 08:22:03 UTC
King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)
And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.
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Since the Word was God, we can also say that the breath of life was God.
So one more God's tool join the family in your trinity theory.

And since God created you through your daddy and mummy, two more joined the family of your trinity theory.

And since there are so many parents in the world, more are added to your trinity.

Since the parents of animals created life forms too, more and more are added to your trinity.

When you are sentenced to jail, you can write some words or pluck out hairs of yours and
place them in the cell to serve the sentence for you. Why? Your hairs were you! Just as the Word
was God.

I forget to mention that when you become a parent, you are welcomed to join the trinity club.

Or should I rename it manity (many nity)?

You still don't see that you are fooled by devil's twist of words, Read this:
Isaiah 45:6
That they may know from the rising of the sun, and from the west, that there is none beside me. I am the LORD, and there is none else.

There is only one God! None else. Don't tell me the other forms of God rubbish. Don't tell me that your hair can serve your sentence in jail for you. Don't tell me that its something that nobody can understand.

Can't you stop promoting the trinity theory? Even if Jesus was the living word of God, he is
not God. How many understand that your word(s) can represent you, was part of you, was you but
not you?!

Now do you understand why the Word was God, not the Word is God?

If you do, you will know that Jesus is not God!

Read before you rant your usual BS. Thank you.
Sixteen answers:
Jem A'dar
2011-11-09 09:09:45 UTC
26And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. 27So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.



If you read this carefully you will see GOD said let US create man in OUR image.

Then HE said in the image of GOD he created him.

He wasn't speaking to angels or someone else or He would have said in the image of GOD and angels. And according to your Hair theory. He wouldn't talk to His hair.

You can see the Trinity in these verses and throughout scripture.

Before you falsely accuse GOD to defend your theory you should seek the truth from Him in prayer!
?
2011-11-09 08:40:24 UTC
“THE WORD WAS GOD”

John 1:1 states: “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.” (King James Version) Later in the same chapter, the apostle John clearly shows that “the Word” is Jesus. (John 1:14) Since the Word is called God, however, some conclude that the Son and the Father must be part of the same God.



Bear in mind that this part of the Bible was originally written in Greek. Later, translators rendered the Greek text into other languages. A number of Bible translators, though, did not use the phrase “the Word was God.” Why not? Based on their knowledge of Biblical Greek, those translators concluded that the phrase “the Word was God” should be translated differently. How? Here are a few examples: “The Logos [Word] was divine.” (A New Translation of the Bible) “The Word was a god.” (The New Testament in an Improved Version) “The Word was with God and shared his nature.” (The Translator’s New Testament) According to these translations, the Word is not God himself.* Instead, because of his high position among Jehovah’s creatures, the Word is referred to as “a god.” Here the term “god” means “mighty one.”



GET MORE FACTS

Most people do not know Biblical Greek. So how can you know what the apostle John really meant? Think of this example: A schoolteacher explains a subject to his students. Afterward, the students differ on how to understand the explanation. How can the students resolve the matter? They could ask the teacher for more information. No doubt, learning additional facts would help them to understand the subject better. Similarly, to grasp the meaning of John 1:1, you can look in the Gospel of John for more information on Jesus’ position. Learning additional facts on this subject will help you to draw the right conclusion.



For instance, consider what John further writes in chapter 1, verse 18: “No man has seen [Almighty] God at any time.” However, humans have seen Jesus, the Son, for John says: “The Word [Jesus] was made flesh, and dwelt among us, and we beheld his glory.” (John 1:14, KJ) How, then, could the Son be part of Almighty God? John also states that the Word was “with God.” But how can an individual be with someone and at the same time be that person? Moreover, as recorded at John 17:3, Jesus makes a clear distinction between himself and his heavenly Father. He calls his Father “the only true God.” And toward the end of his Gospel, John sums up matters by saying: “These have been written down that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ the Son of God.” (John 20:31) Notice that Jesus is called, not God, but the Son of God. This additional information provided in the Gospel of John shows how John 1:1 should be understood. Jesus, the Word, is “a god” in the sense that he has a high position but is not the same as Almighty God.



CONFIRM THE FACTS

Think again about the example of the schoolteacher and the students. Imagine that some still have doubts, even after listening to the teacher’s additional explanation. What could they do? They could turn to another teacher for further information on the same subject. If the second teacher confirms the explanation of the first one, the doubts of most students may be put to rest. Similarly, if you are not sure what the Bible writer John was really saying about the relationship between Jesus and Almighty God, you could turn to another Bible writer for further information. Consider what was written by Matthew, for example. Regarding the end of this system of things, he quotes Jesus as saying: “Concerning that day and hour nobody knows, neither the angels of the heavens nor the Son, but only the Father.” (Matthew 24:36) How do these words confirm that Jesus is not Almighty God?



Jesus says that the Father knows more than the Son does. If Jesus were part of Almighty God, however, he would know the same facts as his Father. So, then, the Son and the Father cannot be equal. Yet, some will say: ‘Jesus had two natures. Here he speaks as a man.’ But even if that were so, what about the holy spirit? If it is part of the same God as the Father, why does Jesus not say that it knows what the Father knows?



As you continue your Bible studies, you will become familiar with many more Bible passages that have a bearing on this subject. They confirm the truth about the Father, the Son, and the holy spirit.—Psalm 90:2; Acts 7:55; Colossians 1:15.
Agua Viva
2011-11-09 08:35:47 UTC
"Trinity" was perhaps a poor choice of words for the early Christians that tried to define God, but it is still essentially true. If you actually read the Bible you will see that Jesus is God. There is no way around it. You can pick out particular verses to try to support your particular pet theory, but the substance of the Bible supports the divinity of Christ.



I leave you with these verses. It is very clear. The first refers to JHVH, the second are the words of Christ:



Isaiah 44:6 Thus says the LORD, the King of Israel and his Redeemer, the LORD of hosts: "I am the first and I am the last; besides me there is no god.



Revelation 1:17 When I saw him, I fell at his feet as though dead. But he laid his right hand on me, saying, "Fear not, I am the first and the last,
† Covered Glory †
2011-11-09 08:33:31 UTC
I'm not sure where you're getting at, but lets look at a few things.



While Jesus never comes out and says "I am God!" it is clear that Jesus is in fact God! John 10:30, Jesus says "I and the Father are one" and by the Jew's outrage, we see very clearly that He was proclaiming to be God in the flesh. Also John 1:1, 14 make it clear that Jesus (called here the "Word" as it was one of John's favorite ways of referring to Jesus) was made flesh and walked among us! How can words walk and be made into flesh if it is not a person? 1 John 1:3 says "That which we have seen and heard declare we unto you, that ye also may have fellowship with us: and truly our fellowship is with the Father, and with his Son Jesus Christ."



Jesus is GOD, the true and living God. God is a trinity, that is clear in scripture!
gmanon
2011-11-09 08:38:41 UTC
I agree with you in most of the arguments. But to say that Jesus is not God, is not really true.



Because the bible says that Jesus is equal to God. Philippians 2:5-8

Jesus is the image of the substance. God, The Father is the substance, The Spirit.

Jesus is the visual form of that substance. To see Jesus, is to see God.

Jesus is not a middle man, he is the only way we could ever see God. But we know him by The Spirit reflected in Jesus.



This is why we could worship Jesus and bow before him. And also we know that he received a name that is above any other name. To call upon Jesus, is to call God. Because nobody knew the son, but the Father in the son.
?
2011-11-09 08:30:11 UTC
Had a really hard time following what you were saying in some parts. Fact of the matter is that the trinity stemmed from babylonian mythology. No where in the Bible does it say the word trinity.
anonymous
2011-11-09 10:46:57 UTC
Don't really understand your question. But on the note about the word it's in the book and he said that he is the same today, tomorrow and forever more so if the word was god than it still is.
Tzadiq
2011-11-09 08:28:34 UTC
You know I agree with you. I don't believe in the trinity. However your rant loses logic on your very first statement.



Illconceived, illogical rant is all I see here.



There are much better ways to disprove the trinity
Pat, or that Jesus guy
2011-11-09 08:26:27 UTC
You use foul language with your "BS" comment. Jesus (the word) IS God and since you don't know that you are likely not born again by the Holy Spirit and that is why you use words like lost people do. Heed the word:



Luke 14:34,35 - Jesus said, "Salt is good; but if the salt has lost its flavor, how shall it be seasoned? It is neither fit for the land nor for the dunghill, but men throw it out. He who has ears to hear, let him hear!" ~ The point is that the saltless disciple will be thrown out. The word for salt also means wisdom and grace exhibited in speech. The word for lost its flavor also means to be foolish, to make flat and tasteless. So watch what you say. Don't be foolish and tasteless in what you say, have grace in your speech. ~ I've seen it denied that has anything to do about how we talk, but look at this other Scripture with the same Greek word in it, and you will see it IS about what we say. ~ Colossians 4:6 - Let your speech always be with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer each one. ~ That clearly proves salt means having grace in your speech. The way we talk can make us lose our salvation.
2 Shepherds
2011-11-09 08:25:30 UTC
The breath of life came from God and is part of God. It is not God. Jesus is the Word. (Logos or spokesman). Stop trying to create and change God according to your thoughts and ways. It can't be done. God is triune and consists of God the Father, Jesus and God the Holy Spirit.
anonymous
2011-11-09 08:28:17 UTC
Cool Story Bro!



http://www.promethiumaudio.nl/styled-6/index.html



Tell it again!
Bill Mac
2011-11-09 14:26:29 UTC
Seems you are the one ranting and raving...



Consider this;



John 1:1-3

"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God. All things came into being through Him, and apart from Him nothing came into being that has come into being."



John 1:14

"And the Word became flesh, and dwelt among us, and we saw His glory, glory as of the only begotten from the Father, full of grace and truth."



1 John 1:1

"What was from the beginning, what we have heard, what we have seen with our eyes, what we have looked at and touched with our hands, concerning the Word of Life— and the life was manifested, and we have seen and testify and proclaim to you the eternal life, which was with the Father and was manifested to us— what we have seen and heard we proclaim to you also, so that you too may have fellowship with us; and indeed our fellowship is with the Father, and with His Son Jesus Christ."



Why do you think the religious Jewish people of His day sought to kill Him...



John 10:22-39

"At that time the Feast of the Dedication took place at Jerusalem; it was winter, and Jesus was walking in the temple in the portico of Solomon. The Jews then gathered around Him, and were saying to Him, “How long will You keep us in suspense? If You are the Christ, tell us plainly.” Jesus answered them, “I told you, and you do not believe; the works that I do in My Father’s name, these testify of Me. But you do not believe because you are not of My sheep. My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me; and I give eternal life to them, and they will never perish; and no one will snatch them out of My hand. My Father, who has given them to Me, is greater than all; and no one is able to snatch them out of the Father’s hand. I and the Father are one.”



The Jews picked up stones again to stone Him. Jesus answered them, “I showed you many good works from the Father; for which of them are you stoning Me?” The Jews answered Him, “For a good work we do not stone You, but for blasphemy; and because You, being a man, make Yourself out to be God.” Jesus answered them, “Has it not been written in your Law, ‘I SAID, YOU ARE GODS’? If he called them gods, to whom the word of God came (and the Scripture cannot be broken), do you say of Him, whom the Father sanctified and sent into the world, ‘You are blaspheming,’ because I said, ‘I am the Son of God’? If I do not do the works of My Father, do not believe Me; but if I do them, though you do not believe Me, believe the works, so that you may know and understand that the Father is in Me, and I in the Father.” Therefore they were seeking again to seize Him, and He eluded their grasp."



Philippians 2:1-11

"Therefore if there is any encouragement in Christ, if there is any consolation of love, if there is any fellowship of the Spirit, if any affection and compassion, make my joy complete by being of the same mind, maintaining the same love, united in spirit, intent on one purpose. Do nothing from selfishness or empty conceit, but with humility of mind regard one another as more important than yourselves; do not merely look out for your own personal interests, but also for the interests of others. Have this attitude in yourselves which was also in Christ Jesus, who, although He existed in the form of God, did not regard equality with God a thing to be grasped, but emptied Himself, taking the form of a bond-servant, and being made in the likeness of men. Being found in appearance as a man, He humbled Himself by becoming obedient to the point of death, even death on a cross. For this reason also, God highly exalted Him, and bestowed on Him the name which is above every name, so that at the name of Jesus EVERY KNEE WILL BOW, of those who are in heaven and on earth and under the earth, and that every tongue will confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father."

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HereIAmLord
2011-11-09 08:28:32 UTC
Jesus Christ is "The Word made Flesh."





+Jesus, I Trust In You!

Here I am, Lord.
ricnoodle
2011-11-09 08:40:36 UTC
wow! I really didn't understand a single WORD you said.
joseph8638
2011-11-09 08:28:53 UTC
What a stretch. And a pretty ft fetched idea.
anonymous
2011-11-09 08:24:14 UTC
When will you realize that logic doesn't work with these people?


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