Question:
How many christians are aware "Xmas" is a christian term (Not a non religious thing)?
?
2013-12-02 19:00:07 UTC
I'm an atheist but don't try to pin "Xmas" on me.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xmas
Twelve answers:
?
2013-12-02 22:38:47 UTC
The X is for Nimrod, because that is where it came from originally. 25th Dec has always been the birth of nimrod. Check it out for yourselves. Y'shua never came at XMAS He came at Sukkot for He came & dwelt among us.

Luke 2:7 And she brought forth her firstborn Son & wrapped Him in swaddling cloths & laid Him in a manger(read feeding trough) because there was no room for them at the inn.

It was not a cave that Y'shua was born in but a Sukka.(A tent)
Nous
2013-12-03 08:27:13 UTC
The popular abbreviation 'Xmas' isn't merely popular because it's quicker to type on a mobile phone. 'X' is the first letter of the Greek word for Christ - Xristos - so the shortened spelling of Christmas has been around for hundreds of years.



Christmas is nothing to do with either Christianity or Islam but it does have it's origins in the midwinter festival and many other basically pagan rites but since much of it is a celebration of nature rather than religion everyone should be able to enjoy it and be happy together despite religion!



The ancient European pagans celebrated the midwinter festival and a number of other festivals long before Christianity ever existed!



Babylonians celebrated the feast of the Son of Isis with gluttonous eating and drinking, and gift giving and the goddess of fertility, love, and war.



The Romans held a festival on 25 December called “Dies Natalis Solis Invicti, celebrating their own god Sol Invictas – PAGAN!



The Persian god Mithras, the Syrian sun god Elah Gabal, the German Sol, the Greek Helios and the Mesopotamian Shamash. But also Saturnalia, honouring Saturn, the God of Agriculture. The law courts and schools were closed. No public business could be transacted an this is where the holidays originated - ALL PAGAN!



Wax tapers were given by the more humble to their superiors. The origin of the Christmas candle - PAGAN!



In Rome groups of costumed went from house to house entertaining their people. And this was where the carolling Christmas tradition originated PAGAN!



Statues of the Mother and lover or Mother and son were paraded through the streets not only in Italy but also in Africa, Spain, Portugal, France, Germany and Bulgaria. Thus, the symbolism of the Heavenly Virgin and the infant child paraded on a yearly basis are not of Christian origin. They stem from the Mother-goddess religion, which is very ancient ENTIRELY PAGAN!



Scandinavian countries celebrated Yule honouring Thor – PAGAN!



In Germania (not Germany) they celebrated midwinter night followed by 12 wild nights of eating and drinking. The 12 days of Christmas PAGAN!



The church under Pope Julius I declared that Christ’s birth would be celebrated on December 25 in 350 AD in order to try to hijack the PAGAN festivals but it was largely ignored. Christians did not really celebrate Christmas until 378 but it was then dropped in 381 and not resurrected until 400.



The Christmas tree stems from pagan tradition and ritual surrounding the Winter Solstice, which included the use of holly boughs ivy and other foliage as an adaptation of pagan tree worship. Holly and ivy represented male and female. Mistletoe was considered a sacred plant, and the custom of kissing under the mistletoe began as a fertility ritual - all PAGAN!



Santa Claus came from the Dutch “Sinterklaas” and was a tall figure riding a white horse through the air and usually accompanied by Black Peter, an elf who punished disobedient children. Also the origin of the reindeer, sleigh and the elves ALL PAGAN!



The modern red coated Santa was brought about by coca cola!



AMERICA ACTUALLY BANNED CHRISTMAS several times and is the originator of the expression “Happy Holidays” which came about because of the pagan origins of Christmas to include all religions and traditions!



The Venerable Bede, an early Christian writer pointed out that the Christian church absorbed Pagan practices when it found the population unwilling to give up the festivals. Thus a lot of what Christians now see as Christians practices are in fact pagan!



Christmas is the time of year christians strive to prove just how pagan they have become
tentofield
2013-12-02 19:06:56 UTC
The X in Xmas is not an X but the Greek letter Chi which is the first letter of the Greek word Χριστός or Christos meaning "the anointed" or "Christ". The abbreviation has been around for a long time.



There is a common Christian symbol

http://blog.kaufersonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/chi_rho.jpg

This is the chi rho symbol, a combination of the first two letters of Χριστός
2013-12-02 19:03:25 UTC
Yes, although that may have come as a surprise to you, I think just about everyone over the age of 13 (thus legally posting here) is aware that Christmas is the celebration of the birth of Christ.



Edit: Oh, what, your talking about the chi (X)? ok. Some are, some aren't but Christians don't use it as an attempt to be derogatory.
Atarah Derek
2013-12-02 19:04:01 UTC
I am. And if you want to get REALLY technical, it is NOT pronounced "Ex-mas." It is pronounced "KAI-mas." The X is the Greek letter Chi, and is frequently used as an initial for Christ. Hence its presence in the Ichthus (http://www.gospelgifs.com/art_pages_01/images/ichthus-02.gif ).



@ Scrubbag: I'll see your legalism and raise you a fish. Take another look at the image I linked and try to tell me they're trying to keep Christ out of it.



Edit: Do what you want, but personally I find ΙChristΘΥΣ to be a bit of a mouthful. If I can use ΙΧΘΥΣ I can use "Xmas." What have you got against the Greek alphabet, anyway?



Edit II: People use initials all the time. Are you telling me SB is not a suitable set of initials for your user name? X is the initial for Christ. IX is the initials for Jesus Christ. The ChiRho, or XP, is also commonly used as shorthand for Christ.



My initials are RW. If someone wrote a note to me using my initials in place of my full name, I would find it perfectly acceptable. I frequently use my initials to mark things that belong to me. But according to your line of thinking, I have to spell out my full name in order to truly claim something of mine. My initials aren't enough for you, apparently. So if I write my initials on the lid of my Dr. Pepper, you think you have a right to drink from it just because in your opinion I haven't claimed it as my own since I have not actually put my name on it? You must be a very socially isolated person if you can't even figure out basic rules of etiquette.



You probably have zero problem with people shortening Jesus Christ to JC in a quick note. Explain to me in minute detail how using the Greek equivalent of IX is ANY different.



Or, if your problem with it is that it's not Greek ENOUGH, just call it Xpmas. Or would it be XPmas? Not really clear on that, actually. Kinda funny how Greek's Rho ended up our P, anyway.
?
2013-12-02 19:01:46 UTC
Yes
?
2013-12-02 19:02:12 UTC
Yes, X (chi) is the first letter of Christos in Greek...
scrubbag
2013-12-02 19:03:09 UTC
Religious term or not, it is still leaving Christ out of Christmas, and so should NOT be used at all, by Christians.



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@atarah I did NOT say anyone was not using the word " Xmas , I said Christians should NOT use it.



I personally do NOT use the word "Xmas" because I honor and respect Christ, and so the word "Christmas" to me, is useless without the word " Christ."



Some people, including me, will say "turkey day" for Thanksgiving Day" but that then removes the true meaning of Thanksgiving. I am guilty of doing this. But that is just Thanksgiving. Christmas is another thing. I REFUSE to leave the Word "Christ" out of "Christmas", because that then leaves, "mas".



To me, that is like leaving "apple" out of "apple pie".

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I have nothing against the Greek Alphabet, nor any alphabet for that matter, but leaving the word Christ out of Christmas, just is leaving the person out of it. It is after all, Christ's Birthday, not X's birthday. I would not like it is someone celebrated my birthday by using X instead of my Name.

"Oh, it is "x's birthday to day, Happy birthday, X"



Besides, "X" means Has been. such as, "My X left me."



I sure hope Christ, " X " does not leave me.



If you like saying Xmas, go ahead. Leave Christ out of it. After all, it is only a Holiday, anymore.

Many people see it as just another day, to spend money. Holiday, not Christmas.

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I suppose we could call Jesus Christ JC, (again, disrespect) and then just use the C for Cmas, instead of Christmas. Merry Cmas, all of you.



It has lost its meaning, that is all I am saying. I was raised with Christmas being Christmas, but now people want to change Christmas to Holiday and Christmas to Xmas.



And the real meaning is lost, Poor JC died on the cross for us, and we repay him by celebrating his birthday, as Cmas, or as many want to say it, Xmas.



So be it. However, I will continue to honor Jesus with his right for his birthday to be Christ Mass, as Christmas, being He is Jesus the Christ, and not Jesus the X. Christ is NOT a last name, but his being as a divinity. And I find it rude of people to simply shorten his day, because they find it hard to say.



So far Christ had been eliminated from Christmas, and soon, from the hearts of all, and Christmas, or Xmas, will cease to exist, also. Already, it is called Holiday, instead of Christmas.
Secret Sauce
2013-12-02 19:03:13 UTC
its a pagan festival from babylon and nothing to do with the jewish messiah, neither is christianity which twists scripture to try to excuse themselves from following him.
Ranchmom1
2013-12-02 19:16:19 UTC
Yep.
?
2013-12-02 19:10:16 UTC
"X" represents the Greek letter "Chi" (not a cross), and is short for "Christ".
?
2013-12-02 19:07:45 UTC
ok..?


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