Is the homosexualist persecution of Christians who live by the Gospel real or imagined?

Question

http://www.crisismagazine.com/2013/gay-persecution-of-christians-the-latest-evidence

Answer 1

Real. Just read the answers here to see how people justify persecuting others on the assumption that they have been persecuted in the past and therefore the Christians deserve what is coming to them.

Answer 2

Well in my opinion if gays are doing this, it the work of some others who have started this. It sounds like when communism first started, they would use crowds to agitate and heckle the government or ordinary people, so that the latter would feel threatened, and it always worked..



If gays are persecuting Christians then they are joining the ranks of those who will follow the muslim guy coming from iran who will rule the whole world, but if they imagine that their efforts will be rewarded...beware of playing with fire, because then they will be persecuted in turn by those who live by sharia law.. and I hear that these days gays who live in muslim countries have an unpleasant end....so you can lead a horse to water but if it doesn't want to drink then there is nothing you can do.



Similarily, you can warn the gay community of what is coming and they will serve their purposes, of those who are using them, then will likely be disposed of...so if this happening now with them versus Christians, they are being used for a purpose..and they will serve a double purpose. To use and be used.

.The oldest trick in the book, when someone doesn't want to be seen to be doing the stirring you get a group who could have unresolved issues( for them ) with another group However, the wise ones using common sense. will not get involved, but will wait out, this present trouble.

Answer 3

It is real.

The principle here is that evil will always rail against good. Thus, the values, morals and standards of good Christians will always cause a twinge of conscience or guilt in the minds of the homosexual crowd because they know that their behavior does not live up to the prevailing standards of Christianity. They have some choices for dealing with this discrepancy; they can deny that the standards even exist, thus removing the cause of the guilt; they can mock those standards and claim they are invalid, thus removing the cause of the guilt; or they can change their behavior to conform with the standards, thus removing the guilt.

In any event, the railing against the truth, kicking against the pricks as the scriptures call it, does exist, whether in a greater or lesser degree.

Answer 4

I don't know that it's necessarily persecution, but I do know that a very small group has a very loud voice that society listens to and gives credence and power to. That Christians are beginning to be seen as members of a hate group is disconcerting, when nothing could actually be further from the truth. This opens the door to us being persecuted by the government itself and not just one group.

Answer 5

It's real. Homosexuals do not have any money so they are trying to persecute Christians in order to take their money. Homosexuals live off of government grants and taxpayer's money. Their businesses have a high rate of failure because they are too few in number to be self-sufficient. They have not had their own country for thousands of years. They have too many health problems to be good soldiers.

Answer 6

I think it is 96% imaginary.



When the debate was at its fiercest in the UK a lot of people claimed that they were being forced to regard as marriage something that was not marriage. Some even backed up their case with a bogus quote from the UN declaration of Human Rights. It only took me 10 minutes to discover that the quote was bogus - and then I Googled it and discovered that the false quote had been copied over and over by people who claimed that allowing gay people to get married was against their human rights. Many are still complaining.



I had a quick look at that article. The way that the mob turn on people who are stuck in the past is ugly - but is any of that any where near as bad as the persecution of gays? Just a few decades ago in many "civilised" countries they faced imprisonment.and the police often ignored violent criminal attacks on them. That is still happening in Russia and many other countries.



Check out the film "God Loves Uganda". I have not yet seen it, because it has not been released in the UK yet, but from all I hear, it has a powerful message.

Answer 7

oh it is reall allright, that is part of the gay agenda. just trying to change the meaning of marriage is a sort of persecution, as marriage is something sacred instituted by G0d between a man and a woman. and to say it is equality, it is far from it, as the unions of gay people are not blessed in the eyes of the Lord, but known as an abomination.

Answer 8

They are real, because what is held in the imagination is as real as anything else, to the one who holds the idea of persecution.

Answer 9

I'm not sure I would call that persecution (after all, all they would have to have done is to make a cake without judging people), but it does seem to be going too far, to me.

Answer 10

The homosexual agenda will be the spearhead issue that drives Christianity underground in the near future. They will tyrannize any and all who do not agree with their radical agenda, forcing them to accept them or else be charged with some sort of discrimination or hate crime. Gay tyranny will know no bounds. Mark my words.

Answer 11

not only Christians, but many believers have to endure much ridicule.

just watch and see the answers here on R&S. even this is the category about spirituality.



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Answer 12

Loosing the right to persecute others is often interpreted as persecution! Goes right back to the puritans!

Answer 13

When you offer a service to the public it must be offered equally. What if your religion thought mixed race marriages were sinful? Should you be allowed to refuse service? What if your religion is racist (there are some out there)? Should you be allowed to deny service to the race that is considered lesser than yours?



Sorry, this is not persecution. It is a business and equal access issue. Were segregated clubs and businesses being persecuted when people protested and boycotted? The situation is exactly the same.

Answer 14

Imagined. The bakers had a legal responsibility to serve their clients. That they did not choose to serve a lesbian couple means that the homosphobes were persecuting the innocents.

Answer 15

Bigots always see the backlash from their bigoted actions as persecution.



It works pretty well if you completely Ignore the fact that it was your bigotry that caused the response in the first place.

Answer 16

Wait - so now fighting back against discrimination is persecution????



Sorry, Christians don't get to treat others like dirt and then complain about being persecuted if their victims object.

Answer 17

Homosexuals cannot live by the Bible since they are living in their sin and need to get out of it.

Answer 18

Christians are weak and faulty individuals.



Generally, when a group makes up 78% of the population as christians do, they do not worry about persecution. Certainly not when a clear majority of the group persecuting them are actually christians.



However, we must recognize the nature of christians. They are flock animals, easily spooked and fearful. When presented with a challenge they mill around aimlessly and bleat for help.

Answer 19

Yeah, Christians are the victims here. If anyone believes that I've got a suitcase full of Rolexes. You can have any 4 for $35.

Answer 20

It's imagined. Very often privileged groups imagine that they are being harmed when those they have oppressed and attacked gain equality with them. It's very similar to the white males who are crying a river now that their white privilege is being chipped away and groups they have walked all over are gaining equal footing.

Answer 21

Sir,



Truth.

Answer 22

Homosexuality is a kind of gift from God through which God wants to tell mankind that guys are not supposed to kill other guys all the time. That there is already enough hatred in the world because of false religions.

Also you can convert to sensible religions and your hatred of homosexuality will be gone. LGBT people are going to hell according to Christian and Islamic myths. It is not universal truth.



@lilly of the valley:- It is not gays who are stamping out Christianity. It is rise in general level of thinking which is posing great threat to its survival. That is one reason why Islam and Christianity focus more on ignorance than on knowledge.

Answer 23

Imagined.



If you are beating people over the head with a stick and I take away your stick, it is true that I am limiting your actions and you might complain, but they are actions you had no right to be taking in the first place.



It's just Christian privilege rearing its whiny head.

Answer 24

Great idea

Let's live by the Gospel and kill all of the adulterers

Answer 25

What utter horseshit. Saying gays are persecuting Christians is like saying blacks are persecuting the KKK.

Answer 26

Imagined.



Just like God.

Answer 27

Christians promote the idea that they are "persecuted".

It gives them reason to hate.

Without hate christianity could not survive.

They do the persecuting, then project.

Very good at projection are christians.

Answer 28

Zionist Judeo Marxists are behind the gays





Zionists are using gays as a tool to stamp out Christianity



http://truedemocracyparty.net/2012/11/waters-flowing-eastward-judeo-communism-in-america-this-is-their-plan-and-its-working-from-russia-with-love/