Question:
What is the distinction between guilt and shame?
flannelpajamas1
2007-07-28 12:19:20 UTC
Is Guilt the judgement we pass on ourselves? Is it also that voice inside our head telling us that we did somthing wrong? Is Shame the sense of being judged by someone else? And is anyone supposed to judge you but God? An how can a person without a consciece do terrible thing and not feel guilty?
Twelve answers:
jack-copeland@sbcglobal.net
2007-07-28 18:12:38 UTC
Guilt is the feeling of doing something wrong, and knowing it is wrong. Shame is a feeling associated with guilt with certain wrong doings. For example, if I break the speed limit, I am guilty of breaking the law. Most people would not be shameful of this act.



If I was speeding, ran a red light, t-boned a car, and killed the occupants, not only am I guilty of breaking the law, but I committed a shameful act.



Some people do not feel shame. They know they are guilty. We know what is right or wrong. But, not everyone is shameful of their actions.



We can use righteous judgment against people breaking laws (both spiritual or temporal). We have no right to pass execution of judgment. This is why blowing up abortion clinics are so grievious. The person does not have the authority to pass sentence on another human.
solarius
2007-07-28 19:26:17 UTC
I can only answer this on a personal level. I feel that shame is much stronger than guilt. I can feel guilt on a number of different levels, even for something as small as eating junk food when I know I should've had something better, or telling a little white lie. It's also connected to others' beliefs of what I should do (for instance, my mother very much believed in guilt as a motivator). When I feel true shame, though, it's extremely intense. I know full well that I've done wrong, and am genuinely embarrassed. I feel sick inside about what I've done. It's a horrible feeling. In such a case, the judgment from myself is far worse than that of other people. Other people may look at me askance or talk behind my back, but I have to live with the shame I've brought upon myself.
♥ Rachel ♥
2007-07-28 19:25:30 UTC
that that guilt is not sufficient to motivate a person to change his moral character; only shame can spur a person to rebuild the self or the environment in which he has to live. Williams identifies guilt with actions, and shame with self. I feel guilty about something I have done – it is associated not with my overall sense of being or sense of myself, but something which I have done, which may be an isolated incident. Shame, on the other hand, calls into question the very essence of self.



I attended a conference in which Professor Michael Stocker suggested that most of the time if we experience guilt we should experience shame; otherwise, the guilt is mistaken, misplaced or pathological. It didn’t take me long to think of instances in which that simply isn’t the case, and then I had to understand why such instances of guilt do not involve shame nor should they. It has to do with identification of the moral self and the values toward which the moral self strives and whether or not the incident in question involves those sacred values.



For example: I have a conversation with a friend who is speaking poorly of a mutual friend. After the conversation she asks me not to tell the third party what she’s said. However, I feel very strongly that the third party should know what was said, and so I betray a trust and tell her.
anonymous
2007-07-28 20:21:46 UTC
Guilt is feeling bad about something you did. Shame is feeling bad about who you are as a person.



Feeling guilt is an indicator that one has acted against ones morals. But sometimes its ones morals that need to change.



When you feel shame after being judged by someone else you are attaching that judgement to your identity as a person rather than to the action that illicited the judgement. Its the belief that 'I am a bad person" that is being triggered and reinforced. It takes insight and practice to challenge this belief.
suzi q
2007-07-28 21:50:51 UTC
To me shame is more like embarrassment and guilt is more like blame. Guilt is sometimes well placed but both can be pathetic tricks the devil uses to separate us from God. There's just been one time when we met with someone in the presence of our pastor to speak about an issue. The pastor didn't judge either but expected that person to face the responsibility he had to us. The pastor also said judge not that ye be not judged. We were glad to be able to resolve that issue in the Biblical order.
Michael B - Prop. 8 Repealed!
2007-07-29 11:03:09 UTC
I think shame comes from guilt. Guilt is the feeling we have after we did something wrong and we know we did something wrong--it comes from our conscience. This can lead to shame which is more of an embarrassment for what we did.



A person can do a terrible thing and not feel guilty, because he/she either has no conscience or ignores his/her conscience or the person can justify the act and alleve his/her conscience
Jewel
2007-07-28 19:29:24 UTC
Guilt is the knowledge that we have done something bad. It is an internal judgment.



Shame is the belief that we are bad people. It is an external label.



It is possible to feel guilt without shame, but not shame without guilt. Someone literally without a conscience--that is, no internal sense of what is right and what is not--can feel niether.
hossteacher
2007-07-28 19:44:13 UTC
To feel a sense of guilt is to have a working conscience that tells you, you have done something wrong. Guilt can be pretty deep, especially if a man repents of a violent crime.



Shame is a deeper sense of guilt because shame carries along with it something so deeply sinful that we want to hide our very being from others. Shame many times concerns sins of a sexual nature. Humility places us in a proper relationship with God. He is Creator, we are creators, we owe him Love, respect and service. Shame is something that we have done against love or respect, we have done something so bad in devious way to others that we cannot stand ourselves.

If guilt were likened to "I did a bad thing" then Shame would be likened to "Oh My God, I am so bad, I did something so wrong."
Cap'n Blood
2007-07-28 19:22:57 UTC
Shame is honest. Feeling bad for hurting someone. Guilt is an ego trip! Indulging in self-pity because we hurt somebody.
thachu5
2007-07-28 19:30:06 UTC
An act which cause distress and pain because of an act that was caused by you and you feel responsible for it, that is called guilt.



Shame can be described as an act of yours where in you fell short of your own set standards, or values. You feel bad you did this. then you are ashamed of your self.
anonymous
2007-07-28 19:23:52 UTC
IMHO...

Guilt is something someone tries to force on you.

Shame is something you place on yourself.



If I do something 'terrible' I don't feel guilty, I feel shame for what I did.



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moosemose
2007-07-29 02:36:35 UTC
Here's the "Scoop" on "Guilt"!!! John



DOCTRINE OF GUILT



A. Definition and Description. Guilt can be a feeling of responsibility

or remorse for some real or imaged offense, and this is not sinful. But as

a part of the emotional complex of sins, guilt becomes morbid self-reproach,

emotional feelings of culpability for actual or imaged offenses. It brings

out a sense of inadequacy which becomes very dangerous, because it leads to

arrogant pre-occupation with the correctness of one's behavior from self-

righteous arrogance. The greatest of all problems related to rejection is

guilt.



B. Guilt Related to Repression, Denial, Projection, and Manipulation.

1. There are three sources of manipulation in the life of any believer

who is under the emotional complex of sins.

a. The manipulation of yourself. This is your guilt trip.

b. Subjective manipulation. You are being manipulated by someone

else.

c. Being converted to legalism, you now become a manipulator of

others yourself. You become a crusader for legalism.

2. Guilt is a sin that often caused by repression, denial, projection,

and manipulation. The weak control the strong through manipulation by

stipulation.

a. Repression is rejection from the stream of consciousness of

painful and disagreeable ideas, memories, feelings, and impulses.

Repression puts garbage in the subconscious and sinful guilt in the stream

of consciousness.

(1) Guilt causes repression as a primary defense against

anxieties, fears, worries, instead of using the problem solving devices

which are available. Repression as a means of denial is part of the

problem. Repression denies the reality of the problem because it is too

painful or unpleasant to face, therefore, the arrogant person refuses to

admit it.

(2) Repression develops behavior patterns or habits or

thought patterns to avoid facing the issue or experience the pain or

discomfort. Repression often buries the problem in the subconscious, so

that what is left is behavior, habits, or thoughts developed to avoid the

issue. This is why people often say, "I don't know why I keep doing this."

(3) The results of repression:

(a) Metabolization and application of Bible doctrine is

blocked in the areas affected by denial.

(b) Fragmentation of the soul in areas of the emotional

or arrogance complex of sins.

(c) Self-punishment or self-induced misery from the

arrogance and emotional complex of sins.

(d) Polarized fragmentation from the trends of the sin

nature--arrogant self-righteousness and antinomianism.

(e) Lack of problem solving devices on the FLOT line of

the soul to prevent the outside pressures of adversity from becoming the

inside pressures of stress in the soul and leads to reversionism.

i. Entrance into the stages of reversionism has

two results: Christian moral degeneracy which comes from legalism and

Christian immoral degeneracy which comes from fragmentation. When the FLOT

line of the soul lacks the ten problem solving devices which act as an

instant reaction force to protect your soul and spiritual life, anytime you

have adversity, it moves right into the soul and becomes stress. Stress in

the soul is generally manifest by two categories of self-fragmentation: the

arrogance complex of sins and the emotional complex of sins. From this

there is a movement toward the sin nature's trend (either legalism or

antinomianism), and these are really gates into the eight stages of

reversionism, which in the case of legalism end in Christian moral

degeneracy, and in the case of antinomianism end in Christian immoral

degeneracy. From both of these often come the psycho believer, described in

the Hebrew of Deut 28 by the word SHIGAON and in the Greek by the word

DIPSUCHOS (a split personality), Jam 1:8, 4:8.

ii. Rebound is the first problem solving device and

is designed, like all the other problem solving devices, to prevent the

outside pressures of adversity from becoming the inside pressures of stress

in the soul. 1 Jn 1:8, 10, "If we say that we have no sin [denial], we are

deceiving ourselves and the truth is not in us." "If we say that we have

not sinned [denial], we make God a liar and His word is not in us." In both

cases of denial, we have a believer with no epignosis doctrine metabolized

in the soul. The filling between these two verses is the rebound technique,

1 Jn 1:9, "If we acknowledge our sins to God, He is faithful and just with

the result that He forgives us our sins and purifies us from all

unrighteousness [our sins of ignorance]." We are citing the court room case

of Christ having already paid the penalty for our sins on the Cross. We do

not have to do anything to assuage guilt feelings about our sins, confess

our sins to others, or promise God we will never do it again. We simply

acknowledge or cite our sins to God. Without the rebound technique, there

is no maintenance of the spiritual life. You and only you can maintain your

spiritual life.

iii. The trends of the sin nature can be defined in

terms of the sins of the soul and the body; for the self-righteous arrogance

and legalistic trend of the sin nature is related to the sins of the soul,

just as antinomianism is related to the sins of the body.

iv. The results of rebound include: recovery of

fellowship with God, recovery of the filling of the Holy Spirit, we are

again in the position of equal privilege and equal opportunity to execute

the protocol plan of God for the Church by re-entrance into the divine

dynasphere, we are again able to metabolize Bible doctrine, we are back to

spiritual reality, we are living our own spiritual life, our spiritual

momentum is resumed through perception and metabolization of doctrine, the

problem solving device of rebound is back on the FLOT line of the soul as an

instant reaction force to protect us from the outside pressures of adversity

becoming the inside pressures of stress in the soul.

b. Guilt results from being manipulated by some dominating

personality or a weak person with self-righteousness or arrogance. Guilt is

a sin caused by repression, denial, projection, manipulation; hence, guilt

motivates many failures in the spiritual life. Guilt becomes a sin when the

believer rebounds but fails to forget those things which are behind and

reaching forth toward those things which are before, Phil 3:13-14.

c. Experiences involving guilt or shame are likely to be

repressed to form garbage in the subconscious, but they also have a

tremendous effect upon the volition and decisions that are made in

interaction with people.

d. Guilt is the failure to use the problem solving devices, so

that the conversion of outside pressures of adversity are brought into the

inside pressure of stress in the soul. This results in painful anxieties,

which are repressed, but do not lose their dynamic drive and tension.

Stress in the soul means old sin nature control of the soul. If this

continues for a long period of time you develop hardness of heart or scar

tissue of the soul and you lose your defenses on the FLOT line of the soul.

3. Guilt produces restitutionism. Restitutionism is a mechanic of

relieving the mind of the load of guilt through reparation or acts of

restitution. Restitutionism originates from guilt and becomes a primary

motivation in life.

4. Experiences involving guilt or shame are often repressed to form

garbage in your subconscious. Guilt is a major failure to have the problem

solving devices on the FLOT line of your soul. Guilt function is the

conversion of the outside pressures of adversity into the inside pressures

of stress in the soul. Guilt causes repression as a defense or a denial

against fear, worry, anxiety, or any stress factors related to guilt.

Guilt, therefore, has its own defense mechanisms which merely prolong the

problem: repression, denial, and projection.

a. Repression--this is how we accumulate garbage in the

subconscious.

b. Dissociation--this is how we get disorganized in the stream of

consciousness.

c. Denial--this is how we have a false perception of reality,

especially as it pertains to people. Denial results in projection, or the

transfer of one's flaws, sins, and failures to another person through

vilification, malice, and revenge.

d. Projection--this is when we begin to assign to our rejectors

or others our own flaws or failures. Feelings of guilt which cause anxiety

may be alleviated by a contrived defense mechanism of blaming others for

one's shameful flaws or failures. By projection, a person with a guilt

complex of lowering self-esteem falsely attributes his or her own flaws,

unacknowledged feelings, impulses, or thoughts to the rejector. By blaming

others for one's emotional sins and guilt producing impulses, the believer

uses projection to leave himself or herself guiltless and even victimized.

If you can make the other party feel guilty in this problem, then you feel

less guilty. This is the evil of manipulation of the weak to control the

strong.

(1) Often the rejector has been motivated by the rejectee,

so that the real rejectee is the rejector who is simply functioning under

some separation. On the other hand, it may be a real rejection, so that the

rejectee now has to deal with the problems of the rejector.

(2) The rejectee might be all right, all wrong, partially

right, or partially wrong. The rejector might be all right, all wrong,

partially right, or partially wrong. Who is at fault? The one who finally

had enough and rejected, or the one who motivated all of that having enough?

People must decide this for themselves before the Lord.

(3) You can be right in being rejected and wrong in how you

react. You can be right as the rejector and wrong in how you function.

5. The believer may react with hostility and aggressive behavior

toward the object of projection. This is another defense mechanism against

anxiety. Projection is actually a means of denial. Examples:

a. Believer A is the rejectee and is unable to tolerate the

anxiety aroused by his or her own hatred toward the rejector (believer B).

Believer A assumes they are rejected; therefore, develops antagonism or

hatred toward believer B. Believer A is very self-righteous and cannot even

tolerate himself or herself because of this hatred. So believer A handles

the problem by making a subconscious change of attitude. Believer A changes

their attitude from "I hate B" to "B hates me." That is a defense mechanism

for getting rid of the anxiety. Repression and projection protect the ego

from being overwhelmed or disorganized by the effects of the sins of hatred,

antagonism, and guilt. Guilt may be assuaged by attaching to others the

very motives that created the problems in the first place.

b. Believer A rejects believer B through manipulation by

stipulation. Believer B reacts and rejects believer A. Now believer A is

shocked.

6. Another problem is the sweet believer. Some people have a natural

sweetness which has nothing to do with the spiritual life. Sweetness is

often a facade for a person who is self-fragmented and already into

Christian degeneracy, but they are still sweet. Do not confuse your

spiritual life with your natural attributes. Natural sweetness is not

produced by the filling of the Holy Spirit or by doctrine. Excessive

sweetness or amiability may conceal a very arrogant, self-righteous,

intensely hostile person.

7. Feelings of rejection and resultant hostility can be disguised by a

self-righteous facade of being injured, of being unjustly treated, of being

a victim of cruelty or unfairness, when in reality, the mask of being

rejected is a disguise for a person who is rotten to the core. To deny and

disguise personality traits involving the sins of arrogance and the sins of

the emotional complex of the soul, not only require denial and rejection,

but they demand projection--you have to assign these to others.

8. Another problem is compensation. Compensation contributes to a

mental process by which the believer being rejected, not only becomes blind

to his or her undesirable characteristics from the sin nature, but also

develops, designs, stimulates, and makes a pretense of spirituality. This

is the believer who assumes the appearance of a spiritual giant, when the

inner reality of the soul is that of an arrogant, insolent, overbearing,

spiritual midget. They persuade others that they are the victim, when in

reality, they are the problem. If the rejected believer is weak, he or she

will develop a big guilt complex, so that they feel like a legitimate

victim. Therefore, projection reinforces the martyrdom complex assumed by

the rejectee. Part of the martyrdom complex is the feelings of guilt which

give rise to feelings of anxiety, which must be alleviated. If the rejected

believer is able to cast the blame for his or her shameful tendencies on the

rejector, then there is alleviation. The attitude of the rejected person is

that to be guiltless is to be victimized, to be persecuted is to be

martyred. This follows the motivation that if you can make the rejector

feel guilty, you feel less guilty as a phoney rejectee. In this way, the

rejected believer can shift all of the blame to the rejector, which means

the rejectee can hold the rejector responsible for the entire problem for

that moment and for the rest of his or her life. Thinking to yourself, "I

am a victim; I have been wronged." is scar tissue that destroys and covers

up metabolized doctrine in the stream of consciousness.

9. Another problem is delusions of grandeur and emotional instability.

a. Delusions of grandeur originate from feelings of inadequacy,

insecurity, or inferiority. The believer who has been rejected, but through

self-righteousness arrogance thinks he or she is absolutely right, has

through the delusion escaped from reality, which has been too great for his

or her emotional security. Emotional sins bring emotional insecurity.

Emotional insecurity brings irrationality to the soul. If the problem was

guilt, then the delusion is that he or she achieved a spiritual life

approximating perfection. The rejectee has destroyed his or her own

spiritual life. Instead, they have put on the costume of the perfect

person, and they are absolutely sold on the idea that they were right about

this and they are right about everything else. Once you start practicing

repression, denial, projection, and compensation you are totally divorced

from reality.

b. Emotional instability. If the rejected believer was troubled

with thoughts of inferiority, he or she as a martyr of rejection has now

achieved spiritual distinction. Martyrdom is a pseudo spiritual life. If

the rejected believer was troubled by fear, worry, or anxiety, he or she has

gained a sense of security--not from metabolized doctrine in the stream of

consciousness, not from problem solving devices, but from a grandiose

delusion, so that feeling of guilt may be assuaged by attaching to the

rejector the motives that created the problems. It is very difficult to

recover from this type of bitterness. Some of the trends of emotional

maladjustment are:

(1) Stubbornness.

(2) Tantrums.

(3) Hypersensitivity.

(4) Sulking.

(5) Deceitfulness.

(6) Defiant.

(7) Erratic.

(8) Arrogant.

(9) Affectionless.

(10) Demanding much and giving little.

(11) Ungrateful.

(12) Limited feelings of guilt or remorse because of self-

righteousness arrogance, projection, denial, and repression.

(13) Demands instant gratification with no concern or regard

for the feelings of others.

(14) Lack of definite objectives in life but quick to blame

others as if there were objectives in life; hence, in a state of

restlessness resulting from a search for the unattainable.

(15) Emotional instability has few values in life, and learns

nothing from confrontation, adverse experience, or divine discipline.

(16) One can only adjust to environment where he or she

dominates.

(17) This person often becomes a sociopathic personality,

having no regard for the rights of others and is unable to either sympathize

or empathize.

(18) Projects his or her insecurity by blaming others.

(19) Rationalizes his or her behavior to be compatible with

the status of his or her self-righteous arrogance.

(20) Impulsive and instant response to his or her own

feelings. Manipulation by stipulation, which means, "reconciliation on my

terms." "If you don't do this, then I won't do that." This is the

statement of a person who has lost all perspective of reality in life. They

never think about handling the problems of relationships with people through

the use of the problem solving devices because they never think about God

and have no love for Him. They are out of fellowship and do not even know

it, because they have entered into repression and denial.



C. The Law of Double Punishment.

1. Under the law of double punishment, two simultaneous categories of

punitive action function coterminously. They begin to function when the

believer does not have the problem solving devices in the stream of

consciousness of his soul.

a. The believer's soul is the battleground for the historic

extension of the prehistoric angelic conflict.

b. The spiritual life of the believer is located in the soul.

c. You, and you alone, are the only one who can live your

spiritual life. No one else can live it for you. Failure to extrapolate

from doctrine circulating in your stream of consciousness means that sooner

or later you will come to the law of double punishment.

2. The first system of punishment is the law of volitional

responsibility. You punish yourself, for example, with the presence of

guilt. You have all the sins of arrogance that come along with the guilt.

There is no way you can get rid of this guilt once you are locked into it.

3. The second system of punishment comes from the Supreme Court of

heaven. It is warning and intensive discipline. The purpose of warning and

intensive discipline is to remove guilt from the soul of the believer.

Punishment removes the guilt. This is why God disciplines us while we are

trying to destroy ourselves with guilt in the soul. God disciplines us on

top of our own self-punishment to protect us from the sins of the emotional

complex which will destroy our spiritual life.

4. Scripture.

a. Hos 8:7, "For they sow the wind, and they reap the whirlwind.

The standing grain has no heads; it yields no grain. Should it yield,

strangers would swallow it up."

b. Prov 22:8, "He who sows wickedness reaps trouble, And the rod

of his wrath shall be ready." The first line is the law of volitional

responsibility and the second line is punishment from the Supreme Court of

heaven.

c. Col 3:25, "For he who does wrong will receive the consequences

of that wrong which he has done, and there is no partiality."

d. Gal 6:7-8, "Be not deceived, God is not mocked; for whatever a

man sows, this will he also reap; for the one who sows to his own flesh [sin

nature] shall from the sin nature reap corruption."

e. Job 4:8, "On the basis of what I have seen, those who plow

iniquity and those who sow trouble reap its harvest."

f. Prov 22:8, "He who sows iniquity will reap vanity, and the rod

of his fury will perish."

g. Rev 3:19, "Those whom I love, I reprove and discipline;

therefore, be earnest and change your mind [about these doctrines]."

5. These two systems of discipline occur simultaneously until rebound

is used by the believer as a problem solving device on the FLOT line of the

soul.

6. The concept that punishment removes guilt is taught in Heb 12:3-14,

"For consider Him who endured such hostility [the outside pressure of

adversity] by sinners against Himself, so that you may not grow weary

fainting in your souls. You have not yet resisted as far as blood [as far

as Jesus did] in your defense against sin [the defense against sin is the

maximum use of the ten problem solving devices]; furthermore you have

forgotten the exhortation which is communicated to you as sons [Prov 3:11],

`My son, do not make light of the discipline from the Lord, nor faint when

you are reproved by Him.' [Prov 3:12; Ps 119:75] `For those whom the Lord

loves He disciplines [warning discipline], and He scourges [intensive

discipline] every son whom He receives.' As a result of punishment you

endure; God deals with you as with sons; for what son is there whom his

father does not discipline? But if you are without discipline, of which all

have become partakers, then you are illegitimate children and not sons.

Furthermore, we have human fathers to discipline us, and we respected them;

how much more should we submit to the Father of our human spirits, and live?

For they disciplined us for a short time as they thought best, but He

{disciplines us} for our good, that we may share His integrity. No

discipline at the moment seems pleasant, but painful; yet for those who have

been trained by it, afterwards it pays back a harvest of tranquility and

integrity. Therefore, strengthen the hands that are weak and the knees that

are feeble [this is a divine mandate to extrapolate from metabolized

doctrine in the stream of consciousness the ten problem solving devices and

station them on the FLOT line of the soul and to rebound], and make straight

paths for your feet [utilize the problem solving devices], so that the leg

which is lame may not be put out of joint, but rather be healed. Pursue

tranquility with all believers, and sanctification without which no one will

see the Lord [be occupied with Christ]."

a. Punishment removes guilt in the rearing of children just as

punishment from God removes guilt from the sinful believer. Just as

punishment removes guilt from the children in the home, so divine discipline

removes guilt from the believer in the plan of God. Divine discipline is,

therefore, a blessing. If you do not spank a child, you are destroying

their personality. Discipline must be given by the parents with thought.

Never discipline when angry; cool off first before you discipline.

(1) Prov 3:11-12, "My son, do not reject the discipline from

the Lord, Or despise His reproof, For whom the Lord loves He disciplines,

Even as a father, the son in whom he delights." We should never reject

divine discipline because it is a demonstration of divine love.

(2) Ps 119:75, "I know, O Lord, that Your judgments are

righteous, And that in faithfulness You have afflicted me."

b. Punishment of children is necessary to prevent them from

becoming neurotic and disoriented to life under the concepts of repression,

denial, and projection. If a child is not justly punished, then the guilt

remains with them and builds up until you have an abnormal child. They

totally reject authority in life. When God punish us, the guilt is removed.

Children without discipline from parents are rotten because of the sins of

arrogance to which they are blind. They fail to have a normal perception of

reality in their lives.

c. You cannot have the sins of the emotional complex or the

arrogance complex and have the integrity of God. If you live by guilt,

little by little you lose your perception of reality; you eventually get

into projection, and that is the antithesis of the integrity of God. Sin

brings misery and unhappiness to you first, and then to others around you.

You cannot be miserable regarding self without it affecting others.

d. Discipline and punishment is training. How are you trained by

discipline?

(1) Discipline and punishment is designed to remove guilt so

that the person is objective rather than subjective, and to deal with the

evil influence of emotional sins.

(2) Discipline teaches respect for authority and authority

orientation, teachability, and humility.

(3) Discipline produces tranquility and integrity by

restoration to fellowship. Punishment brings the child around to the

integrity of the parent. Even though it is painful at the time, it is good

for the child as it is good for the believer. God has graciously given us

tranquility and integrity produced by rebound, restoration to fellowship,

and whatever discipline is left is cursing turned into blessing.

7. The addendum to Heb 12:3-14 is Rev 3:14-22.

a. Introduction.

(1) The entire passage is directed toward believers who have

failed to execute the protocol plan of God, failed to become aware of their

portfolio of invisible assets, and therefore, failed to utilize these assets

in fulfilling God's plan, will, and purpose for their lives.

(2) The failure of these believers was also caused by one of

the greatest attacks on the spiritual life. Part of your portfolio of

invisible assets is the fact that God provided for you in eternity past your

very own spiritual life. You are the only one who can live that life. In

order for you to do so, God provided as a part of your portfolio of

invisible assets ten problem solving devices. These problem solving devices

are the spiritual system of defense for the soul, since the soul is the

battleground in the spiritual realm. The source of these problem solving

devices is the right lobe of the soul. The right lobe of the soul is where

we have our stream of consciousness and the location of the circulation of

metabolized doctrine. From the doctrine circulating in the stream of

consciousness, you extrapolate the ten problem solving devices for use to

defend the soul against the outside pressures of adversity. The objective

is to prevent the outside pressures of adversity from becoming the inside

pressure of stress in the soul, which is tantamount to sin nature control of

the soul.

(3) Laodicea was one of the greatest centers of wealth in

the Roman Empire. These wealthy Laodiceans realized that Christ was the

only savior, but many had the problem of negative volition to doctrine. The

city received very cold water from the south near Colossae and very hot

water through a pipeline carved out of square limestone blocks from a hot

springs in the north near Hierapolis (five miles away). By the time the hot

water reached Laodicea it was lukewarm. This lukewarm water had a high

mineral content and caused people to vomit. Hot and cold water are

metaphors for the unbeliever and the believer who is positive to doctrine.

(4) The outside pressures of adversity and the outside

pressures of prosperity both attack the soul to create stress (old sin

nature control) in the soul. The problem solving devices are the soul's

spiritual defense against outside pressures of adversity and prosperity.

b. Rev 3:14-15, "And to the messenger of the church in Laodicea

write: `The Amen [Jesus Christ as the object of faith], the faithful and

true Witness, the Ruler of the creation of God, communicates these things:

"I know your modus operandi [works], that you are neither cold [unbelievers]

nor hot [believers positive to doctrine]; I wish you were cold or hot."'"

(1) Jesus Christ is the Amen--the object of faith for

eternal salvation. Jesus Christ as the faithful and true Witness refers to

the First Advent with emphasis on His salvation work on the Cross, the

precedence He established while being judged for the sins of the world, and

His control of history, holding the universe together. Jesus Christ is the

ruler of the creation of God.

(2) The believer was hot and then became lukewarm.

Believers are a product of their own decisions. We are also the product of

our own values. The combination of our volition and values will either make

or break us. False values are destructive to freedom. The solution to

being either cold or hot is the communication of doctrine. The unbeliever

receives the communication of the gospel and becomes hot. The positive

believer receives the teaching of doctrine and remains hot. The problem is

the lukewarm believer.

c. Rev 3:16, "`So because you are lukewarm, and neither hot nor

cold, I am about to vomit you out from My mouth.'"

(1) The lukewarm believer is the believer with no problem

solving devices circulating in his stream of consciousness to prevent the

conversion of the outside pressure of adversity into the inside pressure of

stress in the soul. The Laodiceans had converted the outside pressures of

prosperity testing into stress in the soul or old sin nature control of the

soul. They started out with Bible doctrine as their number one priority but

ended up in the cosmic system, reversionism, and self-fragmentation of the

soul because of negative volition to doctrine. They failed to realize the

power of doctrine in the spiritual life.

(2) "Vomiting out from My mouth" is a reference to the third

category of divine discipline to believers--dying discipline. Compare 1 Jn

5:16, "There is a sin terminating in death" and 1 Cor 11:30-31. The present

active indicative of the verb MELLO means to be about to do something.

Jesus Christ was about to administer dying discipline but had not yet done

so.

(a) The supreme court of heaven practices capital

punishment administered to believers who do not recover from converting the

outside pressures of adversity into the inside pressure of stress in the

soul. The Bible says capital punishment is the only way to control certain

crimes. Capital punishment is the only system that remembers the victim.

It is wrong to forget the victim.

(b) The administration of maximum divine punitive

action against the believer does not cancel his salvation. There is nothing

we can do to cancel the perfect righteousness of God and eternal life of God

given to us by God at salvation. You are born again at salvation and you

cannot become unborn by failure. Volition is the issue in your life--you

can choose for Bible doctrine or reject it. The pastor's message is just as

much to those who reject doctrine as to those who accept it.

(c) No believer, no matter how evil, can cancel the

forty things given to him at the moment of faith in Christ.

(d) As long as the believer is alive, he has the option

of recovery and remission of the death sentence. It begins by the use of

rebound and continues with the intake of doctrine, extrapolation of the

problem solving devices and stationing them on the FLOT line of the soul,

and the continued intake of doctrine to the point of spiritual maturity.

(3) Principles of stress related to adversity.

(a) Adversity is the outside pressure of life; stress

is the inside pressure of the soul.

(b) Stress is what you do to yourself; adversity is

what circumstances do to you.

(c) Adversity is inevitable; stress is optional.

(d) Stress in the soul contradicts the protocol plan of

God for the Church.

(e) Stress in the soul is tantamount to sin nature

control of the soul, and therefore, follows the pattern of soul sins--the

arrogance complex, the emotional complex of sins.

(f) Stress and the sin nature control of the soul

results destruction of metabolized doctrine in the stream of consciousness

and at the same time hinders any further metabolization of doctrine until

the situation is corrected.

(g) All solutions to stress and sin nature control of

the soul begin with the rebound technique.

(h) All solutions continue with extrapolation of

metabolized doctrine from the stream of consciousness--the ten problem

solving devices which prevent the outside pressure of adversity from

becoming stress in the soul.

(i) Recovery from stress reverses the process--the use

of rebound backed up by the use of the other problem solving devices.

(4) The outside pressure of prosperity can be defined as:

wealth and riches, love and romance, promotion and power, success and

approbation, and achievement and recognition. These are part of the

prosperity test.

(5) There are principles of stress related to prosperity.

(a) Prosperity is the outside pressure of life; stress

is the inside pressure of the soul.

(b) When the outside pressure of prosperity is

converted into the inside pressure of stress in the soul, the sin nature

takes control of the soul.

(c) Sin nature control of the soul means liability and

vulnerability to the soul sins from both the arrogance and emotional complex

of sins.

(d) The perpetuation of arrogance and the emotional

complex of sins results in polarized fragmentation, reversionism, Christian

degeneracy, and the psycho believer.

(e) The solution to stress in the soul related to

prosperity includes metabolized doctrine circulating in the stream of

consciousness and subsequent use of the ten problem solving devices on the

FLOT line of the soul functioning as an instant reaction force to prevent

the outside pressures of prosperity from becoming the inside pressure of

stress in the soul. Where there are no problem solving devices on the FLOT

line of the soul, the believer is just as miserable in prosperity as he is

in adversity.

(6) Your spiritual life is what you think in your soul. God

provided for you as a Church Age believer your very own portfolio of

invisible assets which include your very own spiritual life and the ten

problem solving devices. You and you alone are the only one who can live

your spiritual life. No one else can run your spiritual life for you, which

is what legalism and every denomination try to do (though there are pastors

who are exceptions in every denomination). Your spiritual life is the

greatest thing God ever gave to you. God provided for every Church Age

believer a permanent briefing in writing (the New Testament epistles) to

explain the modus operandi of your spiritual life. Bible doctrine must be

transferred from the page of Scripture to your soul through Bible teaching

for the function of your spiritual life and worship. You take with you to

the grave all that is related to success in living the spiritual life. God

has provided prosperity for every believer in his spiritual life.

d. Failure to pass the prosperity test is the subject of Rev

3:17, "`Because you say, "I am rich, and have become extremely wealthy, in

fact I have need of nothing," in fact you do not realize that you are under

stress [sin nature control of the soul] and miserable [no capacity for

happiness or blessing] and poor [no values related to the spiritual life]

and blind [no perception of reality related to the spiritual life] and naked

[no problem solving devices on the FLOT of the soul].'"

(1) There is nothing evil are wrong with being wealthy.

Redistribution of wealth and socialism are evil. The problem with the

Laodiceans is that they no longer feel they need doctrine. They depend on

their wealth rather than doctrine circulating in their soul. At the time of

writing, Laodicea was the wealthiest city per capita in the known world.

They have failed to realize that in the portfolio of invisible assets there

is a system of wealth that you can take with you into eternity.

(2) The first half of this verse is the Laodicean's false

perception of reality. "In fact I have need of nothing" is the statement of

their repression and denial, reverse process reversionism, emotional

sinning, and divorcement from reality. There is nothing like doctrine to

convert unreality back into reality. The true perception of reality is

stress in the soul, sin nature control of the soul, and self-fragmentation

and polarized fragmentation of the soul; they have failed to pass prosperity

testing. They are now serving money rather than God. Mt 6:24, "No one can

serve two masters; for either he will hate the one and love the other, or he

will hold to one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and mammon

[dependence on wealth]."

(3) As they began to lean more on their wealth, they slowly

stopped depending on the problem solving devices circulating in the stream

of consciousness. The stopped being occupied with Christ, sharing the

happiness of God, having impersonal love for others, having personal love

for God, having a personal sense of destiny, being doctrinally oriented,

being grace oriented, using the faith-rest drill, being filled with the Holy

Spirit.

(4) Five Greek words describe the true situation. The Greek

word TALAIPOROS means to be under stress and refers to sin nature control of

the soul. The Greek word ELEEINOS means miserable in the sense of no

capacity for happiness or blessing, no sense of appreciation. The Greek

word PTOCHOS means poor in the sense of no values related to the spiritual

life. The Greek word TUPHLOS means blind in the sense of no perception of

reality related to the spiritual life--repression, denial, and projection.

The Greek word GUMNOS means naked in the sense of no problem solving devices

on the FLOT line of the soul; their soul is without any defense against

stress in the soul. These metaphors are designed to explain the true status

of carnality in contrast to their statement which presents the false

perception of reality ("I am rich and have need of nothing.").

e. Rev 3:18, "I advise you to buy from Me gold [Bible doctrine]

which has been refined by fire [the spiritual life is refined through

outside pressure of adversity or prosperity], that you may become rich, and

white clothes, that you may clothe yourself, and the shame [loser at the

Judgment Seat of Christ] of your nakedness [failure to execute the protocol

plan of God] may not be revealed; and eye salve to rub in your eyes, that

you may keep on seeing."

(1) In this verse, there is the great investment in Bible

doctrine (gold) during life on earth and a fantastic dividend paid beyond

the grave at the Judgment Seat of Christ in the form of escrow blessings for

eternity (white clothes--the uniform of glory). Through your daily

perception of Bible doctrine, you make a fantastic investment in time.

Bible doctrine is the ultimate in value in life. All believers have

spiritual freedom and the ultimate value in life; therefore, how the

believer uses his volition results in great variations in eternity. Losers

of escrow blessing will be very different from spiritual winners in

eternity. This is why the Lord advises us to invest our soul in Bible

doctrine. If you do not, you will make yourself miserable and God will give

you divine discipline. No one can make you take in doctrine; you must

establish your own values and make your own decisions.

(2) The verb SUMBOULEO is not a mandate but a word for

advice or counsel, because once a believer has stress in the soul and his

spiritual life is put out of action, his recovery demands recognizing the

true status quo and using his volition to recover. You are the product of

your own volition. This is an appeal to your volition. Volition is the

issue in your soul life and in your spiritual life. You must decide what

your values are going to be in life: wealth and riches, love and romance,

promotion and power, success and approbation, achievement and recognition,

or Bible doctrine and the divine scale of values. No one can force you to

recover; you must see your condition for yourself. The Lord advises the

carnal believer to recover and some believers never recover. Your advice

and counsel comes from Bible doctrine. You and you alone are the only one

who can live your spiritual life. You have a choice between being miserable

or having the most fantastic happiness the world has ever seen.

(3) Your spiritual life requires investment in Bible

doctrine, which is the only means of living it. You are the only one who

can make this investment. Perception and metabolization of Bible doctrine

is the investment of a lifetime; it is the capital for the spiritual life.

Investment in Bible doctrine pays dividends for glory without the usual risk

associated with investment. Only what comes from doctrine is reflected in

fantastic blessings beyond the grave. Bible doctrine is the only investment

that remains profitable for both time and eternity. The purchasing power of

the believer is related to Bible doctrine circulating in the stream of

consciousness. Metabolized doctrine is the only basis for success for

believers. The Laodiceans were wealthy by human standards and understood

the importance of buying good investments. They were depending upon wealth

they could see rather than on the finest of wealth provided by their

spiritual life.

(a) "Gold" is a metaphor for Bible doctrine circulating

in the stream of consciousness. The Greek word for gold is CHRUSIOS, which

refers to refined gold that has been turned into something of value like

coins or jewelry in contrast to CHRUSOS which refers to raw gold. The

believer sees the value of Bible doctrine and the problem solving devices

when the pressures of adversity and prosperity attack the soul. The

Laodiceans have their eyes on the prosperity God has graciously given them.

They are now looking on the things that are seen and temporal, but the

spiritual life is related to the things which are not seen and eternal. The

word gold here refers to your portfolio of invisible assets which includes

your escrow blessings for time, your spiritual life, and the fantastic

problem solving devices.

(b) Spiritual wealth is the only wealth you can take

with you beyond the grave. The successful spiritual life is the only one

success the believer can take with him beyond the grave. Never in human

history has greatness related to God been given to so many to have invisible

historical impact. Your successful spiritual life has far greater

significance than anything ever recognized by human success standards. It

is a life that has meaning beyond the grave. You have the opportunity to

take the true capital of the spiritual life (Bible doctrine) and convert it

into something of value beyond the grave.

(c) Refining by heat refers to the outside pressures

of adversity and the outside pressures of prosperity. The spiritual life is

refined through the pressure of adversity or prosperity because pressure

increases your occupation with Christ. By living the spiritual life, you

can enjoy each day even under pressure and look forward to all of eternity

with fantastic blessings. Bible doctrine in your soul goes through the

pressure of adversity and prosperity and results in tremendous tranquility

and blessing in the soul, so that no matter circumstances we are in people

and circumstances do not control us. People, circumstances and environment

do not affect the believer with maximum Bible doctrine circulating in the

stream of consciousness. Normal spiritual growth can be accelerated by both

adversity and by prosperity. They tried to solve all their problems in life

with money. The spiritual life is the only life that can handle the

pressures of life. You convert gnosis into epignosis rather than adversity

into stress in the soul.

(4) The white garments or clothes refer to what God has

provided in eternity for believers who fulfill His plan, the uniform of

glory mentioned in Rev 3:4-5, "'But you have a few persons in Sardis who

have not soiled their garments; in fact they will walk with Me in whites;

because they are worthy. `The winner shall be clothed in white garments;

and I will never blot out his title from the book of life, and I will

acknowledge his title in the presence of My Father, and before His angels.'"

The uniform of glory is a translucent garment worn over the resurrection

bodies of those believers who execute the protocol plan of God for the

Church. They were invisible heroes in time but are the most visible human

beings in resurrection body in heaven. The uniform of glory goes with the

highest and most unusual decoration in heaven--the order of the morning

star, Rev 2:26,28 cf Rev 22:16. These are just a part of the riches and

wealth of eternity that are far superior to any earthly wealth. The uniform

of glory is the indication that the believer made Bible doctrine the great

investment in his soul.

(5) Bible doctrine is the medication you rub into the eyes

of your soul, so that you may keep on seeing the reality of spiritual truth.

f. Rev 3:19, "`Those whom I love, I reprimand [warning

discipline] and I punishment [intensive discipline]; therefore, keep on

being serious in your motivation [purpose and intention] and change your

mind.'"

(1) This verse deals with the alternative to investment in

Bible doctrine--the law of double punishment. The law of double punishment

includes two categories.

(a) We create our own punishment through the law of

volitional responsibility, Hos 8:7; Gal 6:7-8; Col 3:25; Prov 22:8a.

(b) God creates our punishment through the law of

divine punitive action, 1 Cor 11:30-31; Prov 22:8b. Rebound cancels this

discipline and any remaining cursing is turned into blessing. God punishes

immediately so that guilt is not allowed to build up in the soul.

(2) The believer is the product of his own volition and

values. From our positive volition to doctrine we fulfill our spiritual

life and develop spiritual values. If we are negative to doctrine, we lose

spiritual values. We are not the products of our environment, but of our

own volition. When you lean on environment for solutions, you create stress

in the soul. You cannot blame your environment for the bad decisions from

your own volition. You live your spiritual life by creating spiritual

values by learning and applying Bible doctrine. Those who do this are

living their life in the light of eternity and will have no regrets when

they die. You can have a spiritual life beyond gnosis (knowledge) and a

life beyond dreams. As a part of you spiritual life, God provided for you

ten problem solving devices so you can handle all your own problems day by

day by day.

(3) Every bit of punishment and discipline that comes to us

as believers from the supreme court of heaven is based on a personal love

for us [PHILEO].

(4) Because believers have the perfect righteousness of God

as of the moment of salvation and this righteousness is incompatible with

the functions of the old sin nature, we often receive far greater divine

discipline than the unbeliever.

(5) Discipline and punishment is God's alternate system of

motivation.

(a) We have two kinds of motivation in life: motivation

from metabolized doctrine in the stream of consciousness or motivation from

garbage in the subconscious. We are either motivated by Bible doctrine when

in fellowship or motivated by divine discipline when out of fellowship.

God must use pain and punishment to bring us around to using rebound to get

back into fellowship.

(b) Motivation should always precede decision in the

spiritual life. Recovery of the Laodiceans demands pulling together the

facts from Scripture and setting aside whatever sin nature activity is

involved. The only motivation that counts is the motivation extrapolated

from the Bible doctrine circulating in the stream of consciousness. When

you have maximum Bible doctrine circulating in your stream of consciousness,

you will have proper motivation and then proper decision. You need to think

in terms of principle to have proper motivation.

(c) If you are not going to be motivated by grace, then

you are going to have to be motivated by discipline. This is the great

principle of this verse. Discipline is a good motivation. Divine punitive

action adds to self-induced misery to establish an authority in your life

and to straighten you out. Your only motivation while under divine

discipline is to rebound. You are to keep on being serious in your

motivation to rebound. Rebound is not to be taken lightly. You must

continue firmness of motivation and stability in the execution of grace

recovery.

(d) God is motivated by divine love to punish us, which

He uses as motivation to get us back into fellowship. What motivates us to

get back into fellowship? Fear that if we ignore warning discipline, we are

going to get intensive discipline. From our viewpoint it is fear, from

God's viewpoint it is love. "The fear of the Lord is the beginning of

wisdom." This is fear in the sense of authority orientation and respect for

authority, not fear in the sense of being afraid of tyranny. When authority

is exercised over a group of people, there is always a fear element. Fear

of swift and just punishment must also be true of good law. Pain and

punishment from God brings us back to the true perception of reality; for

when we are out of fellowship, we are in a state of denial and projection.

We have no perception of the tragedy of our position, and therefore, God has

to discipline us to wake us up and bring us around.

(6) The concept of changing your mind is the decision to

rebound. This decision must overcome a tremendous amount of garbage

accumulated in the subconscious of the soul. When garbage in the

subconscious of the soul exceeds metabolized doctrine, we are going to

justify self, enter into denial of our flaws, and enter into projection of

our flaws on others. Garbage in the subconscious always justifies self and

never glorifies God. (How do we know we have garbage in the subconscious?

We start justifying ourself.) God disciplines us to motivate us to make a

decision to rebound. When you are out of fellowship, God can only get to

you through pain and punishment. The more you justify self, the more

miserable you become.

(7) Motivation and decision from the function of the

spiritual life is the highest form of human honor and integrity and results

in glorifying God. Motivation and decision from failure to live the

spiritual life is the lowest form of modus vivendi of the Christian. Pain

and punishment are the only way to break through that total denial of

reality.

(8) Motivation after rebound is based on spiritual values.

You have to make decisions continually to persist in the perception of

doctrine to establish those spiritual values in your soul. The believer is

the product of his own volition, not his environment, not other people who

are blamed for our own bad decisions, not unfairness, not injustice, not

discriminate, not abuse. Keep on being motivated when you fail to rebound

and keep moving.

(9) God's motivation in divine punitive action is personal

love for the erring believer. The carnal believer's motivation comes from

pain and punishment. The law of double punishment is the only way God can

get the attention of carnal believers.

g. Rev 3:20, "`Behold, I stand at the door and knock; if anyone

hears My voice and opens the door, I will enter face to face with him, and I

will dine with him, and he with Me.'"

(1) There are four metaphors mentioned in this verse. A

metaphor is defined as the application of a word or phrase to an object or a

concept it does not literally denote, in order to suggest comparison with

another object or concept. The concept here is the rebound technique. The

metaphors here are:

(a) The warning discipline metaphor--knocking on the

door.

(b) The rebound metaphor is divided into two metaphors-

-the motivation metaphor (listening) and the decision metaphor (opening the

door).

(c) The restoration metaphor--the Lord entering face to

face with the believer and dining with him.

(d) The momentum metaphor--the teaching ministry of the

Holy Spirit.

(2) "Behold, I stand at the door and knock" is the warning

discipline metaphor. Warning discipline is pictured as the Lord standing at

the door of the soul knocking, warning us of the dangers we have now entered

into with the destruction of our spiritual life. The believer has abandoned

his spiritual life and converted adversity into stress. This results

immediately in soul sins. The law of volitional responsibility goes into

effect immediately. We can only blame ourselves. When you name your sins

to God, you are taking responsibility for your own bad decisions and stop

blaming others. As we remain out of fellowship, our spiritual values are

being destroyed and we go from warning discipline to intensive discipline to

dying discipline. No matter how badly we fail, our Lord stands by waiting

for us to recover through the use of rebound.

(3) "If anyone hears My voice" is the motivation metaphor.

(a) The Lord Jesus Christ is the one speaking here, not

the Holy Spirit. There is a false interpretation that this verse is talking

about the Holy Spirit convicting of sin. There is a false concept of the

Holy Spirit convicting of sin. The Holy Spirit only convicts the unbeliever

of sin; He teaches the believer Bible doctrine. Jn 16:8-9 deals with the

unbeliever, not the believer. "When He [Holy Spirit] comes, He will

convince the world [of unbelievers] concerning sin. Concerning sin because

they do not believe in Me [Christ]." The Greek verb EKLEGO does not even

mean to convict; it means to bring to light, to expose, to convince someone

of something. The Holy Spirit convinces the unbeliever of the sin of

rejecting Christ. Christ was judged for the sins of everyone but could not

die spiritually for rejection by the unbeliever.

(b) This phrase refers to the reversionistic believer

being motivated by divine discipline to rebound. The carnal believer can

also be motivated by grace orientation to rebound, if he keeps short

accounts with God. The believer has the option to rebound and be restored

to fellowship or he has the option to ignore warning discipline and move up

to intensified discipline. Even under dying discipline the believer can

still rebound, receive forgiveness of sins, be restored to fellowship and be

filled with the Holy Spirit.

(c) Divine discipline results in fear of the Lord, Prov

9:10, "The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom; And the knowledge of

the Holy One is understanding." Prov 15:33, "The fear of the Lord is

instruction for wisdom; and before honor comes humility." The Hebrew word

JARE means awe, respect. You are influenced by the authority and power of

that person. Sometimes you must have respect for the punishment from God to

get you back to rebound. No one in arrogance ever executes the protocol

plan of God. There is nothing more arrogant than a believer with maximum

garbage in the soul which they deny. Believers out of fellowship who have

guilt and feel sorry for themselves are arrogant. Jam 4:6; 1 Pet 4:5, "God

makes war against the arrogant believer." How does He do it? With pain

(self-induced misery through the law of volitional responsibility) and

punishment (divine discipline through the law of divine punitive action).

(4) "And he opens the door" is the decision metaphor of

rebound. God does not require you to apologize for your sins. He does not

want you to feel guilty about your sins. He wants you to admit your sins

and start over. When you are motivated by guilt, you are the weakest person

around.

(5) "I will come into him and dine with him" is a two part

metaphor of restoration. True Christian fellowship is your relationship

with the Lord Jesus Christ and not social intercourse with other Christians.

When a believer emphasizes people relationship taking precedence over God

relationship, it destroys fellowship with God. Your social life with

Christians is not Christian fellowship. Your Christian fellowship is your

spiritual life with God.

(a) Christian fellowship is never a substitute for love

for God the Father, occupation with the person of Christ, and the filling of

the Holy Spirit.

(b) You and you alone are the only one who can live

your spiritual life. You cannot function under the spiritual life of

another believer.

(c) In so called Christian fellowship, other believers

in a state of legalism may seek to superimpose their spiritual life on you

or to manipulate you through guilt. This form of spiritual bullying is

often associated with false ideas or heresies. The influence of confused,

ignorant, or fragmented believers establishes wrong priorities in the

Christian life. This often causes terrible distraction and polarization of

the sin nature's trend toward moral or immoral degeneracy.

(d) True Christian fellowship is described in 2 Cor

13:14, "The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the

fellowship of the Holy Spirit, be with all of you." Rom 8:28, "Now we know

that to those who love God, He causes all things to work together for good,

to those who are called on the basis of a predetermined plan." Phil 2:1-2,

"Therefore, if there is any encouragement in Christ, if there is any comfort

from love, if there is any fellowship with the Spirit, if there is any

inward parts and mercies (problem solving devices such as grace

orientation), bring to completion my happiness by being of the same mind,

having the same virtue-love, united in soul (you have a continual intake of

Bible doctrine metabolized and circulating in the stream of consciousness),

intent on one objective (glorification of God)." Rom 5:5; 1 Cor 2:9; 1 Jn

2:5; Jude 21; 1 Jn 5:3; Jam 1:12; 2 Thes 3:5.

(e) Wrong relationship with God results in wrong

relationship with people. Right relationship with God results in right

relationship with people. Christian fellowship is your relationship with

God. Christian fellowship will never replace postsalvation epistemological

rehabilitation. Christian fellowship is not the basis for your spiritual

growth. Fellowship with Jesus Christ is consistent with your perception,

inculcation, and metabolization of Bible doctrine.

(6) "And he with Me" is the momentum metaphor. The power to

dine with Christ after rebound comes from the filling of the Holy Spirit.

h. Rev 3:21, "`The winner, I will give to him [the honor] to sit

down with Me on My throne, just as I also was victorious and I have sat down

with My Father on His throne.'"

(1) The winner is a reference to the tactical winner in the

Church Age; hence, the believer who executes the protocol plan of God

through maximum metabolized doctrine circulating in the stream of

consciousness plus the use of the ten problem solving devices acting as an

instant reaction force to prevent the outside pressure of adversity or

prosperity becoming stress in the soul. See also the Doctrine of the

Winner.

(2) The winner will be given the eternal escrow blessing of

ruling with Christ for 1000 years.

i. Rev 3:22, "`He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit

communicates to the churches.'" The number one priority of the Church Age

believer is the subject of this verse. Bible doctrine must be the number

priority in your life. The believer is the product of his own volition, not

his environment. This is because in eternity past God the Father provided

for each believer his very own portfolio of invisible assets. This

portfolio gives every believer many options to choose God's plan rather than

the way of the world, the flesh, and the Devil. In this portfolio are the

fantastic grace assets related to your very own spiritual life. You choose

to live inside or outside of the divine dynasphere.



D. Rebound is the divine solution for the removal of guilt from the soul.

1. Rebound is the application of 1 Jn 1:9 to the sin of guilt. See

also the Doctrine of Rebound. "If we acknowledge (name, cite, admit) our

sins to God, He is faithful and right (just) with the result that He cancels

(forgive us) our sins and He purifies us out from all wrong doing (unknown

sins)."

2. The rebound solution includes the use of the filling of the Holy

Spirit, use of the faith-rest drill regarding the faithfulness of God to

forgive us, grace orientation to the use of rebound as the policy of God,

doctrinal orientation to the fact that our sins of guilt have been judged on

the Cross, a personal sense of destiny that as long as you are alive on this

earth God has a purpose for your life. These are all problem solving

devices on the FLOT line of the soul used with rebound to deal with the

problem of guilt.

3. Rebound is both grace provision for recovery from carnality and

grace function for restoration of fellowship with God and recovery of the

filling of the Holy Spirit. There is no emphasis on how we feel or

promising God we will do better stated or implied in 1 Jn 1:9. God never

compromises His perfect integrity when He forgives us for naming our sins to

Him.

4. The procedure for use of the rebound is important.

a. You must first recognize the problem of post-salvation

sinning, specifically the sin of guilt.

b. You must utilize the rebound solution as a problem solving

device stationed on the FLOT line of the soul to protect adversity from

being converted into stress inside the soul.

c. You must emphasis God's priority. God's priority is God

emphasis over people emphasis. God's priority demands the use of the final

four problem solving devices in place in the soul: personal love for God the

Father, impersonal love for all mankind, sharing the perfect happiness of

God, and occupation with Christ.

5. Without rebound as the protection of the soul, the believer becomes

a slave to the emotional complex of sins, especially guilt.

a. Guilt becomes a motivator of life rather than metabolized

doctrine circulating in the stream of consciousness. False motivation from

guilt supercedes true motivation from doctrine, which doctrine makes up the

rank and file soldiers of each battalion (problem solving device) on the

FLOT line of the soul.

b. Emotional sins such as guilt mean sin nature control of the

soul or stress in the soul.

c. Guilt causes the believer to be manipulated by legalism and

controlled by self-righteous arrogance. Guilt causes people emphasis over

God emphasis, so that the weak control the strong. Guilt eliminates grace

orientation from the FLOT line of the soul. Perpetuated guilt destroys the

benefits from divine discipline.

d. We enter into the most awful system of slavery when we are

manipulated by guilt. Guilt is simply someone else reaching the garbage in

our soul and manipulating us to suit themselves.




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