144, 000 ? Rapture/ Armageddon? Help please?

Question

i go to a Jehovah's witness church. i DON'T believe a lot of what they believe, but i'm 13 so i'm forced to go. and when "armageddon" comes, 144, 000 will be resurrected. but many people say we don't know a specific number. and i have the NWT bible, (new world translation" rev 14:1 says 144,000.
and then the KJV said the same.
so does: NIV, NLT, The message, God's Word Translation, ESV, New KJV, and some others.
can someone please explain? PLEEEAAASSSEEEEE. no hate also, it's a question, but if you put your opinion, i'll respect that, but please have respect for me also, thank you.

Answer 1

It doesn't say only 144,000 will be resurrected it says only 144,000 will be sealed. Notice that it says "from every tribe of the sons of Israel", if you aren't a descendant of one of the original 12 tribes of Israel then according to your beliefs you have no hope at all of being resurrected. The passage then goes on to mention "a great multitude which no one could count, from every nation and all tribes and peoples and tongues", if your beliefs state that only 144,000 will be saved then who is the great multitude that no one can count?



Revelation 7:4 And I heard the number of those who were sealed, one hundred and forty-four thousand sealed from every tribe of the sons of Israel: 5from the tribe of Judah, twelve thousand were sealed, from the tribe of Reuben twelve thousand, from the tribe of Gad twelve thousand, 6from the tribe of Asher twelve thousand, from the tribe of Naphtali twelve thousand, from the tribe of Manasseh twelve thousand, 7from the tribe of Simeon twelve thousand, from the tribe of Levi twelve thousand, from the tribe of Issachar twelve thousand, 8from the tribe of Zebulun twelve thousand, from the tribe of Joseph twelve thousand, from the tribe of Benjamin, twelve thousand were sealed. 9After these things I looked, and behold, a great multitude which no one could count, from every nation and all tribes and peoples and tongues, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, clothed in white robes, and palm branches were in their hands; 10and they cry out with a loud voice, saying, “Salvation to our God who sits on the throne, and to the Lamb.” 11And all the angels were standing around the throne and around the elders and the four living creatures; and they fell on their faces before the throne and worshiped God, 12saying, “Amen, blessing and glory and wisdom and thanksgiving and honor and power and might, be to our God forever and ever. Amen.” 13Then one of the elders answered, saying to me, “These who are clothed in the white robes, who are they, and where have they come from?” 14I said to him, “My lord, you know.” And he said to me, “These are the ones who come out of the great tribulation, and they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb. 15“For this reason, they are before the throne of God; and they serve Him day and night in His temple; and He who sits on the throne will spread His tabernacle over them. 16“They will hunger no longer, nor thirst anymore; nor will the sun beat down on them, nor any heat; 17for the Lamb in the center of the throne will be their shepherd, and will guide them to springs of the water of life; and God will wipe every tear from their eyes.”

Answer 2

I disagree with a couple of the responses. I think there are going to be two 3 1/2 year periods but the second half will involve the total 144,000 administering the business of the Kingdom. Maybe there are exactly 144,000 and someone can count them!

The so called Armageddon is misunderstood in my opinion. It happens at the end of the thousand years rule without Satan's influence. Heeza come back SMOKIN and recruit a huge army which will be ended by divine intervention.

Answer 3

MAn was created to live on earth. Eve listened to Satan and Adam listened to Eve. All on earth in their garden. As God intended They blew it and lost their Future.



Over the course of years it became necessary to have a government to settle the arguments of people so an earthly governments were formed.

There has to be and end to things done wrong and that's where the heavenly government comes in, requiring some of the faithful to work with us who do not have the heavenly calling.

A fitting reward for a number of people is the see God and HE picks the best of the best. 144,000 more or less.



As to the Rapture It was invented by a preacher back in the 1800"s,,,,,,,,exactly back wards of what the bible teaches.



Finally, the New World translation is the most accurate >>>TRANSLATION<<< There is available.

Most of the others are a version of another translation.



Don't be swayed by the opinions of others who will under Satan's influence make something else look good or better than what you have.



A faithful brother

Answer 4

The Number is true in many ways, there is a ministry that now gathers the 144,000 who can sing the new song and hopely 100's more, have someone of an age bring to these websites where Gods mystery is now finished Rev:10:7... Also for viewing Gods Holy Spirit on film which hides no more Isaiah 45:15... http://www.adamandeveseedgatheringministry.com and http://adamandeveinaction.blogspot.com/ and http://messiahsgatheringquakes.blogspot.com/ it has begun...

Answer 5

As far as I can tell, the 144, 000 are not going to die. From what I can gather, they will complete the spreading of the Gospel in the world and then be raptured in the mid-point of the Great Tribulation. Their "parents" will be in Israel before the beginning of the Great Tribulation, the "stick" of Judah (Ezekiel 37) is already there, the stick of Joseph/ Ephraim isn't there yet, so it's one of the signs I'm looking for.



Armageddon will not happen until after they leave . . . about three years after.



EDIT: I'm hoping that my answer helped, but I am looking over what you wrote in order to decipher the question . . .



EDIT AGAIN: The beginning of the chapter has the 144, 000 with Jesus in Heaven. That is after they are raptured in the mid-point of the Great Tribulation.



EDIT YET AGAIN: One key to understanding when the 144,000 are on earth is in Revelation 12. They are that "man-child", it's not Jesus. The woman is Israel, and I think the Jehovah's Witnesses think that it is Israel and not Mary the Mother of Jesus also. But, they have the 144,000 wrong in that it's not them . . . the Jehovah's Witnesses who will be chosen by God. You know, those who take the "Emblems", who think enough of themselves to take the Emblems placing themselves above everyone else? Man, that practice sucks.



EDIT AFTER ALL THE OTHER EDITS:

I can't tell if you are seeing this. So email me about it and I'll try to help you as much as possible.

Answer 6

First, it doesn't say that the 144,000 will be resurrected, but ''are bought from among mankind as first-fruit,'' or the best of.-Rev 14:4-5

They are the ones that will rule as kings and priest, (Rev 20:1-6) over the earth for a thousand years.

Answer 7

Many people are confused about the time-line, but here are some videos and information that will help you. I also included my testimony.



The Antichrist Code

http://www.second8thweek.org/content.php?id=122



2012

http://www.second8thweek.org/content.php?id=197



God’s Time-line

http://www.second8thweek.org/content.php?id=231



Apostle Eric’s Testimony Part 3

http://www.second8thweek.org/content.php?id=120



Apostle Eric’s Testimony Part 4

http://www.second8thweek.org/content.php?id=121



Baptism of light

http://book-of-enoch.org/the-baptism-of-…



The Seed of the inheritance in the conscience http://youtu.be/7ZSNQHYEHL0



Books of Enoch http://book-of-enoch.org/

Answer 8

The 144,000 Anointed ones will be in heaven. The rest of us will reside on paradise earth (Psalms 37:29)



Here's an article that relates to your question

http://www.watchtower.org/e/20100201a/article_03.htm

Answer 9

Nobody can force you to do anything you don't want to do. Tell you parents that you don't believe in a lot of the stuff JW says.

Answer 10

The 144,000 are going to being Messianic JEWS !

See Rev 7:4.....



(you are being lied to which is why you're feeling messed up!)

Answer 11

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Answer 12

Harpazo = Rapture



END-TIME BIBLE PROPHECY



The Messiah Lord Jesus said BIRTH PANGS would signal the time of the end (Matthew 24:8). There are NINE birth pangs, they are all PRE-TRIBULATIONAL and the 1st three already occurred.



The first birth pang was worldwide conflict coupled with famines and earthquakes (Matthew 24:7-8). Worldwide conflict was fulfilled in 1914-1918, major famines happened in 1918-1921 and most of the world’s major earthquakes began to occur since 1900.



The second birth pang was the restoration of a Jewish State (Ezekiel 20:33-38; Ezekiel 22:17-22; Ezekiel 36:22-24; Zephaniah 2:1-2). This was fulfilled in 1948.



The third birth pang was Jewish control of the Old City of Jerusalem (Revelation 11:1-2). For the third Jewish Temple (Tribulation Temple) to be rebuilt, Jerusalem needs to be under Jewish control and this was accomplished in the Six Day War in 1967.



The fourth birth pang will be the Ezekiel 38 war. Russia, allied states of Iran, Ethiopia, Somalia, Germany and Armenia will invade Israel. God will miraculously destroy the invading army by earthquake, civil war among the invading soldiers, pestilence, blood, flood, hailstones, fire and brimstone. This will bring a revival in Israel where many Jews will turn to the Lord, and Israel will spend 7 years and 7 months burying the bodies and burning for fuel the military equipment left behind (Ezekiel 39:9-16).



The 5th birth pang will be the development of a one world government (Daniel 7:23-24).



The 6th birth pang will be the splitting of the one world government into 10 kingdoms and this Ten Kingdom Stage will continue until mid-Tribulation (Daniel 7:24).



The 7th birth pang will be the revelation of the Antichrist (II Thessalonians 2:1-3; Daniel 7:24).



The 8th birth pang will be a period of peace and false security that will be shattered by the Tribulation (1 Thessalonians 5:1-3).



The 9th and final birth pang before the Tribulation is the signing of the 7-year covenant between Israel and the Antichrist. THIS EVENT IS WHAT BEGINS THE (7-year) TRIBULATION - NOT THE RAPTURE!



The Rapture of the Church (1 Thessalonians 4:16-18) is also a pre-tribulational event (Luke 21:34-37; 1 Thessalonians 1:9-10; 1 Thessalonians 5:1-10; Revelation 3:10; Revelation 19:6-8). The fact that the Church is not mentioned in any of the Tribulation Scriptures proves the Rapture is pre-tribulational. All raptured Christians will receive glorified bodies (Romans 8:22-23; 1 Corinthians 15:50-54)) and it can happen at any second.





THE FIRST HALF OF THE TRIBULATION (SUPPORTING VERSES IN REVELATION 6-9 AND 17)



The Ministry of 144,000 sealed Jewish believers will bring many throughout the world to accept Christ.



There will be a powerful Ministry of Two Witnesses who will also be anointed Jewish believers.



A one world religious system (Babylon the Harlot) will rule. Under this one world religious system, many who are saved during the Tribulation will suffer persecution and death.



The Political system of the 10 kings of the one world government will continue.



During the first half of the Tribulation there will also be war, worldwide famine, death (1/4 of the world’s population will die), a huge earthquake, a blackout and a meteor shower. 1/3 of earth’s dry surface will be destroyed, 1/3 sea life and salt water will be destroyed, a fallen angel called Wormwood will make 1/3 of earth’s fresh water bitter, 1/3 of earth’s natural light sources will be destroyed, there will be another blackout and demons in the form of “locust-scorpions” will come up out of the abyss led by Abaddon their king and they will inflict harm and pain for five months upon those who are not sealed by God (unbelievers). Another demonic invasion will occur and the demons involved will be led by four fallen angels who will be released from the Euphrates River and this army will kill 1/3 of the earth’s population.





MID-TRIBULATION (SUPPORTING VERSES IN REVELATION 10-14 AND 17)



The Antichrist will war against the 10 kings, and during the war the Antichrist will be killed.



Satan will be cast out of the atmospheric heavens onto earth and will resurrect the Antichrist.



The Antichrist will kill 3 kings (the kings of Syria, Egypt and Mesopotamia) and the 7 other kings will submit to him.



The Antichrist will kill the Two Witnesses in Jerusalem and the wicked people will celebrate this event. Three and a half days afterwards, God will resurrect the Two Witnesses and take them up to Heaven and the people who celebrated will become terrified. The city of Jerusalem where the murder of the Two Witnesses occurred will then suffer an earthquake which will kill 7,000 people.



The False Prophet will receive from Satan the power to perform great miracles and will deceive many. The False Prophet will command all people to worship the Antichrist and have persons create an image to the Antichrist. The False Prophet will use his satanic powers to give it life and the ability to speak. The False Prophet will cause those who refuse to worship the Antichrist and the image to be killed.



The False Prophet will issue his own counterfeit seal known as the Mark of the Beast and it will be placed on all those who surrender to the Antichrist’s authority and accept him as god. Those who refuse to take this mark will not be able to buy or sell. Those who take this mark will spend eternity in the Lake of Fire.



The Antichrist will break the seven-year covenant he made with Israel, cause the sacrifices to stop, sit in the Jewish Temple, declare to the world that he is really God and set up an idol called the Abomination of Desolation in the Temple (Daniel 9:27; Daniel 12:11; Matthew 24:15-16; 11Thessalonians 2:3-4; Revelation 13:11-15).



Through the Antichrist and the False Prophet, Satan will attempt to destroy the Jews once and for all but he will fail because 1/3 of the Jews will succeed in fleeing into the wilderness. These Jews who escape will accept the Lord Jesus as their Saviour during the Tribulation (Zechariah 13:7-9) and while they are in hiding, God will miraculously provide for them (Zechariah 13:8-9; Isaiah 41:17-20). Divine intervention will also destroy the pursuing army.





THE SECOND HALF OF THE TRIBULATION (SUPPORTING VERSES FOUND IN REVELATION 15, 16, 18, 19, 20)



In the second half of the Tribulation, those with the Mark of the Beast will suffer skin sores, the remainder of sea water and fresh water will be destroyed, the sun will cause terrible burns and the wicked will blaspheme God. There will be yet another blackout and persons will suffer gnawing pains.



Babylon will be the center of world economy and political system but Babylon will be swiftly destroyed by fire and become uninhabitable for man.



The Antichrist will locate the Jews who sought refuge in the wilderness and surround them with his armies to wipe them out. The Lord Jesus will then descend from Heaven with His angels and Saints. He will come with great glory riding upon a horse and will destroy the Antichrist, the False Prophet and all of their armies. After this, a loud voice will cry out “It is done!” followed by the greatest earthquake in the earth’s history and hail weighing 120 pounds will fall.



At the end of the Tribulation, there will be another blackout, the stars will fall from the sky and the heavenly bodies will be shaken (Matthew 24:29), the Antichrist and the False Prophet will be thrown into the eternal Lake of Fire and Satan will be cast into the Abyss and bound for 1,000 years.





THE MILLENNIUM



The Lord Jesus will reign over the entire earth during the Millennium. The Jewish and Gentile believers who survive the Tribulation will go on to populate the Millennium. Believers who died before and during the Tribulation and believers who were raptured will be present on earth during the Millennium and because they will have glorified bodies they will not reproduce. All believers will be given special tasks by the Lord Jesus (Revelation 20:4-6). There will be no wars (Isaiah 2:2-4), animals will return to the Edenic state and become vegetarians (Isaiah 11:6-9), people will not labour in vain but eat what they plant and inhabit what they build, there will be renovations in the heavens and earth and there will be righteous and unrighteous children born during the Millennium (Isaiah 65:17-25).



At the end of the Millennium, Satan will be loosed from the Abyss and will deceive and gather the unrighteous for a war against the righteous. This will be his final attempt to destroy the righteous and when the unrighteous of the Millennium surround the good people, God will send fire down from Heaven which will suddenly and massively annihilate all of the wicked people. Satan will then be cast into the Lake of Fire where he will remain in torment for eternity (Revelation 20:7-10).





THE GREAT WHITE THRONE JUDGMENT



The Great White Throne Judgment will be the next main event. The old heavens and earth will be done away with and all will stand before God’s throne to be judged (Revelation 20:11-12). Those whose names are not found written in the Book of Life will be cast into the Lake of Fire which will be their final and eternal abode (Revelation 20:14-15).





THE ETERNAL ORDER (REVELATION 21 AND 22)



Those whose names are found in the Book of Life will enjoy paradise with God forever. The heavens and earth will be made new and the New Jerusalem will come down upon the earth making the earth like Heaven. All curses from the fall will be removed and the earth will be inhabited by the Triune God (The Father, Son and Holy Spirit), all angels and all of the righteous. The seas, moon, night and sun will be done away with and the glory of God will illuminate the earth. The River of Life will flow from God’s throne, the Tree of Life will bear health-giving fruits and leaves and the name of Jesus will be on the foreheads of all of the righteous.





God’s Plan of Salvation for Us

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZkDk1GZ7do

Answer 13

Chosen ones lifted up out of the grave, asleep, dead, they will be awoken by the spirit. out of all nations, tribes.

Answer 14

considering that there's only 144000 spaces in heaven, why do the jovial witlesses proselytise so hard? they are only minimising their chances of being chosen





It is another one of the nonsenses that fly in the face of reason. All religions have them.

Answer 15

Party Rock is in the house tonight, everybody just hav a good time and we gonna make you lose your mind



We just wanna see ya **shake that**

Answer 16

You're letting your delusion take over all rationality.



It's rather sad :(

Answer 17

I was # 143,997. I hope you were ahead of me in line.

Answer 18

Don't worry, it's all made up if that helps.