Atheists: You do not fully understand your own theory?

Question

You pull out a bunch of mutations that you believe are positive, but can't explain them.

You either misinterpret what's a mutation or you leave out all the negatives during the mutation.

Bacteria becoming resistant to antibiotics is negative for the bacteria.
Bacteria being able to consume nylon is not a mutation, since it's all natural process..

Saying bacteria being able to consume nylon is like saying..
Shaq having tall kids is a mutation.
It's like saying Usain Bolt having fast offspring is a mutation..

Your logic is flawed. I'm just here to show your flawed evolution theory.... No harm intended towards you. and your job is to prove your beloved theory.
Give people reasons and provable evidence that species have evolved positively. Im still waiting.


YamaChaki out.

Answer 1

Science & Religion is like OIL & VINEGAR!



Only Religion & Politics mix well!



1 Tim 6:20

O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust*

(*SOLID RELIGION)



avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of SCIENCE falsely so called.



Heb 11:1-3

Now FAITH*

(*gullibility)



is being sure of what we hope for and certain of what we do not see… By faith we understand that the universe was formed at God's command, so that what is seen was not made out of what was visible*

(*Christians are not allowed to delve into SCIENCE!)



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Science still doesn’t have a final answer for everything.



Science looks at the evidence and draws conclusions, while Christians read some of the Bible and look around for supporting evidence.



If they can’t find any evidence, they are happy to prove that “they walk by faith and not by sight!”



Secular science doesn’t appeal to fundamentalist Christians.



1 Cor 3:19-20

For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. For it is written*

(*all religions are written by people like you and I)



He taketh the wise in their own craftiness. And again, The Lord knoweth the thoughts of the wise, that they are vain*

(*the Bible stories are set up that way!)



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Science has determined that the value of pi is 3.14159…



1 Kin 7:23

He made the Sea*

(*a big caldron)



of cast metal, CIRCULAR in shape, measuring TEN cubits FROM RIM TO RIM…*

(*10 units of measure for the diameter)



IT TOOK A LINE OF THIRTY CUBITS TO MEASURE AROUND IT*

(*30 units of measure for the circumference)



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The intelligent designer God has DEMONSTRATED that the value of pi equals 3.



No scientific Christian would ever dare to correct God!



Pro 20:10

Divers weights, and divers MEASURES both of them are alike an ABOMINATION to the LORD*

(*God only recognizes his own set of weights and measurements)



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As American Citizens, Christian kids in the Public School system are forced to forfeit any Constitutional right believing the Bible stories, or they won’t pass the grade!



Christians believe in RESURRECTION based on what Jesus was saying about a SEED that MUST DIE to grow into a tree, or a plant.



Jesus never knew that anything that DIES IS DEAD! Period!



Joh 12:24

I* (*Jesus) tell you the truth,*

(*that only Christians would BELIEVE!)



UNLESS a kernel of wheat falls to the ground and DIES, it remains only a single seed. BUT IF IT DIES, it produces many seeds*

(*Christians, especially Preachers, believe this classical Bible LIE because they lack the necessary scientific knowledge to know that a seed that dies produces no more seeds!)



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God the Son Jesus Christ does not know agriculture!



Jesus cursed the Hell out of one fig tree because he thought that it would bear figs ALL YEAR AROUND!



Mar 11:13

And seeing a fig tree afar off having leaves, he* (*Jesus) came, if HAPLY*

(*HE DIDN’T KNOW!)



he might find ANY THING thereon*

(what else can you find in a fig tree?)



and when he came to it, he found nothing but leaves; for the time of figs was not yet*

(*OUT OF SEASON! in Bible schools they teach future PREACHERS that GOD expects them to bear fruit, i.e. MAKE MONEY, all year around! Every member of the Holy Trinity CURSES people not tithing –Mal3:9-10,Mat25:41,Act5:1-11)



Rev 7:1

And after these things I saw four angels standing on the FOUR CORNERS of the earth, holding the FOUR WINDS of the earth*

(*Fundie Christians know that the Earth has 4 corners with 4 winds still to be discovered)



that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree*

(*this is a bizarre trick worth watching)



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In Gen1:3-5 God says that on the FIRST DAY, before creating the Sun, he created LIGHT to “separate light from darkness” and that was the evening and morning ONE DAY… and on the 4th day God creates the SUN to “separate light from darkness,” Oops… AGAIN, but this time it works OK, on a flat Bible Earth, of course (Gen1:14-19)!



Some powerful Christian politicians like Pat Robertson hate science. He claims that science is a Communist plot to hurt America!



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WynH9nJuSuk&NR=1



2 Cor 5:7

for we walk by faith, not by sight*

(*GODDIDIT! Christians can be very easily confused in every field of science, especially medicine)

Answer 2

"Atheists: You do not fully understand your own theory?"



At first I was thinking "what is the theory of atheism?", then I realised you were referring to the theory of evolution and had no idea what you were talking about.



"You pull out a bunch of mutations that you believe are positive, but can't explain them."



Mutations occur as a natural process of reproduction. Natural selection acts upon these mutations - weeding out the negative while ensuring the positive are passed on to successive generations (but most are neutral). There, easy to explain.



"Bacteria becoming resistant to antibiotics is negative for the bacteria."



Umm, no it isn't. If bacteria becomes resistant to something harmful to it, then it has an increased rate of survival. Simple.



"Bacteria being able to consume nylon is not a mutation, since it's all natural process."



Nylon is a relatively new substance. Bacteria has evolved in our time such that it is able to consume it exclusively, without any other food source.



"Saying bacteria being able to consume nylon is like saying..

Shaq having tall kids is a mutation.

It's like saying Usain Bolt having fast offspring is a mutation."



Equivocation fallacy. They are in no way alike.



"and your job is to prove your beloved theory."



No, it's scientists jobs to disprove (not prove) scientific theories. I (and many others) just happen to be educated enough to explain science to the scientific illiterate.



"Give people reasons and provable evidence that species have evolved positively."



The theory of evolution has been proven. It is one of the most strongly supported theories in any scientific field.



"Im still waiting."



Perhaps instead of spouting ignorance, you should do some actual research on a subject you clearly know nothing about.

Answer 3

Unfortunately for you, evolution is a theory in that it explains a process which is a fact. Evolution is a fact. Period.



If you had actually done the research (read the works of Darwin, been to a Natural History Museum, looked at the fossils, saw the graphs, saw the dates, etc.) there would be no doubt in your mind. The only reason you fail to accept the Fact of Evolution is because it directly conflicts with your literal interpretation of a 3,000 year old book written by cattle-sacrificing, iron age, Palestinian primitives who thought that the Earth was flat.



The bible tells us that the earth is less than 10,000 years old. (5,700 - 10,000 to show the span). We know that this is not the case for many reasons. The most widely accepted creationist approximation is that the world (or at least man) was created roughly 6,000 years ago. This is, in fact, about 1,000 after the Mesopotamians invented glue.



Creationism vs. Evolution is not an argument. For there to be an argument, both sides require evidence. Creationism has (quite literally) no tangible evidence. Evolution, on the other hand, could be disproven in a moment, yet every discovery has either supported or cohered with the theory.



Also, there are many religious people who accept the Fact of Evolution. Being an evolutionist does not make you an atheist, it simply means that you are intelligent enough to understand fact when it smacks you in the face.

Answer 4

Evolution is not an atheist theory! It is a scientific theory that is supported by many atheists, theists, and deists.



You pull out two statements about bacteria to support your claim. First off, how is bacteria becoming resistant to antibiotics bad for bacteria? It allows it to better survive and reproduce by protecting it from antibiotics. That can be bad for people, but it isn't bad for bacteria.



What is with this whole thing about bacteria being able to eat nylon. I've never heard that used as evidence of evolution. For that reason, you following statements about Shaq and Usain Bolt don't make a lot of sense.



As an atheist, it is not my job to prove evolution. Atheism and evolution are not necessarily connected. I will, however, point out a little bit of evidence for evolution. Take a look at your wisdom teeth, your appendix, your tail bone, and your small toe and finger. All of these are remnants of evolution. Next, study the fossil record which shows the progress of evolution. Look at the DNA similarities between species which show when different species diverged. The evidence is all there.

Answer 5

This is about the fifth time you've tried pulling this idiotic circular argument in the last half hour:



If it's beneficial, it's not a mutation

If it's a mutation, it's not beneficial.



And you've been shown to be wrong over and over and over again.

Persistence in the face of public humiliation is not a virtue when the reason you are being humiliated is because you are talking out your ****.

Answer 6

The theory of evolution is not my theory. It is not an atheistic theory. It is a biological theory. There is nothing in the theory of evolution that excludes the existence of gods. It, at best, shows that gods are not necessary for that particular biological process.



You do not know what you're talking about, it is obvious you have never studied biology in any depth and it is painfully clear that you don't care that you don't know what you're talking about. What a shame.

Answer 7

So, I was right.

You are both a liar and a moron.



And definitely a troll.





>> YamaChaki out.

I doubt it.









Now I'm going to go have a bowl of delicious ice cream.



























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@ Kael - Several questions ago, the troll asked for examples - just examples - of positivie mutations. Nylonase is one that was given. So he latched onto it. And he now claims it didn't count because we didn't provide several articles worth of genetics research to explain it. Which tends not to happen when one is simply providing examples.



It's OK though. Goalpost-moving is one of the best markers of the Creationist Troll. It makes it much easier to identify the genuine article.

Answer 8

A scientific theory is a unifying concept that explains a large body of data. It is a hypothesis that has withstood the test of time and the challenge of opposing views. TheTheory of Evolution is supported by extensive data. There is no reliable data supporting the some-god-did-it hypothesis, and especially not the Yahweh-did-it hypothesis.



The Theory of Evolution has overwhelming and conclusive evidence. There are at least eleven areas of study and empirical data supporting the Theory of Evolution. They are:

* Paleontology (fossils)

* Genetics

* Distribution of Animals and Plants

* Comparative Anatomy

* Embryology

* Vestigial Organs

* Natural Selection

* Sexual Selection

* Molecular Biology

* Bad Design

* Lab Experiments



The Theory of Evolution is the basic unifying concept of biology. The CEO of The American Association for the Advancement of Science, Alan Leshner, wrote, “Although scientists may debate details of the mechanisms of evolution, there is no argument among scientists as to whether evolution is taking place.” The National Academy of Sciences, the most prestigious scientific organization in the United States, has declared evolution “one of the strongest and most useful scientific theories we have,” and notes that evolution is supported by an overwhelming scientific consensus. The Theory of Evolution has as much validity as the theory of gravity, atomic theory, or the germ theory of disease.



For more evidence, see the first four links. The first link has the evidence that conclusively proves that humans share common ancestry with the chimps, apes, and orangutans.

Answer 9

The only thing an atheist believes is that there are no gods. Where does that include or exclude a belief in evolution?

Answer 10

I'm not a scientist. It's not my theory. I'm an atheist. I refuse to accept YOUR theory, which you can't explain. It is stupid, ridiculous, and a waste of everyone's time. You're an idiot. And your analogy with bacteria and nylons literally makes no sense. Thank you for wasting my time with your stupid question. Evolution is a fact; like gravity. It is only considered a "theory" because it is impossible to recreate on the full scale because it takes millions of years. It has already been recreated on the small scale.

Answer 11

Wait... How is it negative for the bacteria? It prolongs it, not kills it. If a bacteria is resistant to a threat(antibiotics) then that mutation is POSITIVE for the bacteria, not negative.

Answer 12

Atheism is the understanding that you have yet to produce any evidence of a god, nothing else, regardless of how many absurd comments you make.

Answer 13

And what belief system do you follow that promotes such an attitude of arrogance, elitism, and superiority over those with whom you don't agree? Is this what Athiesm teaches you?..

Answer 14

This question, like the others you have posted, are meaningless. What's more I'm certain you know they are meaningless yet you post them anyway. My guess is you are trying to convince people who will not be willing to think too hard about what you are saying. In short, you are all flash and no substance.

Answer 15

You do not know what an atheist is nor do you understand evolution. An atheist is someone who does not believe in gods. That's it. Evolution is science and is accepted by all the mainstream Christian religions. It is only the fundamentalist sects that refuse to use their brains.

Answer 16

I didn't know that a requisite for not believing in a deity is that you have to be a scientist. Did not see that in the definition of atheist....damn you Wikipedia!

Answer 17

Evolution and atheism are for grownups. You aren't expected to understand.

Answer 18

I think you were soundly whipped by us the last time you asked this (good move, leaving that part out about the man with stumps for hands this time).



We understand "our" theory perfectly, it would seem to be you who are confused here.

Answer 19

Ah. My friend. The mutations are not our theories. They are science's facts. Your own logic you used in this question is much more flawed than our own. Please go get yourself educated.

Answer 20

My daughter, her cousins, my friends' sons and daughters, their friends are living proof that homo sapiens are evolving and in the most positive sense.

Answer 21

The same sort of thick-headedness and megalomania of the Time-Cube Guy...

Answer 22

Actually I think it's you that needs to understand science.



Please tell me how it doesn't benefit bacteria from being resistant to something that would otherwise kill it?

Answer 23

why dont you post in biology section?



affraid to get an answer?

Answer 24

theist how about you prove your invisible sky daddy theory.

Answer 25

Dude what ever you are smoking you need to stop it's not working!!!

Answer 26

Want some crack? I can get you some crack.