Question:
Have the historical figures of Joseph and Moses been uncovered.?
seeker of wisdom and truth
2010-09-08 07:34:32 UTC
If they ever existed surely these major biblical players must figure somewhere in Egyptian history but they have remained an enigma, that is until now.

The renowned egyptologist and linguist Ahmed Osman has made an in depth study marrying Egyptian history with the biblical accounts and has identified Joseph with Yuya the Vizier to Thutmose 1V, and Moses as his grandson the Pharaoh Akhenaten son of Amenhotep lll and wife Tiye, daughter of Yuya.
It transpires that the alternative Jewish Reckoning is more accurate than the Standard Chronology making the descent into Egypt not in the 18th century but the 15th century.
Akhenaten, the deposed Pharaoh was the first monotheist in history worshipping the Egyptian sun god Aten and it is interesting to note that the biblical godhead Adonai translates from ancient hebrew into egyptian as THE ATEN.

As for the name Moses is almost certainly the Egyptian for son Mos, rather than the loose connection with the Hebrew "drawn forth".

There is also Akhenaten's Hymn to the Aten often referred to because of it's great similarity to Psalm 104.

This would make the time of the exodus in the very short reign of Ramses l, certainly a pharaoh who knew not Joseph

The supposed plagues can also fit into this timescale with the massive volcanic eruption of Thera being around this time.

I know this may upset many traditionalists but these arguments must be taken seriously as they are based mainly on historical events rather than just religious mythology
Seven answers:
QUEST?
2010-09-08 07:44:51 UTC
you may well be correct but religious people who are committed to their ideology will simply refuse to accept your reasoning.Christianity is just a synthesis of the existing religions in the Roman Empire during the first century.
MythBuster
2010-09-09 11:12:17 UTC
I am sure you are aware that it was common practice for Egyptian to destroy all reference to unpopular individuals? Moses certainly wouldn't have cropped up anywhere after what happened



As for Joseph, the fact that no evidence has been found to date does not indicate he didn't exist. Historians have made that mistake before when they have claimed scriptural places and people didn't exist, then the evidence was discovered



The facts remain that the academic you refer to is simply making assumptions that have no real evidence. The Biblical account was written nearer the actual events so that alone would make me more ready to believe that account
2010-09-08 14:53:16 UTC
They're speculation that might have some basis in fact, but far from established fact.

The vast majority of historians -- non-religious, christian, islamic, and jewish -- all agree that based on the evidence, there was never any Hebrew captivity in Egypt nor any "exodus." The Hyksos invasion and rule of Egypt, then their expulsion and probable migration into Canaan, seems the most likely candidate for the "exodus" myth and the figures of bible Joseph and Moses.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyksos



Peace.
?
2010-09-08 14:37:45 UTC
Moses was not the grandson of Joseph. He lived 100's of years after Joseph.
Bolide ⌡shinning bacon of hope...⌠
2010-09-08 14:49:18 UTC
It would appear as if Osman is mostly renowned for none of his work passing peer review.
openroad
2010-09-08 14:37:38 UTC
no...and this does NOT look like a rant to me
2010-09-08 14:35:55 UTC
we already know they were real....if you want myths then go there...this is relig...and this rant is too long


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