Question:
If some doctors or scientists ask us to pray, how can it be a proof for the existence of God?
odampully
2011-04-07 21:31:24 UTC
Sri Madhukar says: "Many doctors, especially surgeons tell the relatives of the patient that they will try their best and the rest is in the hands of God. If doctors are scientists, why do they fall back upon God and not tell the relatives not to worry and guarantee that they will save the patient? How would you react if your doctor told you to pray God ?"
Doctors are human beings and they also have weakness. God belief is a weakness of some doctors. They ask us to pray for our relatives. Is it not a proof for their weakness? How can it be a proof for the existence of God?
Seventeen answers:
?
2011-04-09 03:40:30 UTC
It cannot be a proof for the existance or non existance of god. He said it to get some mental strength to the patients and his relatives to face things which is very important in the therapy.
StraightDrive
2011-04-08 06:31:21 UTC
It is not a proof of God but a belief that prayer may help. It is also an honest acceptance of the fact that the results of our action are not in our hands (Bhagavadgita). A doctor is handling a life in danger and he himself is a human being. Sometimes the stress of his job makes him seek some help from a higher invisible Being. Most doctors believe in God and prayer which shows that even a skillful person needs some emotional support when in crucial situations. A doctor is not supposed to condemn a patient to death. He has to try till the end although he knows it is futile. It is a doctor's dilemma which only another doctor can understand.



I would not call it weakness but an honest statement of the limitations of human effort.



It is easy to sit in a chair and theorize about the existence/non-existence of God when you know that there is no end result to such discussions. It is different when you have to perform under pressure and you know that it is a matter of life and death. It is finally in your hands and you cannot pass the buck. The crucial moment of truth is in front of you. Human beings have to manage their emotions as well.
Simha
2011-04-08 12:26:55 UTC
If you are determined not to believe GOD, why do you criticise Doctors as those with weakness. Doctors have their own Scientific reasons to recommend Prayers for cure, as they know, all similar operations do not give the same result. Same operation performed on two different patients with one surviving and the other succumbing to, gives credentials to Doctors recommendations for Prayer. You explain, Logically, as to why there should be two different results for such treatments, where the services and patient's conditions are one and the same. If not GOD, then who decides these results.
somadeva
2011-04-08 05:15:53 UTC
Believing in God is not a weakness. So they pray. And ask everyone to pray . Asking questions in a comfortable position is easy. But the situation is different in an operation theater. How the patient's body will react to the medicines and surgery can not be predicted. . They did everything possible.Yet they see the patient just 'slip' from their hands.
meena
2011-04-10 13:12:02 UTC
Doctors are also human beings like us. Their knowledge and skills are limited. But their knowledge of our physical body and its parts are more than normal human beings. They know that there is a Supreme Intelligence behind the design of our physical body. They know that there is a Super Power existing which has Created everything we know. So they say pray to God while treating their patients.
Madhukar
2011-04-08 05:23:15 UTC
I deleted my long explanation to replace it by to the point answer.

You have asked a question referring to my statement made in answer to your previous question. You should have given its link.

Neither was the original question asked to prove the existence of God nor did I mention at any stage that this is the proof for the existence of God.



Doctors asking the relatives to pray God were doing so not because they are weak but to indicate that medical profession has its limitations. They may fail despite their best efforts.



Your additional details criticising me are unwarranted. My reply to that is as under.



When you mentioned about your father's case, context could be different. I too had consulted a doctor for my father six months before he left us. That doctor had explained to me that he would not survive more than six months and that no hospital in the world can save him. I was not irritated.

The doctor who misbehaved was the one under whose care my father was undergoing treatment in the hospital. When he was feeling uncomfortable and I called the doctor, his duty was to attend to him and not run away saying that it is a gone case. He did not even check what the problem was. That was bad manners. What was I paying the hospital for? Why should they keep my father in the hospital then? and why should I be charged? As long as he is in the hospital and I am paying for his treatment, doctor has no business to refuse to attend to him. Without checking him, how did he conclude that he can do nothing and if he knew it beforehand, why did he not tell me so that I could have taken my father back home. Your criticism without knowing the details of the case were unjustified.



The same doctor used to make routine visits every day whether we want his help or not and keep adding a charge for the visit not asked for. If my father is in sleep, he used to shout loudly, "How are you now?" so that he wakes up and he can finish his visit as fast as possible. More such visits, more his income and that is the only thing that he was paying attention to.



What blind belief in my inner mind are you talking about? Who permitted you to make comments on my beliefs? Did I ask you any question? It is you who are asking questions and seeking answers. In what way am I concerned about how you bring up your children and what has it to do with me. Your question has indulged in ranting which is in violation of community guidelines of YA.



Edit:



Also, by saying that I have some blind beliefs, (which is the product of your fertile imagination), and that your children will not have that, you have implied a shortcoming in my upbringing and thus insulted my parents which is bad manners worse than the doctor's.
Radhakrishna( prrkrishna)
2011-04-08 04:52:52 UTC
Friend,



In this particular case, the Doctors said to PRAY .Those were the Devotees of Baba,They are all believing is Baba is GOD or an Incarnation of GOD.



So they not atheists.They are all firm believers waiting there without food and water and sleep (in some cases) to see that Baba comes out Healthy and Bless them.



Baba himself said in 2005 ( the video clipping is being shown several times a day) that He is not the BODY.



If the devotees wanted the BODY to be there, it is their Worship, Devotion and Bhati , alone that keep Body.Baba has said this and BABA`s BELIEVERS.



So there is Nothing wrong in doctors telling to PRAY TO BABA`S DEVOTEES.



Even the greatest Scientist Acknowledged GOD.



If you do not believe in GOD, why do you FEEL THAT NO ONE SHOULD BELIEVE?



It is Individual and purely PERSONAL THING TO BELIEVE IN GOD OR NOT.



Many millionaires DIED SO FAR.



THE TOP LEADERS , EMPERORS also passed away.



THEY HAD LOTS OF OXYGEN CYLINDERS AROUND THEM, LOTS OF LITRES OF THEIR GROUP BLOOD , SEVERAL TOP EXPERTS FOR EACH ORGAN IN BODY AND ALL THE MONEY AND FACILITIES.....STILL WITH ALL THE NECESSARY THINGS AVAILABLE ( EVERY SCIENTIFIC GADGET IN HOSPITAL) . IN SPITE OF EXPERTS TREATING THEM, WHY THOSE DIED?



THERE IS SOME FORCE BEYOND ALL THESE HUMAN POWERS AND SKILLS.



One day you too surely agree that there is one supernatural force .
2011-04-08 04:34:08 UTC
Well, what they are saying is that the patient might not have a very good chance of success. If a doctor told me that, I would ask for another doctor, one who could be honest with me.
?
2011-04-08 08:08:54 UTC
It is not the weakness of Doctors but shows their submission to the Almighty though they have talent &experience.There is no doubt that there is an invincible power that can not be won by an ordinary person with super intelligence &extraordinary brilliance.
?
2011-04-08 04:39:34 UTC
It's not. T_T The doctor is probably religious. But it does annoy me when people praise God instead of the doctors and medicine. If they hadn't gotten the help and the medication, they would still be in their most likely terrible state or dead. T_T
?
2011-04-08 04:33:36 UTC
Praying does not prove the existence of God. It proves the existence of religion.
Lalitha R
2011-04-08 17:13:58 UTC
We pray because it gives solace to the mind and kindles hope in us.Doctors and others tell us to pray because a troubled mind adds to the disease.
2011-04-08 11:39:39 UTC
No proof for god
deepak57
2011-04-08 10:56:12 UTC
In the matter of God, faith rules, not the qualifications.
eric
2011-04-08 04:36:51 UTC
A doctor can be a Christian you know? Example, Luke from the bible .
2011-04-08 04:53:38 UTC
That mean Front of God doctors and scientists are 'ZERO,'
?
2011-04-08 04:33:09 UTC
Sounds like you already know your answer.


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