Question:
Does it take MORE faith to believe in big bang?
MrPlankton
2009-08-24 10:26:42 UTC
Does it take MORE faith to believe in big bang?
29 answers:
Nino
2009-08-24 10:31:30 UTC
You have to be really strong to believe in that.
jellybean
2009-08-24 10:39:15 UTC
I believe it takes more faith to beleive in the big bang theory, because how can something be made out of nothing! Their has to be something first! and noone can tell me that I came from a monkey or whatever else! the Human body is way to complicated to be an "accident" how can an accident create a Woman Body and a Man's Body to fit perfectly together, accident? I think not! Their are to many holes in the Big bang Theory! The only Big Bang Theory I believe is that God spoke it into existence and BANG it happened!
2009-08-24 10:34:08 UTC
Yes, since you have to not only believe that everything came from nothing, but that everything evolved randomly into what it is today. Did you know that only one DNA molecule is more complex than a computer? And no intelligient person would even try to claim that a computer could randomly make all its parts and randomly put them all together to become the complex machine it is. Of course there had to be a designer! And if there had to be a designer for a computer, and a human body is WAY more complex, than how can anyone claim that a human body evolved randomly?

Yes, you have to have faith in creation, but you have to have even more faith in evolutio, which contradicts anything has order or intelligience.



Also, the evidence for evolution is very vague and most of it is easily disproven. If you think that there is evidence for it, search that evidence on answersingenesis.org and it will show how science actually doesn't support it.
2009-08-24 10:38:00 UTC
The big bang is a Victorian era theory that has been blasted right out of the water with the recent finding from the Hubble deep field telescope.



There was no big bang at all. The Universe has always existed via an endless pattern of smaller cycles within bigger ones.



Scientific discoveries and theories are only definite ' possibilities ' until peer reviewed and repeated.



This is the difference between science and theists. Theists claim certainty on thin air supposition while science is leary to call anything certain at all. Certainty is a BIG word after all, the religious claim it with zero substantiation.



Practicing Shaman... quantum physics rocks.
Dj
2009-08-24 10:46:55 UTC
everybody keeps saying "we have evidence." well man, I'd sure like to see it, the best I've heard is: "look how close the human and ape DNA are"

yeah and that's not proof.



They don't have faith for the "Big Bang" they have faith in their "proof" of the big bang.
2009-08-24 10:48:47 UTC
Some of you really need to study the work of Darwin and learn what natural selection is.



I believe in the big bang. There is scientific evidence. There is also evidence of evolution. Show me your evidence that god exists outside your imagination and I might belive that too.
Champion of Knowledge
2009-08-24 10:35:41 UTC
It doesn't take ANY faith to ACCEPT the Big Bang; it is supported by volumes of evidence.



Faith is the only thing supporting belief, and it is not faith in the belief it is faith in the SOURCE of the belief.
2009-08-24 10:45:20 UTC
Anyone obviously does not understand Science, if he says this, and many who say such things try to distort what science says to concoct feeble "straw men" arguments. Faith has no place in science. Evidence is what matters, and the Big Bang is the best cosmogonical theory humans have now. It has more evidence in its favor than the Steady State theory that was once its rival. Some Christians utter such absurdities as the one in your question. Such willful ignorance is appalling. Such mindless statements show no comprehension of such words as "faith", "science", "beliefs", "evidence", etc.
Tony_the_heretic
2009-08-24 10:32:04 UTC
Not at all. And the argument is not valid. I will agree that, despite the evidence for it, the notion that the universe began as a point of infinite mass is very hard to grasp. However, it is simply what evidence suggests. To somehow equate that with angels and invisible demons and the blood of Christ is not valid. Even if the big bang is not complete or correct, it doesn't take some outdated superstition and make it valid
2009-08-24 10:32:06 UTC
Faith is the belief in that for which we have no evidence.

There is no evidence for faith, which is why it's called faith.

There is plenty of evidence for the Big Bang, it's called observable science.



You really think you've got an original idea, don't you?
2009-08-24 10:30:57 UTC
Of course not -- we have EVIDENCE, that PROVES the Big Bang actually occurred.



The astrophysics that predicts the Big Bang also predicts that we should observe three very specific things if it did in fact occur:



1.) Residual background microwave radiation, which is the faint echoes of the original expansion.



2.) A red shift in the light of stars from distant galaxies, as the Universe expands.



3.) A hydrogen-to-helium ratio of 12:1 in the matter that makes up the Universe.



All three have been observed and verified.
2009-08-24 10:34:22 UTC
One doesn't "believe" in the big bang anymore than one might "believe" in the Polio Vaccine.



It's science. The term "belief" doesn't have the same meaning in science as it does when applied to matters of faith and religion.
Dreamstuff Entity
2009-08-24 10:30:30 UTC
Accepting the big bang does not require faith.



The big bang is supported by a great deal of evidence:



* Einstein's general theory of relativity implies that the universe cannot be static; it must be either expanding or contracting.



* The more distant a galaxy is, the faster it is receding from us (the Hubble law). This indicates that the universe is expanding. An expanding universe implies that the universe was small and compact in the distant past.



* The big bang model predicts that cosmic microwave background (CMB) radiation should appear in all directions, with a blackbody spectrum and temperature about 3 degrees K. We observe an exact blackbody spectrum with a temperature of 2.73 degrees K.



* The CMB is even to about one part in 100,000. There should be a slight unevenness to account for the uneven distribution of matter in the universe today. Such unevenness is observed, and at a predicted amount.



* The big bang predicts the observed abundances of primordial hydrogen, deuterium, helium, and lithium. No other models have been able to do so.



* The big bang predicts that the universe changes through time. Because the speed of light is finite, looking at large distances allows us to look into the past. We see, among other changes, that quasars were more common and stars were bluer when the universe was younger.



Note that most of these points are not simply observations that fit with the theory; the big bang theory predicted them.
2009-08-24 10:33:52 UTC
not really. science is open to challenges and opposing theories, even when wrong.



religion demonizes other theories as 'the devil' influence. the Big Bang is simply our best logical educated guess by scientists using an actual process. makes a lot more sense than Zeus (or Jesus or Atum)did it, it's magic. End of, don't question.
Blackacre
2009-08-24 10:30:21 UTC
No: it takes no faith. The Big Bang has evidence: faith is reserved for those things one believes for which there is no evidence.
2009-08-24 10:39:07 UTC
no but it does take more faith to believe in evolution:

Evolutionists generally believe that although the spontaneous generation of life from non-living matter was a highly improbable event, the amount of time available is long enough to overcome this problem. This fallacy is because they (and most of us, really) just haven't gotten around to some actual calculating on some of these problems.



The difficult thing is to conceive the size of some of the figures obtained. James F. Coppedge in the book Evolution: Possible or Impossible? has given some fascinating examples, one of which is here presented. Consider first this statement from the evolutionist George Wald writing on The Origin of Life in the Scientific American (1954):



Time is in fact the hero of the plot. The time with which we have to deal is of the order of two billion years. What we regard as impossible on the basis of human experience is meaningless there. Given so much time, the 'impossible' becomes possible; the possible probable, and the probable virtually certain. One has only to wait; time itself performs the miracles.



Now using Coppedge's figures, let's take a look at the time it would take for one simple gene to arrange itself by chance. Remember, natural selection cannot operate until a self-replicating system is produced. Of course, this gene by itself is still only a dead molecule in the absence of other genes and other complex chemicals all perfectly arranged in time and space. Nevertheless, let us use as many sets as there are atoms in the universe. Let us give chance the unbelievable number of attempts of eight trillion tries per second in each set! At this speed on average it would take l0147 years to obtain just one stable gene. What does this number really mean? Let's look at Coppedge's example; assume we have an amoeba—and let's assume that this little creature is given the task of carrying matter, one atom at a time from one edge of the universe to the other (though to be about thirty billion light years in diameter). Let's further assume that this amoeba moves at the incredible slow pace of one Angstrom until (about the diameter of a hydrogen atom) every fifteen billion years (this is the assumed age of the universe assigned by many evolutionists). How much matter could this amoeba carry in this time calculated to arrange just one usable gene by chance? The answer is that he would be able to carry 2 x 1021 complete universes!
♣ÇhÄøŠ♣
2009-08-24 10:32:42 UTC
Science doesn't need faith,especially when it involves a valid theory with a load of evidence to back it up.
2009-08-24 10:34:02 UTC
Nope
Hailers
2009-08-24 10:33:33 UTC
No, it takes evidence and belief. Religion requires faith, if thats what you're getting at.
2009-08-24 10:30:56 UTC
It takes zero faith. What it takes is education in mathematics, physics, astronomy and cosmology. College in other words.
Wolfechu II
2009-08-24 10:30:45 UTC
Not really, given we discovered conclusive evidence of it around the 1930s.
An Agent of Chaos
2009-08-24 10:35:13 UTC
It takes faith...but the same faith that your doctor knows how to repair your broken femur.
2009-08-24 10:40:30 UTC
at face value, yes.

but the big bang has evidence supporting it...
2009-08-24 10:31:15 UTC
You can see it in radio waves: http://map.gsfc.nasa.gov/universe/bb_tests_cmb.html



No faith required.
za
2009-08-24 10:30:07 UTC
More faith than what?
2009-08-24 10:31:10 UTC
So what, God prefers people who have MORE faith.



"But without faith it is impossible to please Him" Hebrews 11:6
Terry Reno
2009-08-24 10:42:39 UTC
No just more thought.
Miguel
2009-08-24 10:30:07 UTC
No, it takes evidence. We have evidence.
2009-08-24 10:30:47 UTC
Oh yes.


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