A QUESTION FOR SEVENTH DAY ADVENTISTS?

Question

Hi, I have just joined a SDA church but I'm confused about hell. I understand that the immortal soul is not talked about in the Bible, and if we do have an immortal soul then what about Adam and Eve? Also the Bible teaches about the dead in Christ rising first when Jesus returns and that those who are in their graves will hear His voice. If we go straight to heaven or hell when we die then how can we be in two places at once? I guess some Christians will be scoffing at this and will tell me that hell is real blah blah blah, but this is my question:

Do you know any books or websites where I can read about people who have died and come back to life and do not report any NDE? This is why I'm confused. I think there have been some people who have died or come close to death and they don't report anything. But yet other people have come back to life and say how they went down into hell and felt the heat and people screaming etc.

Some of these people sound very truthful and honest and seem very sure that they had a real experience in hell and that they are now a Christian. But what about these people who have claimed to have come back to life and don't report anything? I'm so confused. Is there any books or websites where I can read about people who have come back to life and not reported anything?

God bless

Answer 1

Hi, I joined the SDA church since 2006, and I was confused as you are now in the beginning.



Finally I imitated the Bereans and I understood both sunday keeper churches and SDA churches are wrong about the soul and many other things. No, the soul is not immortal, only God is immortal and only God is source of immortality.

No, the spirit is not an impersonal " breathe of life ".



No, Ellen White was not a true prophetess and she was a liar and a false prophetess. I did many researches about her and I discovered she was a satanist freemason who proudly wrote "The man Christ Jesus was not the Lord God Almighty" (Letter 32, 1899, quoted in the Seventh-day Adventist Bible Commentary, vol. 5, p. 1129).

and I discovered she even defended Satan and accused God by saying Satan repented of his rebellion and God would have refused to forgive him:



"After Satan was shut out of heaven, with those who fell with him, he realized that he lost all the purity and glory of heaven forever. Then he repented and wished to be reinstated in heaven. He was willing to take his proper place, or any place that might be assigned him. ... He and his follower repented, wept and implored to be taken back into the favor of God. But no, their sin their hate, their envy and jealousy, had been so great that God could not blot it out. It must remain to receive its final punishment" (Spiritual Gifts, vol. 1, p. 18, 19).



Ellen White put a satanic and freemason pillar on her tomb, and she clearly proved by her heretical writings she was an advocate of the devil. God will punish her in proper time, for millions of people are suffering venomous lies and confusion because of her now.



My best advice: keep going to be a member of the SDA Church until a Better Church is created and rely on God's Word only and flee from all man made doctrines, which come from the devil. If you rely on God's Word only, you will keep your mind and soul free from any kind of venomous lies and confusion. We live in a time of universal deceit. Be like the Bereans and always verify if anything you hear from anyone is true, including what you hear from me:



Acts 17:11



" 11Now the Bereans were of more noble character than the Thessalonians, for they received the message with great eagerness and examined the Scriptures every day to see if what Paul said was true. "

Answer 2

Hi GodLovesYou, praise the Lord I'm excited that you are attending a SDA church! The Pastor should also be able to provide you materials or Bible studies regarding these important questions but I'll give a brief answer to hopefully help.



@LottaLou and regarding NDE: "He (Ian McGormack) died and first went to a dark place with an evil presence who said he deserved to be there."



The Bible says...

For the living know that they will die;

But the dead know nothing,

And they have no more reward,

For the memory of them is forgotten.

Also their love, their hatred, and their envy have now perished;

Nevermore will they have a share

In anything done under the sun.

Whatever your hand finds to do, do it with your might; for there is no work or device or knowledge or wisdom in the grave where you are going. ~ Ecclesiastes 9:5-6, 10



Notice the dead know nothing. Nevermore will they have a share in anything done under the sun. Therefore Ian's vision is false.



"Do you know any books or websites where I can read about people who have died and come back to life and do not report any NDE?"



Yes, everyone who came back from death in the Bible never said they saw heaven or hell.



There is no mention of Lazarus or anyone saying "Thank you Lord, i was in hell, or Lord why did you bring me from heaven?"



Great Bible studies to help...



Is the Devil in charge of hell?

http://www.amazingfacts.org/FreeStuff/BibleStudies/StudyGuides/tabid/105/ctl/ViewMedia/mid/453/IID/2-11/LNG/en/SC/R/Default.aspx?7=Is-The-Devil-In-Charge-Of-Hell?



Are the dead really dead?

http://www.amazingfacts.org/FreeStuff/BibleStudies/StudyGuides/tabid/105/ctl/ViewMedia/mid/453/IID/2-10/LNG/en/SC/R/Default.aspx?7=Are-The-Dead-Really-Dead?



Hope that helps!

Answer 3

Do you believe the Bible to be God's word?



If it is, it contains all that you need, and you need no man to tell you or teach you.



If only you would read the Bible and allow God to show you, instead of running to men and churches and being taught by them.



How can you hear God while you fill your head with what men say and teach?



Then whatever faith you have will be in men.



That is why you are in such confusion.



It was your choice.

Answer 4

My Sister in Christ and who is the one who brought me to the Church that I was healed in, had since then, joint the 7DA Church.



And her husband didn't like the concept of hell. So they don't believe there is a hell. They don't believe that we go to heaven when we die. That our body & soul just go down under to wait.





But this is a deception. Because Jesus said that to see & to enter the Kingdom of God, we need to be born of the Spirit. So when we are born of God, born a spiritual-soul child of God, then we can sense the love of God in praise & worship. We can sense faith, hope & love. So this is a taste of what heaven is like.

Also, when we judge others self righteously, or don't forgive others... we suffered today, hell. So these are the opposite of the sense of faith, hope & love.



Since I have had a breakdown, and I have also been healed, I have sensed hell fire, and I have sensed heaven. When we are worshiping in spirit & truth our God; then this is heaven. And to magnify these feelings of faith hope & love is our spiritual soul in heaven with Jesus.



And people have had out of body experiences. So also St.Paul wrote about it. Where he didn't know if it was in the body or not. But such lovely indescribable things happened that were not permitted to tell...



So also, I have prayed for my Big Sister and Mentor during a difficult time in my life. And Jesus told me that when she is before Him, He will ask her why she thought she would just go down under when she died. And she will be so sorry she doubted Him.





Also, Ian McGormack experienced a glimpse of heaven... He became a reborn Christian on his death bed. He saw a vision of his mother praying for him, and to pray the Lord's prayer that he couldn't remember. Then the words were before him to pray. And he forgave those others... He became a reborn Christian.

He died and first went to a dark place with an evil presence who said he deserved to be there. But then he was caught up to the Light of Christ. And there Jesus told him he was a reborn Christian and showed him a glimpse of heaven. Then told him he could go there or go back. He thought there no one who cared about him, so did not want to go back. But when he looked back, he saw his mother. So he did go back and in the hospital, God further healed him. He went to his mother and she was praying for him when he had the vision of her.

I watched the video and his visions and what he learned in such a short time, was what the Lord has been showing me for years.

So I know that our spiritual-soul either goes up to be with the Lord. Or our soul goes down under to a place of rest or hell.



Hell was prepared for the devil & his messengers. Those who reject Jesus and become the devils messengers, go to hell.



My friend is a spiritual-soul, so she will go up to be with the Lord when she dies. But right now, she is even denying the rapture. So she may not be part of that. Since 7DA don't believe Jesus is going to catch us up to be with Him forever before the Great Tribulation.

In 2Thes2:7 For the myster of iniquity (lawlessness) does already work: only He (Holy Spirit & spirit sealed & filled Saints) Who now lets/restrains... will let/restrain, until He is taken out of the way. (I believe this is the rapture.)

8 And then shall that wicked be revealed, Whom the LORD shall consume with the Spirit of His Mouth, and shall destroy with the Brightness of His coming.

Answer 5

Your best web site is the Bible itself.