If your an atheist, do you have a problem with the pledge of allegiance..............?

Question

the "one nation under god " part?

Answer 1

Two part answer:



Part One: I don't care for the "under god" portion because I don't pledge allegiance to my country because of god. I pledge allegiance to my country because of the freedoms my country affords me. One of those is not being required to believe in a god. So, why should I have to say it? Why should anyone have to say it?



That doesn't mean it should be taken out. It simply shouldn't have been inserted in the 50s anyway. But if I ever have to say it, I just stay silent during that portion. Or I say "under dog" in my head.



Part Two: I have a problem with the entire pledge. I answered this in another question about the pledge, but basically, comedian Lewis Black once said that the only time we are required to say the pledge is as public school students, particularly elementary school students. And no elementary school student comprehends what the pledge is actually about. It seems like pointless indoctrination.



Now, before anyone accuses me of being unpatriotic, there are thousands of ways to express patriotism. I would never propose to get rid of the pledge; I just find it unnecessary. I don't need to force my kids to wave flags and say the pledge to teach them to appreciate and love their country. They don't have to show outward displays of patriotism to be patriotic. All they have to do is show the country respect.



I could go on and on, but I'll stop there. :)

Answer 2

Firstly, your query is precisely why faith has no position in politics. Non-Christians will have to no longer be pressured to make a pledge "beneath God" or something it's. Secondly, this can be a international discussion board. We're no longer all American. Thirdly, thermodynamics does no longer disprove atheism. I do not understand how you got here to that end. Thermal equilibrium simplest implemented to an remoted procedure, and earth isn't an remoted procedure. There is regular inflow of power from the solar. Fourthly - I do not know what Adolf Hitler, Joseph Stalin and Mao Zedong must do with whatever, however are you suggesting that if each person used to be Christian, there could simplest be well humans on the earth? What approximately John Wayne Gacy and Dennis Rader? They have been each extremely revered contributors in their nearby Christian church buildings. If you do not know who they're, they have been additionally serial killers. And what approximately the entire Christian genocide and "ethnic cleaning" on the earth? The warfare within the former Yugoslavia consisted of the activities slaughter of Muslims by means of Christian Serbs. Even youngsters were not spared. Those Christians sound beautiful! Being Christian does no longer imply you are a well character and being atheist does no longer imply you are a horrible character. I ask you to don't forget the 2 names I acknowledged earlier than - John Wayne Gacy and Dennis Rader, the 2 Christian serial killers. And there may be a few extra names I'd like to say - Andrew Carnegie, Sigmund Freud, Ernest Hemingway, John Lennon, Thomas Edison, Richard Branson, Warren Buffet, Bill Gates, Helen Keller... those humans and lots of extra, are all good revered contributors of society, they've all contributed definitely and lots of of those are beneficiant philanthropists and humanitarians. And all are self-proclaimed atheists. Please do not be ignorant like such a lot of different Christians. Atheism is not a nasty factor. It's simply one more standpoint - and why does it difficulty you besides?

Answer 3

I used to be an atheist, and now I'm not, but both then and now I have a problem with the pledge of allegiance. Why? Because I have a problem with the idea of patriotism. Patriotism, to me, is just another form of religion, and it's not one that I tend to agree with. It's fine to be happy with one's country (surely I would rather live no where else than here in the USA), but to ask people to pledge allegiance to everything the country represents? I cannot. And to tie the idea of patriotism to God, well, seems very blasphemous to me. God would not approve of wars, of killing, of boundaries that divide people...if we are all "under God" this country should be a whole lot more enlightened, don't you think?

Answer 4

I have a problem with the whole thing, to be honest. It's just a tool of propaganda. One can love ones country without pledging to a flag. The "one nation under god" bit, which is not even part of the original pledge, is just the icing.

Answer 5

Athiest or not, the pledge of allegiance has absolutely nothing to do with anyones religious beliefs in this country. It has to do with having respect for the flag that we fly everyday and respect for the men and women who have given their lives so that YOU can have whatever beliefs or non-beliefs that you have. Without them, you WOULD be forced to believe AND practice the beliefs and customs of whomever was running this country. Is that what all of you want? If not, then show your respect to the flag and the freedom that you have or get the H*** out of this country and go somewhere that no one has to hear you bad mouth it.

Answer 6

Since I am an atheist and do not believe there is a god, the "one nation under god" part is meaningless. A phrase without meaning is just an accumulation of words.





AEN

Answer 7

This Country was founded on christianity and the pledge of allegiance is in respect to are Founding Fathers that gave us this Government it should'nt matter if your an Athiest or not.



Its sad that people demean this Country So many people live hear and Don't care about what it took to have it this way



Its not like youre being converted every time you say it its about respect





If you don't like go live in 3rd world Country you might like their pledge better

Answer 8

I am too busy worrying about the genocide in Darfur that has killed over 400,000 people. Compared to that, a few words in some pledge that I never recite doesn't seem like such a big deal. I would have time to worry about the In God We Trust on our money though if it wasn't for the AIDS and famine crises in Africa.

Answer 9

Yes, I do have a problem with it. It suggests that in order to be a patriotic American, I have to also accept someone else's religion. The pledge should be restored to its original form. The "under god" line is a disgraceful vestige of the McCarthy communist witch hunt of the 40s and 50s and even non-Atheists ought to be apalled by that.

Answer 10

considering



1. my school doesnt say the pledge

2. you're not forced to say the pledge even in schools that do it



i don't care



but taking it out would promote the separation of church and state, which has been violated from the point of the first president.



however, younger children are forced to say it. i got in trouble for rushing through it once... now that i think of it. way back when. but... if i had parents that knew their stuff, i coulda got the school in trouble for that, and looking back i'd have laughed.

Answer 11

Hmmm...I'm a nominal Christian who likes secularism but I think if you don't like it, live with it...it is someone's right to be an atheist but if people want to put up crosses and Christmas trees, that's their business. Atheism is not a religion. They can say the pledge of allegiance and live with it.

Answer 12

I have a problem with the fact that *one nation under god* has been inserted in it, just like *in god we trust* on our money.

Answer 13

I certainly do. Eventually, the Supreme Court will rule on the thing and throw that out. I am more than a bit disgusted that they punted when the issue first got to them.

Answer 14

Yes I do, since it wasn't in there from the beginning. I also don't like children being forced to recite it. Patriotism can be so facist.



atheist

Answer 15

I am thankful I'm British, we only have to sing meaningless pap like 'God save our Queen' and we can affirm our oath.

Answer 16

Yes I have a problem with it, just like I have a problem with "IN GOD WE TRUST" on all paper money.

Answer 17

Well ..... that makes the President of the United States a god, isn't it?

Answer 18

No. I have a problem with the nationalistic brainwashing part of it

Answer 19

"one nation under bob"? No, I don't care.

Answer 20

except that isnt the original....it is "one nation indivisible"



that's how I sung it when I was in 3rd grade