Question:
If the great tribulation (Daniel 12:1, Matthew 24:21) is GLOBAL,?
2012-02-14 15:37:58 UTC
why did Jesus only tell those living in Judea to flee to the mountains (Matthew 24:16)?
Eleven answers:
Moi
2012-02-14 15:43:17 UTC
The tribulation that Jesus described was of the Christian church. At that time, the church WAS the apostles for the most part. The great tribulation though spread out to include all Christians who lived during the first few centuries AD.



Many people have heard of Nero throwing Christians to the lions, but Nero isn't the only emperor who is accused of having persecuted the early Christians. The following are the emperors under whose rule you find the 10 major persecutions of Christians during the Roman Empire.



Nero (64 A.D.)

Domitian (c.90-96)

Trajan (98-117)

Hadrian (117-138)

Marcus Aurelius (161-181)

Septimus Severus (202-211)

Maximus the Thracian (235-251)

Decius (249-251)

Valerian (257-260)

Diocletian / Galerius (303-311)



http://ancienthistory.about.com/od/earlychurch/f/10persecutions.htm
MPH
2012-02-14 16:25:43 UTC
He isn't referring to a physical place, or a physical group of people from that place. Judea has a spiritual meaning. It means God's people from all physical nations. They can come from U.S., Mexico, Israel, etc. It means all those who claim to be christian, but aren't really. They're the phonies.



The mountains represent God and/or His truths. It doesn't mean a physical mountain like so many think. See how the word mountain is used in the verses below.



Psalms 72:3

"The mountains shall bring peace to the people, and the little hills, by righteousness."

Isaiah 2:2

"And it shall come to pass in the last days, that the mountain of the LORD'S house shall be established in the top of the mountains, and shall be exalted above the hills; and all nations shall flow unto it."



We are to flee from Judea unto God or unto His truths. I don't know about you, but I've noticed a lot of weird things in the churches lately. They don't seem to worship the true God of the Bible. They worship a god who ignores sins. They no longer mind homosexuality, female preachers, divorce, etc. although the Bible strictly prohibits this. Their god is more concern with political kindness and love than God's kindness and love (His truths). They make a god of their own making, also known as the antichrist. This is the great tribulation Daniel 12:1 and Matthew 24:21 is referring to.



Notice this Daniel 12:1 isn't talking about Judea, but it does talk about the tribulation.



Matthew

15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)



Notice in verse 15 is says, "whoso readeth, let him understand.'



16 Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:
Ernest S
2012-02-14 18:18:21 UTC
Daniel 12:1 refers to Antiochus Epiphanes as the text makes plain - "And at that time..." Daniel 11 exactly describes Antiochus Epiphanes.



Matthew 24:21 refers to the time approaching to and the sacking of Jerusalem in AD 70 as the context makes plain. They were to flee to the mountains to escape the Roman armies, sent as judgement upon the Jews for their murder of Christ, that were encircling and through which an window of opportunity was made for those who heeded Christ's warning. God gave them a generation in which to repent before sending His judgement. These are matters of historical record.





The word translated tribulation in the New Testament describes inward anguish of spirit and is always used to describe such.





There is never any period called "the" great tribulation but only ever reference to great tribulation.



Your reading of the Scriptures is careless and slack and you impose your own interpretation upon the text. Doubtless you have been led by men led by the flesh with their carnal minds.
?
2012-02-14 17:22:49 UTC
He (Jesus) was commenting on those who would be nearby when the "abomination of desolation(s)" reveals itself. It's a sign and it signals almost immediate terrible things for those living nearby the Temple in Jerusalem wherein it will happen. Those in Africa do not need to flee from nearby the Temple in Jerusalem as they will not be nearby the Temple in Jerusalem.



What does it have to do with a/the global tribulation? Supposedly, that same signal marks the beginning of the global tribulation. The rest of the world does not necessarily need to flee to the mountains of Judea, they (might) have other options.



But those nearby, need to get going, post-haste.
Teller Of Truths
2012-02-14 17:02:20 UTC
The end of this wicked system will come in what is called “the great tribulation.” (Rev. 7:14) The Bible does not tell us how long that will last, but Jesus said: “Then there will be great tribulation such as has not occurred since the world’s beginning until now, no, nor will occur again.” (Matt. 24:21) When we consider the tribulation that this world has already experienced, such as in World War II when an estimated 50 to 60 million lives were lost, the coming great tribulation will be very severe indeed. It will reach its climax in the battle of Armageddon. That is when Jehovah will unleash his executional forces to destroy every vestige of Satan’s earthly system.—Rev. 16:14, 16.

Bible prophecy does not give a date for the first phase of the great tribulation to begin, though it does tell us what extraordinary event will signal its start. That event is the destruction of all false religion by the political powers. In Bible prophecies found in Revelation chapters 17 and 18, false religion is likened to a harlot who has had immoral intercourse with the political systems of the earth. Revelation 17:16 shows that the time will soon come when these political elements “will hate the harlot and will make her devastated and naked, and will eat up her fleshy parts and will completely burn her with fire.”

When the time comes for that to happen, God will “put it into their [the political rulers’] hearts to carry out his thought” to destroy all false religion. (Rev. 17:17) So this destruction can be said to come from God. It is his judgment against hypocritical religion that for so long has taught doctrines contrary to God’s will and that has persecuted his servants. The world in general does not anticipate this coming destruction of false religion. But Jehovah’s faithful servants do. And throughout these last days, they have been telling people about it.



’ Daniel’s prophecy foretold “disgusting things” associated with desolation. (Da 9:27) The popular view has generally followed early Jewish tradition in applying this expression to the profanation of Jehovah’s temple at Jerusalem in the year 168 B.C.E. by Syrian King Antiochus IV (Epiphanes). Attempting to stamp out the worship of Jehovah, Antiochus built an altar over the great altar of Jehovah and sacrificed upon this a pig to the Olympian Zeus (Jupiter). An expression like that of Daniel (associating disgusting things with desolation) appears in the Apocryphal book of 1 Maccabees (1:54) as applying to this event.

But this was only the Jewish interpretation of matters, not an inspired revelation. Christ Jesus showed this view to be in error when he gave the warning to his disciples: “Therefore, when you catch sight of the disgusting thing that causes desolation, as spoken of through Daniel the prophet, standing in a holy place, (let the reader use discernment,) then let those in Judea begin fleeing to the mountains.” (Mt 24:15, 16) These words show that “the disgusting thing that causes desolation” was not then past but future.

The pagan desecration of the temple altar by Antiochus, however disgusting in God’s sight, did not result in desolation—for Jerusalem, for the temple, or for the Jewish nation. But 33 years after Jesus’ death, Christians did “catch sight of the disgusting thing that causes desolation . . . standing in a holy place.” (Mt 24:15) In 66 C.E. pagan Roman armies surrounded “the holy city” Jerusalem, now the center of Jewish revolt against Rome. Thus, the ‘causing of desolation’ by the disgusting thing was imminent, and so this was the final signal for discerning Christians to ‘flee to the mountains.’ (Mt 4:5; 27:53; 24:15, 16; Lu 19:43, 44; 21:20-22) Following their flight, the desolation of the city and nation occurred, Jerusalem being destroyed in the year 70 C.E., and the last Jewish stronghold, Masada, falling to the Romans in 73 C.E.
?
2012-02-14 15:41:53 UTC
Because that's where the Abomination which causes Desolation will occur. They have to go to Edom, Moab, and Ammon in order to survive the rest of the Great Tribulation.



Daniel 11

40 “At the time of the end the king of the South will engage him in battle, and the king of the North will storm out against him with chariots and cavalry and a great fleet of ships. He will invade many countries and sweep through them like a flood. 41 He will also invade the Beautiful Land. Many countries will fall, but Edom, Moab and the leaders of Ammon will be delivered from his hand.



EDIT: This is them fleeing here:

Revelation 12

6 The woman fled into the wilderness to a place prepared for her by God, where she might be taken care of for 1,260 days.
?
2012-02-14 16:09:46 UTC
Satan's plan all along has been to totally annihilate the Jews. This is because Jesus told them He would not return until they admitted their collective guilt. (Hosea 5:15) Zechariah 12:10 says the time will come when they will admit their guilt, and according to Joel 3:21, when they do God will pardon them.



If there are no Jews left alive, then Jesus can't return, for there would be no one to admit their guilt. No Jesus, no justice, no Millennial reign and no Satan in chains.



So a remnant must be protected by God from the anti-christ, who by the time of the Abomination of Desolation, will have been indwelt by Satan.



As the battle of Ezekiel 38-39 comes to an end and Daniel’s 70th Week begins, every Jew in the world will have returned to Israel. Ezekiel 39:28 reads: Then they will know that I am the LORD their God, for though I sent them into exile among the nations, I will gather them to their own land, not leaving any behind.



How convenient for Satan to have all the Jews in one place.



Israel will have made a national return to their Old covenant relationship with God.  When they see the Abomination of Desolation 3 1/2 years later they’ll flee into the mountains (Matt. 24:15-16). These mountains are thought to be East of the dead sea in Jordan, where the ancient city of Petra is located. 



Daniel 11:41 says that Edom, Moab and the leaders of Ammon will be delivered from His (anti-Christ’s) hand.  Edom and Moab occupied lands that belong to Jordan today, and the leaders of Ammon are the Hashemite family, with King Abdullah II as its head.  This family has ruled Jordan, whose capital is Ahman (after Ammon), since its inception.



There are several references that when combined lead scholars to conclude that at the beginning of the Great Tribulation, believing Jews will flee to Petra in southern Jordan, where they’ll be supernaturally protected by the Lord. In Matt. 24:16 the Lord warned those in Judea (Israel) to flee to the mountains when they see the Abomination of Desolation.  The closest mountains are to the east in southern Jordan where Petra is located. Rev. 12:14 tells of Satan pursuing them across the desert as they flee to a place prepared for them. This desert lies between Israel and the mountains of southern Jordan around the northern and eastern shores of the Dead Sea. And in Isaiah 63: 1-6 there’s a description of the Lord coming from Bozrah in Edom after single handedly defeating His enemies there. Bozrah is the region of Edom where Petra is located.  This indicates that when the time comes the Lord will declare Jordan off limits to the anti-Christ and give His people refuge there.



Those who believe Islam will be the end times religion take note of the fact that King Abdullah II is the prophet Mohammed’s closest living relative.  This gives him incredible influence in the world of Islam and makes him the custodian of Islam’s holiest sites. If the anti-Christ is also Islamic it seems logical that he would spare Jordan’s leaders as members of Mohammed’s family.



No other country is mentioned in the Bible as being excluded from the anti-Christ’s control.
2015-02-23 17:02:05 UTC
Harpazo = Rapture



END-TIME BIBLE PROPHECY



The Messiah Lord Jesus said BIRTH PANGS would signal the time of the end (Matthew 24:8). There are NINE birth pangs, they are all PRE-TRIBULATIONAL and the 1st three already occurred.



The first birth pang was worldwide conflict coupled with famines and earthquakes (Matthew 24:7-8). Worldwide conflict was fulfilled in 1914-1918, major famines happened in 1918-1921 and most of the world’s major earthquakes began to occur since 1900.



The second birth pang was the restoration of a Jewish State (Ezekiel 20:33-38; Ezekiel 22:17-22; Ezekiel 36:22-24; Zephaniah 2:1-2). This was fulfilled in 1948.



The third birth pang was Jewish control of the Old City of Jerusalem (Revelation 11:1-2). For the third Jewish Temple (Tribulation Temple) to be rebuilt, Jerusalem needs to be under Jewish control and this was accomplished in the Six Day War in 1967.



The fourth birth pang will be the Ezekiel 38 war. Russia, allied states of Iran, Ethiopia, Somalia, Germany and Armenia will invade Israel. God will miraculously destroy the invading army by earthquake, civil war among the invading soldiers, pestilence, blood, flood, hailstones, fire and brimstone. This will bring a revival in Israel where many Jews will turn to the Lord, and Israel will spend 7 years and 7 months burying the bodies and burning for fuel the military equipment left behind (Ezekiel 39:9-16).



The 5th birth pang will be the development of a one world government (Daniel 7:23-24).



The 6th birth pang will be the splitting of the one world government into 10 kingdoms and this Ten Kingdom Stage will continue until mid-Tribulation (Daniel 7:24).



The 7th birth pang will be the revelation of the Antichrist (II Thessalonians 2:1-3; Daniel 7:24).



The 8th birth pang will be a period of peace and false security that will be shattered by the Tribulation (1 Thessalonians 5:1-3).



The 9th and final birth pang before the Tribulation is the signing of the 7-year covenant between Israel and the Antichrist. THIS EVENT IS WHAT BEGINS THE (7-year) TRIBULATION - NOT THE RAPTURE!



The Rapture of the Church (1 Thessalonians 4:16-18) is also a pre-tribulational event (Luke 21:34-37; 1 Thessalonians 1:9-10; 1 Thessalonians 5:1-10; Revelation 3:10; Revelation 19:6-8). The fact that the Church is not mentioned in any of the Tribulation Scriptures proves the Rapture is pre-tribulational. All raptured Christians will receive glorified bodies (Romans 8:22-23; 1 Corinthians 15:50-54)) and it can happen at any second.





THE FIRST HALF OF THE TRIBULATION (SUPPORTING VERSES IN REVELATION 6-9 AND 17)



The Ministry of 144,000 sealed Jewish believers will bring many throughout the world to accept Christ.



There will be a powerful Ministry of Two Witnesses who will also be anointed Jewish believers.



A one world religious system (Babylon the Harlot) will rule. Under this one world religious system, many who are saved during the Tribulation will suffer persecution and death.



The Political system of the 10 kings of the one world government will continue.



During the first half of the Tribulation there will also be war, worldwide famine, death (1/4 of the world’s population will die), a huge earthquake, a blackout and a meteor shower. 1/3 of earth’s dry surface will be destroyed, 1/3 sea life and salt water will be destroyed, a fallen angel called Wormwood will make 1/3 of earth’s fresh water bitter, 1/3 of earth’s natural light sources will be destroyed, there will be another blackout and demons in the form of “locust-scorpions” will come up out of the abyss led by Abaddon their king and they will inflict harm and pain for five months upon those who are not sealed by God (unbelievers). Another demonic invasion will occur and the demons involved will be led by four fallen angels who will be released from the Euphrates River and this army will kill 1/3 of the earth’s population.





MID-TRIBULATION (SUPPORTING VERSES IN REVELATION 10-14 AND 17)



The Antichrist will war against the 10 kings, and during the war the Antichrist will be killed.



Satan will be cast out of the atmospheric heavens onto earth and will resurrect the Antichrist.



The Antichrist will kill 3 kings (the kings of Syria, Egypt and Mesopotamia) and the 7 other kings will submit to him.



The Antichrist will kill the Two Witnesses in Jerusalem and the wicked people will celebrate this event. Three and a half days afterwards, God will resurrect the Two Witnesses and take them up to Heaven and the people who celebrated will become terrified. The city of Jerusalem where the murder of the Two Witnesses occurred will then suffer an earthquake which will kill 7,000 people.



The False Prophet will receive from Satan the power to perform great miracles and will deceive many. The False Prophet will command all people to worship the Antichrist and have persons create an image to the Antichrist. The False Prophet will use his satanic powers to give it life and the ability to speak. The False Prophet will cause those who refuse to worship the Antichrist and the image to be killed.



The False Prophet will issue his own counterfeit seal known as the Mark of the Beast and it will be placed on all those who surrender to the Antichrist’s authority and accept him as god. Those who refuse to take this mark will not be able to buy or sell. Those who take this mark will spend eternity in the Lake of Fire.



The Antichrist will break the seven-year covenant he made with Israel, cause the sacrifices to stop, sit in the Jewish Temple, declare to the world that he is really God and set up an idol called the Abomination of Desolation in the Temple (Daniel 9:27; Daniel 12:11; Matthew 24:15-16; 11Thessalonians 2:3-4; Revelation 13:11-15).



Through the Antichrist and the False Prophet, Satan will attempt to destroy the Jews once and for all but he will fail because 1/3 of the Jews will succeed in fleeing into the wilderness. These Jews who escape will accept the Lord Jesus as their Saviour during the Tribulation (Zechariah 13:7-9) and while they are in hiding, God will miraculously provide for them (Zechariah 13:8-9; Isaiah 41:17-20). Divine intervention will also destroy the pursuing army.





THE SECOND HALF OF THE TRIBULATION (SUPPORTING VERSES FOUND IN REVELATION 15, 16, 18, 19, 20)



In the second half of the Tribulation, those with the Mark of the Beast will suffer skin sores, the remainder of sea water and fresh water will be destroyed, the sun will cause terrible burns and the wicked will blaspheme God. There will be yet another blackout and persons will suffer gnawing pains.



Babylon will be the center of world economy and political system but Babylon will be swiftly destroyed by fire and become uninhabitable for man.



The Antichrist will locate the Jews who sought refuge in the wilderness and surround them with his armies to wipe them out. The Lord Jesus will then descend from Heaven with His angels and Saints. He will come with great glory riding upon a horse and will destroy the Antichrist, the False Prophet and all of their armies. After this, a loud voice will cry out “It is done!” followed by the greatest earthquake in the earth’s history and hail weighing 120 pounds will fall.



At the end of the Tribulation, there will be another blackout, the stars will fall from the sky and the heavenly bodies will be shaken (Matthew 24:29), the Antichrist and the False Prophet will be thrown into the eternal Lake of Fire and Satan will be cast into the Abyss and bound for 1,000 years.





THE MILLENNIUM



The Lord Jesus will reign over the entire earth during the Millennium. The Jewish and Gentile believers who survive the Tribulation will go on to populate the Millennium. Believers who died before and during the Tribulation and believers who were raptured will be present on earth during the Millennium and because they will have glorified bodies they will not reproduce. All believers will be given special tasks by the Lord Jesus (Revelation 20:4-6). There will be no wars (Isaiah 2:2-4), animals will return to the Edenic state and become vegetarians (Isaiah 11:6-9), people will not labour in vain but eat what they plant and inhabit what they build, there will be renovations in the heavens and earth and there will be righteous and unrighteous children born during the Millennium (Isaiah 65:17-25).



At the end of the Millennium, Satan will be loosed from the Abyss and will deceive and gather the unrighteous for a war against the righteous. This will be his final attempt to destroy the righteous and when the unrighteous of the Millennium surround the good people, God will send fire down from Heaven which will suddenly and massively annihilate all of the wicked people. Satan will then be cast into the Lake of Fire where he will remain in torment for eternity (Revelation 20:7-10).





THE GREAT WHITE THRONE JUDGMENT



The Great White Throne Judgment will be the next main event. The old heavens and earth will be done away with and all will stand before God’s throne to be judged (Revelation 20:11-12). Those whose names are not found written in the Book of Life will be cast into the Lake of Fire which will be their final and eternal abode (Revelation 20:14-15).





THE ETERNAL ORDER (REVELATION 21 AND 22)



Those whose names are found in the Book of Life will enjoy paradise with God forever. The heavens and earth will be made new and the New Jerusalem will come down upon the earth making the earth like Heaven. All curses from the fall will be removed and the earth will be inhabited by the Triune God (The Father, Son and Holy Spirit), all angels and all of the righteous. The seas, moon, night and sun will be done away with and the glory of God will illuminate the earth. The River of Life will flow from God’s throne, the Tree of Life will bear health-giving fruits and leaves and the name of Jesus will be on the foreheads of all of the righteous.





God’s Plan of Salvation for Us

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZkDk1GZ7do
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2012-02-14 15:41:24 UTC
The great tribulation of Daniel's time was when Demetrius I killed thousands of Judeans. It doesn't have anything to do with the tribulation of 70 AD.
Vivian
2017-02-20 04:38:34 UTC
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2012-02-15 01:03:41 UTC
jigsaw from 'saw' movie is the antichrist.

devil is black with red eyes.

antichrist is white with red eyes.

jigsaw will rule from jerusalem in a few years.

jerusalem is the whore of babylon.

mark of the beast is similar to the 'in time' movie tattoo; it

will be given with small gray world passport by lasers.

Vyatcheslav Krasheninnikov (1982-1993) said this:

-china will attack russia

-jews will lose war against muslims

-80 foot dinosaurs will come out thru lakes and sinkholes. don't go near lakes and sinkholes.

-statue of liberty will make one step forward and then collapse

-antichrist has white powder on his face. his eyes are red. don't worship him.

-green electronic tattoo will be given by lasers when people stretch their hands to receive small gray world passport. don't take chip. don't take world passport. don't take any tattoos.

-demons dress in fake human skin and fly in ufo ships. don't go into a ufo ship.

people who go into ufo ships to be healed by demons, come out zombies.


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