Question:
Do you believe that God is God the Son, God the Holy Spirit and God the Father?
anonymous
2017-12-03 15:35:42 UTC
Is Jesus Jehovah?

Is Jehovah not God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit?

Does Jesus worship Jehovah as his God like the Jehovah's say? How can Jesus be Jehovah if he worships him as his God?

What do you believe?
Eighteen answers:
BJ
2017-12-03 20:01:40 UTC
Absolutely not.



consider what John writes in chapter 1, verse 18: No man has seen (Almighty) God at any time.

However, humans have seen Jesus, the Son, for John says: The Word (Jesus) was made flesh, and dwelt among us, and we beheld his glory. John 1:14, KJ



How, then, could the Son be part of Almighty God? John also states that the Word was with God.



But how can an individual be with someone and at the same time be that person?



Moreover, as recorded at John 17:3, Jesus makes a clear distinction between himself and his heavenly Father. He calls his Father the only true God.



And toward the end of his Gospel, John sums up matters by saying: These have been written down that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ the Son of God. John 20:31



Notice that Jesus is called, not God, but the Son of God.
rac
2017-12-04 21:31:10 UTC
We believe in God, the Eternal Father, and in His Son, Jesus Christ, and in the Holy Ghost. They are three separate and distinct individuals that work in concert with each other to bring to pass our salvation and exaltation. Jehovah of the Old Testament is the same as Jesus of the New Testament. He is both the Son of God the Father as well as being the God of this world because that was and is the assignment He received from the Father. He is God because the Father gave Him that position, or status. The Holy Ghost is also God because the Father gave Him that calling as well. You need to understand that God is a title for a calling, not a name of any particular individual. We call the Father God because we don't have any other name for Him. Jesus/Jehovah, still obeys the Father in all things. He made that clear in the New Testament when we taught many times that He only did what the Father instructed Him to do. He carried out the Father's will in all things. The Holy Ghost is the comforter and revelator, to testify of the other two and to carry out their directions relevant to our needs. He testifies of the Father and the Son by spiritual communication to our own spirits so that we can know by inner peace and comfort that all we have been taught is true.
anonymous
2017-12-04 16:19:42 UTC
I believe it is going to be tough enough just to be a good boy till I go to bed tonight!

It would be nice if all it took to be a Christian was understanding this.

It is said "He (Jesus) counted equality with God a thing which could not be grasped"

If Jesus could not explain it, I can't either and it doesn't bother me a bit to admit that.

All the Father expects out of any one of us is to be the best (most noble) person we can be given the circumstance!
anonymous
2017-12-04 11:46:58 UTC
Jesus Christ does not lie. Jesus himself said at Mark 12:29,30 that God is One (NOT three). He also said that God was his God. Jesus commanded all Christians to worship his God, Jehovah, as the first and greatest commandment:



Mark 12:29.30:

"Jesus answered: “The first is, ‘Hear, O Israel, Jehovah our God is one Jehovah, 30 and you must love Jehovah your God with your whole heart and with your whole soul and with your whole mind and with your whole strength.’"



The Trinity is not a Christian concept. It's not biblical. It comes from Paganism.
Bobby Jim
2017-12-04 02:16:54 UTC
Try these two passages: Deuteronomy 6:4,5 and Matthew 22:37. Then consider that WE are made in God's image, and then your own conclusion. Mind, Body, and Spirit, we reflect our Creator.
anonymous
2017-12-03 17:24:14 UTC
I don't know how many times that I have to explain this before it sinks into people's sticks heads the Bible makes it very very clear if somebody would only read it and God created Man In His Image male and female did he create them that means that God has a equivalent of a female there is God the Father his name is Jehovah there is Jesus Christ the son of Jehovah God Jesus Christ is not Jehovah God he is the son of Jehovah God the Holy Spirit is the only one left if Jesus is the Son and Jehovah is Daddy then the Holy Spirit must be Mommy! God's not a mysterious Trinity like total freaking idiots try to teach God is a family just like you have a family like a normal person a man gets married to a wife and has a child that's why God created you like this so you could understand what he operates under
Tommiecat
2017-12-03 16:46:29 UTC
First of all it’s not proper to use God’s name. Jesus never did it. Jews never do it. Jesus said to use his name.



“If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it.”

‭‭John‬ ‭14:14‬ ‭KJV‬‬



Jesus is God.
Terry
2017-12-03 16:35:05 UTC
The bible does not support the Trinity.



The New Catholic Encyclopedia states: “The formulation ‘one God in three Persons’ was not solidly established, certainly not fully assimilated into Christian life and its profession of faith, prior to the end of the 4th century. But it is precisely this formulation that has first claim to the title the Trinitarian dogma. Among the Apostolic Fathers, there had been nothing even remotely approaching such a mentality or perspective.”—(1967), Vol. XIV, p. 299.



The New Encyclopædia Britannica says: “Neither the word Trinity, nor the explicit doctrine as such, appears in the New Testament, nor did Jesus and his followers intend to contradict the Shema in the Old Testament: ‘Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God is one Lord’ (Deut. 6:4). . . . The doctrine developed gradually over several centuries and through many controversies. . . . By the end of the 4th century . . . the doctrine of the Trinity took substantially the form it has maintained ever since.”—(1976), Micropædia, Vol. X, p. 126.





For many thousands of years Gods own people did not worship a Trinity, in fact they taught the following,.....”hear, O Israel: Jehovah our God is one Jehovah:” Deuteronomy 6:4 NAV



The Jews were very different from the surrounding nations who DID worship a triad of Gods, such as the Babylonians and the Egyptians who were well know for it, however Gods people were different as they were monotheistic and were not influenced by the pagans triad worshipping. This is one of the reason why Israel were warned about affiliating with the surrounding nations, so that they did not end up worshipping their false Gods!



Jesus backed up that belief when in prayer to his heavenly father said,...”"This is eternal life, that they should know you, the only true God, and him whom you sent, Jesus Christ. John 17: 3. Notice how he calls his father the ONLY TRUE GOD!



The first century Christians taught the same when they preached for example 1 Cor 15: 24-28 where we see in Vs 24 that Jesus has a GOD AND FATHER and that in Vs 28 he SUBJECTS himself to his God & Father!



Unfortunately the Christian congregation by the forth century had given in to the surrounding nations triad form of worship, this was the great Apostasy that Paul had foretold would set in after he was gone, and the Trinity doctrine was then born there in Constantinople in the 4th century. This was contrary to what the first century Christians taught !
?
2017-12-03 15:45:02 UTC
No
anonymous
2017-12-03 15:42:23 UTC
The facts clearly show that all gods are myths.
robin_lionheart
2017-12-06 07:46:08 UTC
No.
Special EPhex
2017-12-04 10:23:56 UTC
Yes. If I am to accept God as omnipresent, then I must accept God as 'Maker', 'Made' and 'Making', which are fundamental to existence. God exists as The Trinity in the same way 'H2O' is still water, whether in the form of liquid, solid or vapor. The triune forms of Divinity represent the core aspects of the same 'Supreme Infinite Godhead'. Because man is often misled and confused by how we perceive form, people assume "different" means to imply "separate".



How is it possible to be "separate" and "apart" from an omnipresent God, expressed as 'everything', 'everywhere' at 'all times'? Hence, Jesus remarks, in John 10:30, "I and the Father are one". In John 14:11, Christ tells His follower, "Believe that I am in the Father and that the Father is in me, or at least believe in the works I am doing. Here Jesus acknowledges 'Maker, Made and Making', and offers three option is which tp place our faith, as if it makes no difference which is chosen.



Unaided, the mind and it's perception cannot distinguish "appearance" from 'essence'. The world of form is a "fancy distraction" to perception, that is transient and always subject to change. The world of form is expressed as "variety" and "diversity" which is suitable for the capacity to 'choose', hence 'freewill'. An 'Unlimited God' cannot be confined by the boundaries of a "this and that", "here and there", "now and then", and is universally found in all.



Although, it is a fact that Jesus inferred, on multiple occasions, that He is 'God Incarnate', it would be a fallacy for Him to say "I am God". God does not directly address Himself as 'Divinity', because it would imply "ego", which God/Christ are without. When Moses asked, "Who shall I tell them sent me?", God could had respond with anything, as He pleased. Yet He did not respond, "It is I...God!", but replied instead, "I am that which I am" (some interpret, "I shall be what I shall be").



God came as Christ to make the New Covenant with mankind, because how man often depicts God as "elsewhere", as in the Old Testament. Jesus did not come with the intent to challenge and contest the traditional orthodoxy of His time, only to "correct the record". The God Christ spoke of in the New Testament is described not only as a 'Transcendent Awareness', but an 'Immanent' one as well, confirming God's Divine Attribute of omnipresence. "The Kingdom of Heaven is within you."



Christ could not deny Himself as the Son of God, and taught that we are all God's children. Becoming manifest is the flesh is God's Way ('The Son') of relating to man, so that we may have 'faith' in Him. God does not interfere with our freewill to choose for ourselves without our consent, and cannot force us to see in the Way He does. All throughout the Bible, Jesus is telling us that the same 'Divine Essence' we recognize dwelling in Him, dwells in us all, thus God is always, 'there'.



(John 14:12) "Truly, I tell you, for whomever believe in Me will go on to do works greater than the one's I am doing, because I am going to the Father." In John 14, Jesus is explain to His disciples that they are too reliant on the "appearance" of form, and that His departure will be "superficial" only, and that His 'Essence' lives on within those who believe in Him as well as in the Father. Although, they accepted the 'Father' as God of Jesus, and Him the 'Son', their faith was still lacking within themselves.



Jesus did not teach to look for God outside of ourselves, initially, understanding the limitations in our observation of form, yet taught to believe in Him, Who will not lead us astray, if we must "rely on form". At times the disciples showed timidity in their faith, for instance, when Jesus invited them onto the water He stood upon, as if it were possible for The Lord to deceive them. As spiritually advanced as they were, they did not recognize the 'Father and Son' as the distinction between 'God Transcendent' and 'God Immanent'.
Funnelweb
2017-12-03 19:33:33 UTC
In answer to your questions:



1) Yes. I believe God is Father, Son and Holy Spirit, three Persons in One God.



2) No, I'm not convinced that "Jehovah" is the proper rendition of the Tetragrammaton. Nobody is "Jehovah" because it isn't a correct rendition of the Divine Name. But Jesus is the "YHWH" of the Old Testament, as is the Father and the Holy Spirit. All three and each one of them can be referred to by the Divine Name.



3) Already answered in 2) above.



4) "Does Jesus worship Jehovah as his God?" NO. There isn't any incidence of Jesus worshipping the Father. He prayed to the Father, but not in worship. The persons of the Trinity talk to each other, and when Jesus was incarnate as a human being we caught a glimpse of that process because the Son talked to the Father in prayer.

However Jesus received worship, as is recorded several times in the gospels.



5) "How can Jesus be Jehovah if he worships him as his God?" Not necessary to answer, Jesus doesn't worship, He receives worship.



6) "What do you believe?" Already answered above.
?
2017-12-03 16:38:05 UTC
No. Jesus claimed to be the Son of God, not Almighty God. If Jesus were God, to whom was he praying while here on earth? (Matthew 14:23; 26:26-29) Surely Jesus was not just pretending to talk to someone else!



Even after his death and resurrection, Jesus is described in the Bible as being subordinate to God. The apostle Paul reminds us that “God is supreme over Christ.” (1 Corinthians 11:3) The Bible says that in the future “when all things have been placed under Christ’s rule, then he himself, the Son, will place himself under God, who placed all things under him; and God will rule completely over all.”—1 Corinthians 15:28



Clearly, Jesus is not God Almighty. That is why he spoke of his Father as “my God.”—Revelation 3:2, 12; 2 Corinthians 1:3, 4
?
2017-12-03 16:32:00 UTC
1) Do you believe that God is God the Son, God the Holy Spirit and God the Father?



Yes.

More precisely: that God is the eternal union of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit.





2) Is Jesus Jehovah?



One name of God is "Jehovah".

We can more accurately describe "Jehovah" as "the tetragrammaton".

The Bible identifies Jesus using the tetragrammaton.

- Heb 1 teaches that vv 10-12 describe Jesus

- vv 10-12 include a quote from Psalm 102

- Psalm 102:22-27 identifies the being described in that same passage as both "God" and the tetragrammaton (i.e. "Jehovah")



But please realize that Jesus is not ALONE "Jehovah". "Jehovah" is (one) name of the united God. SO:

- "Jehovah" is the name of the united God and can be applied to all three Divine Persons (and in the Bible is applied to two of the Divine Persons)

- while "Jesus" is the name of the Son in particular (applied only to one Divine Person)





3) Is Jehovah not God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit?



Answered.





4) Does Jesus worship Jehovah as his God like the Jehovah's say?



A - the Bible does not record Jesus worshiping anyone or anything

B - the Bible DOES record Jesus identifying the Father as his God (in more than one passage)

C - the Bible does NOT record Jesus identifying "Jehovah" as his God





5) How can Jesus be Jehovah if he worships him as his God?



The Bible teaches that Jesus is "Jehovah".

The Bible does NOT teach that Jesus worships "Jehovah" or anyone else.





6) What do you believe?



I believe what the Bible teaches

rather than what some people **inaccurately claim** the Bible teaches.
ChefTRD
2017-12-03 16:12:05 UTC
If Jesus is the Holy Ghost, then how is this possible:



Luke 12:10 And whosoever shall speak a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but unto him that blasphemeth against the Holy Ghost it shall not be forgiven.
anonymous
2017-12-03 16:00:13 UTC
GOD worships Himself through ALL of His Creation, which from His perspective means maintaining His own rightful place as its Source, its Protector and its Sustainer.



Is Jesus Christ 'Jehovah?'



'I have sworn by Myself,

The word has gone forth from My mouth in righteousness

And will not turn back,

That to Me every knee will bow, every tongue will swear allegiance.



They will say of Me, ‘Only in Jehovah are righteousness and strength.’ (Isaiah 45:23-24).



'Have this attitude in yourselves which was also in Christ Jesus, who, although He existed in the form of God, did not regard equality with God a thing to be grasped, emptied Himself, taking the form of a bond-servant, and being made in the likeness of men. Being found in appearance as a man, He humbled Himself by becoming obedient to the point of death, even death on a cross. For this reason also, God highly exalted Him, and bestowed on Him the name which is above every name, so that at the name of Jesus EVERY KNEE WILL BOW, of those who are in heaven and on earth and under the earth, and that every tongue will confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.' (Philippians 2:5-11).



'Jesus' and 'Jehovah' are the same divine 'Person.'



While GOD is presenting Himself as GOD the Son He 'submits' in exactly the same way to GOD the Father that the wife is commanded to 'submit' to her husband, even though they are 'one new creature' and are perfect equals, (Mark 10:8, 1 Corinthians 11:3, 1 Corinthians 7:4). This submission is an attitude required for equality, not a state of inequality.



If you believe that Jesus and God the Father are not equals, then, by implication, scripture teaches that men are 'superior' to women. That doesn't fit with the rest of scripture which declares all members of Christ's body to be 'one' and which commands us to see all others as our superiors, (in attitude as Christ does before His Father), even while treating them as perfect equals, (Philippians 2:3).



Clearly, that interpretation is the more scriptural one:



'For all of you who were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ. There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free man, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus. And if you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham’s descendants, heirs according to promise.' (Galatians 3:27-29).
?
2017-12-03 15:44:29 UTC
I believe that you have no idea what your talking about !!


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